lolez2matt
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Nope, Festigame here in Chile.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong
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Nope, Festigame here in Chile.
the hell man? use PMs next time
Exotoro
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kappa?
Samus "Bounty Hunter" title is pretty.. strange
She just works for the federation, she is more of a "freelancer" GF Soldier than a bounty hunter
Bounty Hunter is a cooler title.
PadWarrior
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Was about to post that lol
I believe a former twitch employee.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
MisterHero
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Samus is called The Hunter by the Space Pirates.Samus "Bounty Hunter" title is pretty.. strange
She just works for the federation, she is more of a "freelancer" GF Soldier than a bounty hunter
Now that I think about it, maybe in future games they can stop using Samus's name and start using "The Hunter". It sounds more mysterious!
And zroid was joking as well.
I'll take that L then.
I learned something new today lol
PadWarrior
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I mean, take a look at that character in general, she's so bland.
Her Smash 4 design does look better and makes her stand out more though.
I just finished MGS4 for the first time and this gave me a chuckle.
Always.
Beelzebufo
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It's a phonetic spelling of a Greek letter.
"K"
People sometimes just stick it at the end of posts. Like "Just Kidding"
Pop-O-Matic
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Samus "Bounty Hunter" title is pretty.. strange
She just works for the federation, she is more of a "freelancer" GF Soldier than a bounty hunter
I think it's just Japan not really knowing what certain words/titles mean. IIRC, Retro tried suggesting a game where Samus actually hunted down bounties and the like, but Nintendo told them no, saying that it wasn't the kind of thing a heroic character like Samus would do.
Hello, gentlemen, a question: days ago (I think...maybe it was yesterday, don't know though lol) I saw a fanfiction posted here where someone was doing Fire Emblem-like conversations for Smash Bros. characters. Unfortunately, I can't find it anymore...anyone kind enough to post the link again, please?
That would be an awesome concept for a metroid game actually
I can't look at these without getting sad it's ending.
It's ending? What the!? What happened? I've read through all of his comics and there is definitely room to keep going, without getting stale. It's really depressing seeing great creative talent fizzle out in around 5-6 years, compared to like 15-20 years.
This is definitely short lived considering its quality.
Baron von Loathsome
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Next time on Avatar Quote Wars: HawthorneKitty vs. Winterfang.
Continued from part 1
*NOTE MY IMPRESSIONS OF THIS GAME ARE FOR AN UNFINISHED PRODUCT. ANYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, AND HOPEFULLY TWEAKS WILL BE MADE IN TIME FOR THE GAMES LAUNCH IN SEPTEMBER. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THERE WAS SOME MESSED UP STUFF GOING ON IN THAT ROOM AND THAT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FINAL GAME *
I was going to play first on the main stage! Holy SHIT. Luckily, I dont really get nervous playing on stream. I was actually really excited. Instead of just playing some match somewhere off to the side, I was playing in front of a huge crowd, and my match was going to be recorded. Godlike. The stage Nintendo brought to the show was incredible. It had a really vibrant SMB stage 1-1 thing going, and the announcers had an NES cartridge desk. I was playing with Scar, Toph and Bill Trinen just meters away from me! GAF was going to see me play! The atmosphere was incredible, and I loved every moment of it.
Before we got on stage, the three players I'd be facing and I all agreed to choose Battlefield when we played. Unfortunately, just as we got on the stage, a Nintendo rep came to us and told us we had to use the Spirit Tracks stage. I suppose they wanted everyone to see all the different stages that the game had to offer, instead of just boring ass Battlefield. I mean, it would just be the same stage over and over. Makes sense. I guess every match on stream would show off a different stage. Right?
I realized my screen was the one on all of the monitors on the stage. That was pretty cool. Im happy you guys noticed my cursor on the character select screen rubbing Sheik. Next time, Sheik-kun.
Here's my subliminal GAF shoutout that I'm pretty sure no-one saw:
Greninja, PikAchu, Fox
Oh yaaaaas my short hop dair to up tilt into bair we in thereeeeeeeeee
Then the game started. Here's the video if you want to follow along. First thing I noticed was it was a 2 minute match. Unfortunate! The practice rounds were 4 minutes. Also, bye bye tech skill. See all of those forward airs? Those were definitely supposed to be turn around back airs. I dont know if I was inputting it wrong or what, but I was getting lots of fairs by mistake. Ugh. I started jumping around the stage throwing out bairs to make sure my fingers were capable of inputting Kirby back airs.
