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[Spinosaurus]

Mario and Falcon impressions:


Falcon knee back to Melee sweetspot status confirmed? PRAISE THE SUN!

Holy crap the Falcon info

All I need <3

 

[DrStiles]

falcon kick can still help recover, raptor boost is the same but slower, it doesn't grab, and the knee is easier to sweetspot.
https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508393763950325760

The knee being easier to sweetspot sorta makes up for the increased landing lag on it. I think they want it to be more of a kill move than combo move in this game.

 

[PK Gaming]

"Marth and sonic have no ko moves. Marth killed Kirby with tipper f smash at 125% and sonic kills with up throw spring up throw at 100"

This does not bode well for Lucina...!

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

This is the second time the Smash community gave Samus the shaft. No wonder she ain't getting a proper sequel. Nobody cares! :'(

Update us with samus impressions!

 

[Durden77]

Knee sweet spot getting back to not sucking bawlz yesssssss

 

[Hyperactivity]

That Sakurai favoritism.

Sakurai's main in Ganondorf

 

[Josephl64]

I'm happy Yoshi is buffed...sounds good ~

 

[Aaronrules380]

On the stream I think Wein said Shulk is OP. Makes me happy since I want to main him

 

[Kinsei]

Sakurai's main in Ganondorf

How does that conflict with what he said? If anything Ganondorf being his main proves that his bias affects the games development.

 

[Crocodile]

Mario and Falcon impressions:



https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508393443690029057



https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508393573499547648



https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508393763950325760

Falcon knee back to Melee sweetspot status confirmed? PRAISE THE SUN! (Meaning easier to sweetspot and it's strong again)

 

[Hatchtag]

Sakurai's main in Ganondorf

Sakurai used Ganondorf once in a match. By that logic, Megaman is his main now.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Sakurai's main in Ganondorf

That's why he sucks, Sakurai wants a challenge

 

[Revven]

The knee being easier to sweetspot sorta makes up for the increased landing lag on it. I think they want it to be more of a kill move than combo move in this game.

The reason knee could combo in Melee was primarily because of the momentum being retained from his dash/run when he jumps -- it allowed him to get out there before hitstun for the knee ended. More landing lag on it only makes it riskier on-stage, off-stage it could be really good again ala Melee (except without momentum retained from his dash it might not be used in the same situations as Melee for the edgeguards).

 

[Cody_D165]

falcon is the same but seems better than brawl, he's more like melee falcon. Falcon pinch is faster and easier to reverse.

 

[Hyperactivity]

Knee sweet spot getting back to not sucking brawlz yesssssss

FTFY

 

[MrSaturn99]

Do we even have confirmation that Ganondorf is his favorite character aside from that one variety show clip?

Regardless, I'm p. dang tired of this "oh we should cut characters because they don't function like their source material" thing.

 

[Tripon]

http://www.twitch.tv/d1mx

D1 talking about Smash 4 now.

 

[Super Stardust]

I love this gif, any news on whether foxes black costume really does make him look like wolf?

 

[SuperSah]

Need some Toon Link coverage, c'mon.

 

[Kinsei]

Do we even have confirmation that Ganondorf is his favorite character aside from that one variety show clip?

Regardless, I'm p. dang tired of this "oh we should cut characters because they don't function like their source material" thing.

What's the point of having a character in Smash if they act nothing like they do in their games?

 

[Revven]

I love this gif, any news on whether foxes black costume really does make him look like wolf?

Zipzo said it looks nothing like the Dark Fox color in Brawl so it's a different color completely, basically.

 

[Karsticles]

What's the point of having a character in Smash if they act nothing like they do in their games?

Have you met Captain Falcon?

 

[zroid]

Ganondorf is the only character who's moveset needs to be completely scrapped and redone. Falcondorf is seriously a slap in the face to one of Nintendo's most iconic villains

More likely scenario: Falcondorf's moveset will be incorporated into Ganondorf's attacks in an actual future Zelda game, thereby canonizing it once and for all. ( &#861;° &#860;&#662;&#865;°)

 

[Seven Force]

Oh, for fuck's Sake, Sonic is still ass at getting a kill?

And Marth

 

[SUPERJEM94]

Trying to catch up with all the news, but has there been any info on Samus?

 

[Velcro Fly]

I know I'm probably not alone but I would shamelessly buy all costume DLC if they made that.

 

[Kinsei]

Have you met Captain Falcon?

