Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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I think he's talking more about how some of the more single minded Melee defenders will latch onto this and complain to him...Though not really a "Brave" act on Bill's part to say this, it still may incite some heat his way.

But he has also made a special exception for Melee fans it seems... Unless I am mistaken there as, truth be told, it's kinda unclear.
 
Because Jigglypuff is more likely to be secret character again, unless he got cut for this game since Jigglypuff is more likely to be bottom of priority list.

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I think he's talking more about how some of the more single minded Melee defenders will latch onto this and complain to him...Though not really a "Brave" act on Bill's part to say this, it still may incite some heat his way.

I think any heat it might incite is negligible.

Now, I barely use twitter, but is there really that many people that will care about what Bill has to say and argue with him in 140 character posts?

I mean, if it was some random forum post on smash boards that wasn't well thought out and inflammatory or something, you'd have people arguing about it sure, but it's just someone saying very little on twitter.
 
I think any heat it might incite is negligible.

Now, I barely use twitter, but is there really that many people that will care about what Bill has to say and argue with him in 140 character posts?

I mean, if it was some random forum post that wasn't well thought out or anything, you'd have people arguing about it sure, but it's just someone saying very little on twitter.

I could direct you to Kamiya's twitter...

I don't think he'd get into a twitter argument, just saying it'd generate some whining when it's really a benign post.
 

The lowesit priorty I'd give her is 12.

Heath Pls.

What What What? Jigglypuff was at bottom list for priority in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. From top of my head, Jigglypuff, Wolf, Toon Link and Sonic were last 4 characters being added to the Brawl. Mewtwo and Roy (maybe) got cut due to Sonic's last minutes inclusion.

You know that I love my jiggly and I would like to see him back as well.
 
Just wanna say how much I loved the music on those routes. I hope it gets redone in Smasj 4!

Best route in the entire series. I try to use Castform in every RSE runthrough because of it.

What What What? Jigglypuff was at bottom list for priority in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. From top of my head, Jigglypuff, Wolf, Toon Link and Sonic were last 4 characters being added to the Brawl. Mewtwo and Roy (maybe) got cut due to Sonic's last minutes inclusion.

You know that I love my jiggly and I would like to see her back as well.

Is there any evidence, outside of them not having a role in the SSE, to support Jiggles, Wolf, and Toon Link being finished last? Considering who all he was gonna include, and how many cutscenes that likely wouldn't have featured the cut characters didn't even get finished, I don't think he intended for every character to make an appearance during the main story of the SSE.
 
So, let's say Sakurai approached you and said you could put ONE alt costume into the game. What would it be?

(The alt costume can be a full model swap, as long as it doesn't affect hitboxes, and could be a different character as long as it makes sense)


I'd want MulletDorf.

Let me tell you what I want ok

There are few options for this one, but they will never happen

So you know how namco is developing this and Capcom has a guy in right? This is what I would like, I know it woudn't happen, but I cant help myself from wanting it.

So the Number 1 thing I want is this

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Steve fox alt , there is a version where the shirt is completly unbuttoned,do that one. Slock back his hair, just steve fox.


So if that didn't work out, Then balrog alts

Any alt costume could work for mac from SF4, but this one I think would fit the most is his first alt, where is just... American Champ.
 
Best route in the entire series. I try to use Castform in every RSE runthrough because of it.



Is there any evidence, outside of them not having a role in the SSE, to support Jiggles, Wolf, and Toon Link being finished last? Considering who all he was gonna include, and how many cutscenes that likely wouldn't have featured the cut characters didn't even get finished, I don't think he intended for every character to make an appearance during the main story of the SSE.

I think I heard in an interview once that dorf was a last minute inclusion and didn't have time to balance him. Not sure of the validity of that because of his place in SSE and my awful memory
 
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Pic of the day. Reshiram appears on one of the stages in the 3DS version! Zekrom and Milotic will appear, too. It's close enough to the launch date, so I don't have to describe this stage to you, right? The design of this stage is based off of the surroundings of someone's castle.
Wow, I had lost hope for N's Castle. Pretty good. Milotic seems irrelevant though.
 