I got super lucky with that Skyward Sword beetle. What a broken item.
Then the Smash Ball appeared. The damn Smash Ball that I had such an easy time breaking in practice it felt like it was running away from me for dear life during this match. And just casually landing in front of my opponents and not moving. Greninja got it, but luckily I was able to dodge. It was at this point that I notice the lag in the playback video. That was no video lag, my friends. 1 minute and 10 seconds into the match, the game started chugging like a Spirit Tracks choo choo train, and it wouldnt quit for the rest of the match.
I had flashbacks to E3 2010. I was Miyamoto trying to play Skyward Sword. The game was failing on me at the biggest stage of them all! In front of the thousands in attendance and the millions watching at home! IT WAS AWFUL. There was nothing I could do about it, no matter how hard I tried. Lucky there was no player cam going, because I was physically cringing at some points during the match.
That dair in the train track. Lol. Bodied.
Notice Zelda touching the track at the right side of the screen soon after? BODIED. That train is moving so fast, even a F-Zero race car would be jealous.
Then I got the kill with the baseball bat. I dont think Ive ever connected with the actual smash attack of the home run bat in years, but Ive become a master of throwing it at my opponents. That shit kills so early.
At this point, I actually thought I was in the lead. With less than 30 seconds left on the clock, I retreated to the left side of the screen.
Then the smash ball appears, and Im on that things ASS. Its still running away from me, I miss with my aerials, and on top of that, the lag kicks in! Wonderful. Missed inputs like crazy. Up airs instead of bairs. Whatever. No johns. The ball gets smashed but it is not used, the game ends.
I thought I won, but I didnt. Looking back through the video, lets take a look at the kills:
Kirby kills Greninja with Beetle. Kirby +1, Greninja -1 (Kirby 1, Greninja -1, Toon Link 0, Zelda 0)
Greninja kills Zelda with Final Smash. Greninja +1, Zelda -1 (Kirby 1, Greninja 0, Toon Link 0, Zelda -1)
Toon Link kills Kirby with down air. Toon Link +1, Kirby -1 (Kirby 0, Greninja 0, Toon Link 1, Zelda -1)
Zelda kills herself. Zelda -1 (Kirby 0, Greninja 0, Toon Link 1, Zelda -2)
Kirby kills Toon Link with home run bat. Kirby +1, Toon Link -1 (Kirby 1, Greninja 0, Toon Link 0, Zelda -2)
Did I miss something? I dont usually play timed matches, so Im not sure how exactly the points system works, but I was counting stocks during the match, and I was so sure I won =(
Even if that Zelda suicide counted as a Greninja kill, wouldn't we be tied and go to sudden death?
If someone can point out where I miscalculated Id appreciate that.
Whatever.
I wasnt really that mad. I didnt feel like I was robbed of victory or anything. It was a free for all match, with items on, and some pretty terrible lag. ANYTHING can happen in a match like that. Anyone can win. Oh well.
I went to spectate some other matches. First, I watched the main stage matches from the crowd. The game looked, to be blunt, awful. Unless the monitors themselves were lagging (pretty sure they werent because they looked flawless when Smash U was displayed), the game was lagging appallingly bad. This was Miyamoto at E3 2010 embarrassing. This was Brawl wifi bad. I couldnt help but squirm looking at the players trying to play through it all. Im talking 1 second freezes. Im surprised the 3DS didnt explode at some point. They also had to keep playing on Spirit Tracks? Thats crazy to me. I feel like that stage could have been the cause of the lag, too. After two matches, I couldnt take watching the stage anymore. From what I could tell, the other setups at the back of the room (not the main stage) werent lagging that bad. It was about as bad as when I was playing my FFA match earlier in the day. Lag here and there, but nothing game breaking.
I heard Westballz name called and decided to go watch that game. It drew quite the crowd.
Westballz chose Bowser. I actually hadnt seen him used in the tournament up to that point. Then, the match started, and something truly special happened. Only a few people were lucky enough to witness HISTORY.
