Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

So it did happen then. I presume she's Twilight Princess Zelda right?

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So what do people actually think the Phantom is then?

I still think it's an Assist Trophy.

I've got an avatar bet with Pop-O-Matic on this because it's not an assist trophy. The design of the shield makes it clear that it's Zelda's Phantom from Spirit Tracks, but the aesthetic has been changed and more details have been added to make it look like it could be from Twilight Princess.

The redesign makes it pretty clear that it's part of her moveset and I will be vindicated on this soon.
 
Yup.

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Also, Triple Deluxe comes out on the 11th, so Sakurai might not reveal Dedede/Meta Knight until the end of this week or the beginning of the next.

Oh neat, possible new move (unless Sakurai's trolling us to the max here). I wonder what move it'll replace though.

As for a Kirby character reveal, possibly on the 10th then, day before Triple Deluxe.
 
Too different from the source material and detailed for assist I think. Betting on move.

If it was assist I think it would be in the toon style like Tingle was.
 
Isn't Skull Kid also very detailed? Also the Nintendog is very detailed..

Detailed is a poor word, but their design is a direct translation of their original art in the the SSB4 style (which mandates some amount of detail all its own). Every assist trophy from Brawl and what we've seen here adheres to that. The Phantom would be an unprecedented change.

Skull Kid's probably a bad example though, since he's not really that detailed. Simple textures and a low-poly model. Looks like it was just modified slightly from the source material.
 
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Isn't Skull Kid also very detailed? Also the Nintendog is very detailed..

EDIT: Well, the dog isn't amazingly detailed, but you get the point:

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I think detailed is a wrong term.

More like not "sticking" with their original look. Phantom feels stylized to match Zelda.
 
SuperSah if you want to avatar bet me too I'm down. That goes for everyone.

The deal I have with Pop-O-Matic lets the winner change the loser's avatar until the release of SSB4. I'll make that same deal with any of you, and if I lose every winner gets to take turns with an equal amount of time.
 
SuperSah if you want to avatar bet me too I'm down. That goes for everyone.

No thank you, I'm more than likely incorrect and it is part of her move set, so we'll see anyways.

Judging by this pic:

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If the Phantom is a move set item, can we move it like you can in ST judging by the fact it's not in the shot at all?
 
Would be kinda neat if down b summoned the Phantom and then you could play as it until you either hit down b again or until Zelda is attacked.
 
I think I'm the only one who doesn't want the phantom to be her Down-B. I want Zelda and Sheik to stay as one because it makes her a unique character.
 
I don't want the goddess powers replaced on Zelda. The goddesses are a huge part of the Zelda series while the Phantom Armor thing happened once and most likely will never happen again.

That's why I hope the Armor is down b. Not that I want Sheik gone though. I'd be fine if she was a different character or if Zelda changed by taunting.
 
If Zelda changed by taunting, would they allow her to use that specific taunt mid air? Or could we be seeing a Samus/Zero Suit style thing where Zelda's Final Smash turns her into Sheik and vice versa?
 
I'd actually be surprised if it is a new move replacing her transformation, of all things. All the screenshots show her in a pose that seems to insinuate it being a side special.
 
I wonder when we'll see 3DS' first Assist Trophy. Curious as to whether they will be different.

Have we seen any items for the 3DS game yet?
 
I'm indifferent towards the whole phantom thing and undecided about what it is and feel it is being taken way too seriously for just one little thing.
I wonder when we'll see 3DS' first Assist Trophy. Curious as to whether they will be different.

Have we seen any items for the 3DS game yet?
I don't imagine them being any different.

I don't think so.
that monster thing from those battle mii game things
That seems more like it is a part of the stage.
 
I wonder when we'll see 3DS' first Assist Trophy. Curious as to whether they will be different.

Have we seen any items for the 3DS game yet?

I'm pretty sure that we are getting same items, poke balls and assist trophies on both system. If we didn't then Stafy would be 3DS assist trophies for sure since his games only release for handheld system.
 
I wonder when we'll see 3DS' first Assist Trophy. Curious as to whether they will be different.

Have we seen any items for the 3DS game yet?

I don't think we've seen any items in the 3DS version so far. As for Assist Trophies, I'd imagine that they'll be the same between versions. Only content I see being different are stages and perhaps some single player content (stage specific event mode matches for example or a larger adventure mode for Wii U).
 
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