That's a completely different from someone like Ganondorf. They HAD to make up a moveset for an F-Zero rep.

 

[Super Stardust]

Zipzo said it looks nothing like the Dark Fox color in Brawl so it's a different color completely, basically.

:'(

 

[Masked Man]

Do we even have confirmation that Ganondorf is his favorite character aside from that one variety show clip?

Regardless, I'm p. dang tired of this "oh we should cut characters because they don't function like their source material" thing.

To be fair, he never even said Ganondorf was his favorite; he just happened to pick him.

 

[Kriken]

Still nothing on Ike? :/

 

[Crocodile]

What's the point of having a character in Smash if they act nothing like they do in their games?

Might as well throw out Captain Falcon and a bunch of other characters currently in the game out. It's good to reference the source material in these sorts of cross-over games but when you become too literal with "sticking to the source material" you can easily end up with a lot of shitty, poorly-designed fighting game characters

 

[MrSaturn99]

What's the point of having a character in Smash if they act nothing like they do in their games?

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

Can someone ask about Samus?

http://www.twitch.tv/d1mx

 

[Mik317]

What's the point of having a character in Smash if they act nothing like they do in their games?

With that logic we should cut Fox and Falcon then

 

[Karsticles]

That's a completely different from someone like Ganondorf. They HAD to make up a moveset for an F-Zero rep.

Fine, then Wario and Yoshi.

 

[Revven]

More impressions:

pikachu a up b is quicker for whatever reason, side b charges a bit faster, down b is harder to spam and neutral b is a lot faster

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508396270567038976

your waifu palutena is a godess in uprising and smash 4. Her up throw goes into up air up air and back air amazingly.

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508396451790352384

Wolf color clarification:

for all the people confused about fox having a wolf alt it's just fox with wolfs colors, not a full alt.

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508396698008559616

 

[Fandangox]

Falcon knee back to Melee sweetspot status confirmed? PRAISE THE SUN! (Meaning easier to sweetspot and it's strong again)

HAPPENING

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

Im sure both those characters fight the same way in any game theyve ever physically fought in

 

[Kinsei]

Again, how are they comparable to characters who actually have moves that can be taken from their games?

Fine, then Wario and Yoshi.

I think Wario should be redone. Yoshi is pretty faithful. Eating enemies and turning them into eggs, ground pounding, throwing eggs, and his flutter jump are all in Smash. They even incorporated his shell abilities into his FS.

 

[MrSaturn99]

To be fair, he never even said Ganondorf was his favorite; he just happened to pick him.

That's my guess. You could tell he wasn't playing seriously at all.

 

[PadWarrior]

Ask about mario colors

 

[Mik317]

Falcondorf is forever guys

 

[Hatchtag]

Again, how are they comparable to characters who actually have moves that can be taken from their games?

Falcon could drive a car, that'd be really unique. Same with Fox and Falco with arwings. Rob could have a moveset based on stacking things.
Point is, they don't, because Sakurai couldn't think of a fun, creative moveset that did, but he still wanted characters in the game. The same goes for Ganondorf. He probably couldn't think of a really fun, unique sword or magic moveset for Ganondorf, but thought enough people enjoyed heavy falcon and that Ganondorf was a good choice for that type of moveset.

I mean, look at Ridley. Ridley's not in and has been fan requested, and Sakurai's basically said that's because they couldn't think of a good way to do it.

 

[The Bankslammer]

before they play sakurai says he'll go easy so it could be interpreted that he knows ganondorf is trash and that's why he picked him

 

[rawktapus]

Again, how are they comparable to characters who actually have moves that can be taken from their games?

Fox has fought on foot in both star Fox adventures and assault. They could have pulled moves from those if they wanted.

 

[MrSaturn99]

Still nothing on Ike? :/

Ike is the same but faster up smash and up b hoes a bit higher

Fine, then Wario and Yoshi.

welp, time to bail

Spoiler

nothing against you Karsticles but I'm not getting into that argument again lol

 

[Revven]

Short Samus impressions from the stream chat:

Samus is great at spacing and better at killing
It's just a bit faster to start up the charge is the same

The last line is talking about Samus' charge shot.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Pit impressions:



https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508390621821042688

That really make me happy to hear that Pit's good.

 

[chaosblade]

Fox had Wolf colors in Brawl, I assume Wolf isn't in but the colors don't really mean much.

 

[Kriken]

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Didn't see that initially, saw Revven's post about trying out Ike and couldn't find a follow up