I think Wes thought he was playing Melee Falco, because Ive never seen so many down bs in my life. Wes proceeded to play the entire 2 minute match using NOTHING but Bowsers down b. AND IT WORKED. He was racking up kills like a mad man. Breaking shields all over the place. The other three players didnt know what to do. The crowd started a stack it up chant. People were yelling THAT AINT FALCO. It was unreal. That down B is SO STRONG. I dont think players had quite gotten adjusted to the intricacies of the 3DS controls, and the concept of shield grabbing and maneuverability in general. When a huge mother fucker like Bowser just bombs you like that, in a free for all with items on, its a little hard to react so quickly.
Wes got TEN KILLS in that game, and won easily. At that point, I started to wonder if Kirby was the right choice in a free for all. He was a light, pink puffball, after all. And Wes just DOMINATED a match with Bowser, easily. I was in losers anyways, so I said fuck it, and decided to pick a top tier and try Bowser.
Since the 3DS setups were being used by the tournament, I decided to go play some Smash U. They actually brought the Gamecube controllers! It felt AMAZING to play Smash with that controller after having to use the 3DS and its puny circle pad.
I looked to my left and there was Hugs! Samus main in Melee and infamous user of Megaman at the E3 Smash 4 Invitational. He was actually using Samus in our free for all match. I used Bowser and I won. I down bd like a mad man, and got plenty of kills. It almost felt like the move didnt get stale, because I was consistently killing at 75%ish. After the game, I stepped back and started to talk to Hugs. I told him about Westballz match and his success with Bowser and his down b. So thats why you were spamming that move? he asked, laughing. He asked if Wes actually made it out of first round with that strategy, and I told him that he seriously destroyed in his match. I asked him how his first match went.
He lost in the first round.
Well that made me feel better! Then he told me Larry (DEHF) lost in the first round too. WOW. Larrys Bowser lost to Luckys Bowser. At that point my jaw dropped. Are you telling me
all the top Melee players are using Bowser? Are you kidding me?
I knew for sure I was going to use Bowser in my losers match. TOP TIER SON.
It was at this point that I was called back to the stage. For some reason, Bill Trinen was playing SMB: Lost Levels on the stream setup. Weird.
Then, I noticed 4 dudes with Nintendo shirts SCRAMBLING on the ground behind the stage. Obviously, the lag had gotten to a point where they needed to get in there and try to fix it. I must have watched these guys reset the debug 3DS', load up the Smash 3DS demo and play a round on Spirit Tracks 10 times. 45 minutes went by, and I hadnt played my match. After all that time, they Nintendo reps were unsuccessful in fixing the problem. The game wouldnt stop lagging on stage, so they got some HDMI cables and started to hook up the stream to the group 3 setups right beside the main stage.
Im not sure if my game was streamed (I think Bill was playing Smash U with Toph and Scar at the time?), but I went Bowser. We still had to play the Spirit Tracks stage. I was determined to use the Westballz strategy: down b on fools all day.
AND IT WORKED.
People were getting hit by that shit non stop and dying at 70%. Again, I feel like the unfamiliar controls of the 3DS were throwing people off, because the move is obviously punishable. Ridiculously punishable. I know I had problems with rolling/sidestepping/shielding/air dodging, and it seems like others did too, because I was hitting that bowser bomb like a beast. I got 4 kills that game!
but SDd twice =( =( =( That train moves EXTREMELY fast. Faster than F-Zero racers on Big Blue it seems, because as soon as I touched that train track, I was GONE. I got 4 kills, which was the most in the game, but lost due to those suicides.
My tournament life was over, but not my impressions! Stay tuned for my overall thoughts on the tournament, the 1v1 matches, Bowser, and impressions of specific characters and game mechanics.