I think I heard in an interview once that dorf was a last minute inclusion and didn't have time to balance him. Not sure of the validity of that because of his place in SSE and my awful memory

That'd surprise me, his role is pretty important to the SSE plus his moves are much more changed than they were in Melee.
I do remember reading he was the last added character in Melee, added almost solely because he was popular and his frame matched Captain Falcon's.
 
Let me tell you what I want ok

There are few options for this one, but they will never happen

So you know how namco is developing this and Capcom has a guy in right? This is what I would like, I know it woudn't happen, but I cant help myself from wanting it.

So the Number 1 thing I want is this

aLsMwHD.png


Steve fox alt , there is a version where the shirt is completly unbuttoned,do that one. Slock back his hair, just steve fox.


So if that didn't work out, Then balrog alts

Any alt costume could work for mac from SF4, but this one I think would fit the most is his first alt, where is just... American Champ.

As much as I dislike Steve Fox...I'd so be down for this.
 
So, let's say Sakurai approached you and said you could put ONE alt costume into the game. What would it be?

(The alt costume can be a full model swap, as long as it doesn't affect hitboxes, and could be a different character as long as it makes sense)


I'd want MulletDorf.

shirtless wolf
 
WHoah whoah,

You are now on trial, why you got beef with steve. He aint do nuthin, all he did was be brittish and a cool guy.

Now now...I didn't say I hate him. I just dislike him and his fussy little kicks. I don't like how he feels, but I play Baek and Dragonov. S'all good.
 
Black and whie 1 male design is terrible, he looks more a generic npc then a player character

Still leagues better than X and Y's character design. And I don't really care for DPPt's.
RB=GS=RSE>FRLG>B2W2>BW>DPPt>XY>HGSS>ORAS in terms of Male character design. Roughly the same for females, though I'd probably swap BW and B2W2, and Platinum and HGSS would be higher.
 
Still leagues better than X and Y's character design. And I don't really care for DPPt's.
RB=GS=RSE>FRLG>B2W2>BW>DPPt>XY>HGSS>ORAS in terms of Male character design. Roughly the same for females, though I'd probably swap BW and B2W2, and Platinum and HGSS would be higher.

In X/Y you make your own character, sounds like you just messed up :P
 
So, let's say Sakurai approached you and said you could put ONE alt costume into the game. What would it be?

(The alt costume can be a full model swap, as long as it doesn't affect hitboxes, and could be a different character as long as it makes sense)


I'd want MulletDorf.
Roll as a Mega Man alt would be cool.
 
Now now...I didn't say I hate him. I just dislike him and his fussy little kicks. I don't like how he feels, but I play Baek and Dragonov. S'all good.

You wanted some peeps with a bit more mobility and foot capability than a boxer, understandable.

I like steve and play him. Though Imma Kazuya dude through and though, and Muigel now because he is also a cool guy and plays wonderful. Muigel just work. I used to use Hworang and Baek a while back. Never used dragonov .
 
You wanted some peeps with a bit more mobility and foot capability than a boxer, understandable.

I like steve and play him. Though Imma Kazuya dude through and though, and Muigel now because he is also a cool guy and plays wonderful. Muigel just work. I used to use Hworang and Baek a while back. Never used dragonov .

Dragunov feels weird at first, but I also just love his character...he's that dark looking evil guy that in every cutscene he's in is comedy: For Example
 
I could show you peeps my XY trainer and there ain't gonna be none of that worst character design business 'cause I've got style for days
so says the boutique lady
 
So I think someone did this once before quite awhile ago, but I was bored tonight with little to do, so I decided to count up a tally of how many times each character has been featured in a pic of the day. It's just for fun and obviously things are skewed by when and in what order characters have been revealed, but hey, why not?