By the way, I totally would have went Sheik if I reached the 1v1 rounds
*PART 3 COMING SOON*
*NOTE MY IMPRESSIONS OF THIS GAME ARE FOR AN UNFINISHED PRODUCT. ANYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, AND HOPEFULLY TWEAKS WILL BE MADE IN TIME FOR THE GAMES LAUNCH IN SEPTEMBER. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THERE WAS SOME MESSED UP STUFF GOING ON IN THAT ROOM AND THAT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FINAL GAME *
I was going to play first on the main stage! Holy SHIT. Luckily, I dont really get nervous playing on stream. I was actually really excited. Instead of just playing some match somewhere off to the side, I was playing in front of a huge crowd, and my match was going to be recorded. Godlike. The stage Nintendo brought to the show was incredible. It had a really vibrant SMB stage 1-1 thing going, and the announcers had an NES cartridge desk. I was playing with Scar, Toph and Bill Trinen just meters away from me! GAF was going to see me play! The atmosphere was incredible, and I loved every moment of it.
Before we got on stage, the three players I'd be facing and I all agreed to choose Battlefield when we played. Unfortunately, just as we got on the stage, a Nintendo rep came to us and told us we had to use the Spirit Tracks stage. I suppose they wanted everyone to see all the different stages that the game had to offer, instead of just boring ass Battlefield. I mean, it would just be the same stage over and over. Makes sense. I guess every match on stream would show off a different stage. Right?
I realized my screen was the one on all of the monitors on the stage. That was pretty cool. Im happy you guys noticed my cursor on the character select screen rubbing Sheik. Next time, Sheik-kun.
Here's my subliminal GAF shoutout that I'm pretty sure no-one saw:
Greninja, PikAchu, Fox
I tried >_<
Oh yaaaaas my short hop dair to up tilt into bair we in thereeeeeeeeee
Then the game started. Here's the video if you want to follow along. First thing I noticed was it was a 2 minute match. Unfortunate! The practice rounds were 4 minutes. Also, bye bye tech skill. See all of those forward airs? Those were definitely supposed to be turn around back airs. I dont know if I was inputting it wrong or what, but I was getting lots of fairs by mistake. Ugh. I started jumping around the stage throwing out bairs to make sure my fingers were capable of inputting Kirby back airs.
I got super lucky with that Skyward Sword beetle. What a broken item.
Then the Smash Ball appeared. The damn Smash Ball that I had such an easy time breaking in practice it felt like it was running away from me for dear life during this match. And just casually landing in front of my opponents and not moving. Greninja got it, but luckily I was able to dodge. It was at this point that I notice the lag in the playback video. That was no video lag, my friends. 1 minute and 10 seconds into the match, the game started chugging like a Spirit Tracks choo choo train, and it wouldnt quit for the rest of the match.
I had flashbacks to E3 2010. I was Miyamoto trying to play Skyward Sword. The game was failing on me at the biggest stage of them all! In front of the thousands in attendance and the millions watching at home! IT WAS AWFUL. There was nothing I could do about it, no matter how hard I tried. Lucky there was no player cam going, because I was physically cringing at some points during the match.
That dair in the train track. Lol. Bodied.
Notice Zelda touching the track at the right side of the screen soon after? BODIED. That train is moving so fast, even a F-Zero race car would be jealous.
Then I got the kill with the baseball bat. I dont think Ive ever connected with the actual smash attack of the home run bat in years, but Ive become a master of throwing it at my opponents. That shit kills so early.
At this point, I actually thought I was in the lead. With less than 30 seconds left on the clock, I retreated to the left side of the screen.
Then the smash ball appears, and Im on that things ASS. Its still running away from me, I miss with my aerials, and on top of that, the lag kicks in! Wonderful. Missed inputs like crazy. Up airs instead of bairs. Whatever. No johns. The ball gets smashed but it is not used, the game ends.
I thought I won, but I didnt. Looking back through the video, lets take a look at the kills:
Kirby kills Greninja with Beetle. Kirby +1, Greninja -1 (Kirby 1, Greninja -1, Toon Link 0, Zelda 0)
Greninja kills Zelda with Final Smash. Greninja +1, Zelda -1 (Kirby 1, Greninja 0, Toon Link 0, Zelda -1)
Toon Link kills Kirby with down air. Toon Link +1, Kirby -1 (Kirby 0, Greninja 0, Toon Link 1, Zelda -1)
Zelda kills herself. Zelda -1 (Kirby 0, Greninja 0, Toon Link 1, Zelda -2)
Kirby kills Toon Link with home run bat. Kirby +1, Toon Link -1 (Kirby 1, Greninja 0, Toon Link 0, Zelda -2)
Did I miss something? I dont usually play timed matches, so Im not sure how exactly the points system works, but I was counting stocks during the match, and I was so sure I won =(
Even if that Zelda suicide counted as a Greninja kill, wouldn't we be tied and go to sudden death?
If someone can point out where I miscalculated Id appreciate that.
Whatever.
I wasnt really that mad. I didnt feel like I was robbed of victory or anything. It was a free for all match, with items on, and some pretty terrible lag. ANYTHING can happen in a match like that. Anyone can win. Oh well.
I went to spectate some other matches. First, I watched the main stage matches from the crowd. The game looked, to be blunt, awful. Unless the monitors themselves were lagging (pretty sure they werent because they looked flawless when Smash U was displayed), the game was lagging appallingly bad. This was Miyamoto at E3 2010 embarrassing. This was Brawl wifi bad. I couldnt help but squirm looking at the players trying to play through it all. Im talking 1 second freezes. Im surprised the 3DS didnt explode at some point. They also had to keep playing on Spirit Tracks? Thats crazy to me. I feel like that stage could have been the cause of the lag, too. After two matches, I couldnt take watching the stage anymore. From what I could tell, the other setups at the back of the room (not the main stage) werent lagging that bad. It was about as bad as when I was playing my FFA match earlier in the day. Lag here and there, but nothing game breaking.
I heard Westballz name called and decided to go watch that game. It drew quite the crowd.
Westballz chose Bowser. I actually hadnt seen him used in the tournament up to that point. Then, the match started, and something truly special happened. Only a few people were lucky enough to witness HISTORY.
I think Wes thought he was playing Melee Falco, because Ive never seen so many down bs in my life. Wes proceeded to play the entire 2 minute match using NOTHING but Bowsers down b. AND IT WORKED. He was racking up kills like a mad man. Breaking shields all over the place. The other three players didnt know what to do. The crowd started a stack it up chant. People were yelling THAT AINT FALCO. It was unreal. That down B is SO STRONG. I dont think players had quite gotten adjusted to the intricacies of the 3DS controls, and the concept of shield grabbing and maneuverability in general. When a huge mother fucker like Bowser just bombs you like that, in a free for all with items on, its a little hard to react so quickly.
Wes got TEN KILLS in that game, and won easily. At that point, I started to wonder if Kirby was the right choice in a free for all. He was a light, pink puffball, after all. And Wes just DOMINATED a match with Bowser, easily. I was in losers anyways, so I said fuck it, and decided to pick a top tier and try Bowser.
Since the 3DS setups were being used by the tournament, I decided to go play some Smash U. They actually brought the Gamecube controllers! It felt AMAZING to play Smash with that controller after having to use the 3DS and its puny circle pad.
I looked to my left and there was Hugs! Samus main in Melee and infamous user of Megaman at the E3 Smash 4 Invitational. He was actually using Samus in our free for all match. I used Bowser and I won. I down bd like a mad man, and got plenty of kills. It almost felt like the move didnt get stale, because I was consistently killing at 75%ish. After the game, I stepped back and started to talk to Hugs. I told him about Westballz match and his success with Bowser and his down b. So thats why you were spamming that move? he asked, laughing. He asked if Wes actually made it out of first round with that strategy, and I told him that he seriously destroyed in his match. I asked him how his first match went.
He lost in the first round.
Well that made me feel better! Then he told me Larry (DEHF) lost in the first round too. WOW. Larrys Bowser lost to Luckys Bowser. At that point my jaw dropped. Are you telling me
all the good players lost in the first round, myself included
I knew for sure I was going to use Bowser in my losers match. TOP TIER SON.
It was at this point that I was called back to the stage. For some reason, Bill Trinen was playing SMB: Lost Levels on the stream setup. Weird.
Then, I noticed 4 dudes with Nintendo shirts SCRAMBLING on the ground behind the stage. Obviously, the lag had gotten to a point where they needed to get in there and try to fix it. I must have watched these guys reset the debug 3DS', load up the Smash 3DS demo and play a round on Spirit Tracks 10 times. 45 minutes went by, and I hadnt played my match. After all that time, they Nintendo reps were unsuccessful in fixing the problem. The game wouldnt stop lagging on stage, so they got some HDMI cables and started to hook up the stream to the group 3 setups right beside the main stage.