A couple notes:
- There are a couple of screens where only Pikmin appear or only Rush appears, but I counted these as appearances for Olimar and Mega Man respectively since they're integral part of their movesets and mean those characters are actually in the shots.
- In shots where two instances of the same character appear (i.e. female and male Wii Fit Trainer or two different colors of the same character), I counted them as two separate instances of that character.
- In shots that are divided into separate parts (like Little Mac's side smash explanation or Pac-Man's taunt), I only counted that as one instance of the character.
- In series of screenshots showing the same match (like the explanation of the 3D Land stage), I counted each screenshot (and instance of the character) separately.
- I lumped the three different kinds of Mii Fighters together because it's sometimes hard to tell what type a Mii Fighter is supposed to be at just a glance.
- There was one instance where I could not tell who a character was (the right-most character in the first 3DS Golden Plains shot). I have my guesses, but I did not count this character since I wasn't sure.
- This only includes the pics of the day, and not any of the screens from the various press packs or screenshot collections released by Nintendo.
- I don't 100% guarantee the accuracy of these numbers, but they should be really close if they're not perfect. I didn't care enough to go back and double-check everything. :P

So without further ado...

Mario: 52
Mega Man: 38
Villager: 35
Link: 34
Samus: 33
Wii Fit Trainer: 32
Kirby: 25
Luigi: 23
Donkey Kong: 20
Pikachu: 20
Pit: 19
Toon Link: 19
Marth: 17
Rosalina: 17
Sonic: 17
Bowser: 15
Fox: 15
Peach: 15
Little Mac: 14
Olimar: 14
Mii Fighters: 11
Zelda: 10
King Dedede: 9
Diddy Kong: 7
Pac-Man: 7
Ike: 6
Robin: 6
Lucario: 5
Yoshi: 5
Charizard: 4
Greninja: 4
Lucina: 4
Palutena: 4
Zero Suit Samus: 4
Sheik: 3
Captain Falcon: 2

I'll keep updating these numbers on my end as we get more pics of the day and do update posts once in awhile, like maybe once a month or something. Just for fun, like I said, and maybe to get some discussions going!

For me, the initial points that really stand out to me are Mario having so many more appearances than anyone else, Mega Man being in second (whoo!), Greninja having only four appearances since his reveal (that's harsh for a newcomer revealed a few months ago now), and Lucario having only five (having been revealed way back in January). Anything else stand out to you guys?
 
Dragunov feels weird at first, but I also just love his character...he's that dark looking evil guy that in every cutscene he's in is comedy: For Example

I would say the mishima's have that down, but yeah I know what you talking about. That cut scene is indeed funny.

I also Like leo, even though she is unapologetic ally just Rock Howard. Though I also like C. Viper who is Just black widow, down to name even.
 
Just noticed that in the reveal trailer of the game, the Villager has planted a ton of saplings adjacent to each other; what a scrub.
 
I would say the mishima's have that down, but yeah I know what you talking about. That cut scene is indeed funny.

I also Like leo, even though she is unapologetic ally just Rock Howard. Though I also like C. Viper who is Just black widow, down to name even.

Aye, but Heiachi Karate is Best Karate. The Mishima's need to speak, Dragunov can't speak, or at least I've never heard him speak.
 
Aye, but Heiachi Karate is Best Karate. The Mishima's need to speak, Dragunov can't speak, or at least I've never heard him speak.
Dragonoff is communicating with his alien overlords at all times. He does not have time to speak. Also kazuya karate is the best karate.
 
Wire frame is only a different colour, the hoodie is a proper alt.


That said, no to tekken alts please.

If there's going to be a character alt from a completely different franchise then the character might as well be a clone.

(Also didn't sakurai say he didn't want traditional fighting game characters in smash?)
 
Wire frame is only a different colour, the hoodie is a proper alt.


That said, no to tekken alts please.

If there's going to be a character alt from a completely different franchise then the character might as well be a clone.

I think it works here, its just clothes with tekken.

i dunno about a tekken character being little mac's alt

he kind of has enough alts as is (wireframe and hoodie)

Like other fighting games, you can just get more alts.

Also the answer yes to the steve fox alt, now you know.


Edit: also ttt2 had nintendo alts so, it would be neat for the reverse
 
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