Im not sure if my game was streamed (I think Bill was playing Smash U with Toph and Scar at the time?), but I went Bowser. We still had to play the Spirit Tracks stage. I was determined to use the Westballz strategy: down b on fools all day.
AND IT WORKED.
People were getting hit by that shit non stop and dying at 70%. Again, I feel like the unfamiliar controls of the 3DS were throwing people off, because the move is obviously punishable. Ridiculously punishable. I know I had problems with rolling/sidestepping/shielding/air dodging, and it seems like others did too, because I was hitting that bowser bomb like a beast. I got 4 kills that game!
but SDd twice =( =( =( That train moves EXTREMELY fast. Faster than F-Zero racers on Big Blue it seems, because as soon as I touched that train track, I was GONE. I got 4 kills, which was the most in the game, but lost due to those suicides.
My tournament life was over, but not my impressions! Stay tuned for my overall thoughts on the tournament, the 1v1 matches, Bowser, and impressions of specific characters and game mechanics.
By the way, I totally would have went Sheik if I reached the 1v1 rounds
*PART 3 COMING SOON*
Mr. Smiley
Member
D'aww. That's kinda cute.
Great stuff again! Thanks!
PadWarrior
Member
Rofl!!
GregLombardi
Member
Thanks for the impressions!
He said it because he was joking, quod erat demonstrandum
Thanos was a gaf joke over the weekend.
Exotoro
Member
doesn't he know that thanos is already in the game?
PadWarrior
Member
I want this alt so bad
Oh, I'm aware of loopy's work(
All the time you put into typing up these impressions certainly shows, I'm looking forward to the next part.
By the way, is anyone else planning on getting the Japanese release of Smash for 3DS? I just got my Japanese system in the mail recently, and I was wondering how many others on SmashGAF were picking up the game in September.
Also, is there going to be another 3DS Community doc for the Japanese Release, or should I add my 2nd 3DS's Friend Code to list as well?
I want this alt so bad
Speaking of that power up, it's still strikes me as odd that flying mario/luigi weren't in galaxy 2 tho hacks shows it was still in. and useable. It was rather fun to use to fly around the observatory
.IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Anthony, good writing as usual! 
PadWarrior
Member
I still need to play the 2nd oneSpeaking of that power up, it's still strikes me as odd that flying mario/luigi weren't in galaxy 2 tho hacks shows it was still in. and useable. It was rather fun to use to fly around the observatory
I still need to play the 2nd one
What?! Fix this as soon as possible. Galaxy 2 is such a joy.
Benzychenz
Member
What are you doing with your life?I still need to play the 2nd one
Dimitri LH
Member
Great Work Anth0ny! Lets get you a job and Nintendo Tree House!
Gonna say something...not sure what to make of it.
Today I went to Gamestop, I went to ask and see if they knew what the Hyrule Warriors Exclusive store content was. No go, they dint know yet, but knew they were gonna get confirmation soon. Then I asked if Smash 4 3DS was gonna have some bundle or pre-order. He said yes, "a character"....character? He then fumbled with his words then took back the character remark. normally I would shrug this off but this guy usually knows about the game coming and has been working at GS for years, he seem worried that he told me that. He never would make a mistake like that I think. Again take this as a grain of salt, since I doubt Sakurai would pull of a exclusive character thing....maybe the GS guy meant exclusive amiibo?
Gonna say something...not sure what to make of it.
Today I went to Gamestop, I went to ask and see if they knew what the Hyrule Warriors Exclusive store content was. No go, they dint know yet, but knew they were gonna get confirmation soon. Then I asked if Smash 4 3DS was gonna have some bundle or pre-order. He said yes, "a character"....character? He then fumbled with his words then took back the character remark. normally I would shrug this off but this guy usually knows about the game coming and has been working at GS for years, he seem worried that he told me that. He never would make a mistake like that I think. Again take this as a grain of salt, since I doubt Sakurai would pull of a exclusive character thing....maybe the GS guy meant exclusive amiibo?
Spinosaurus
Member
Great write up. Can't wait for part 3.
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