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Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition |OT4| Daigo Who?
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DryEyeRelief
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broz0rs
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biosnake20 said:
I listened to this at work and there's two interesting remarks.
Xian said that the Yun nerfs aren't all that bad. His bnb's are still in tact and probably just requires one more mix up to win. He did say that you can't play scrubby anymore, such as using EX lunge punch to get in safely.
Zhi noted that Mago pretty much laughed at the Fei nerfs because it was obviously very little.
"I don't care about you at all LiangHuBBB, now please listen to my drunken 45 minute rant explaining how much I don't care about petty shit like credit for crappy youtube videos. LOSER! *hiccup*"
Dude really needs to lay off the sauce. That is not a healthy looking 26 year old. :*(
Satyamdas said:
"I don't care about you at all LiangHuBBB, now please listen to my drunken 45 minute rant explaining how much I don't care about petty shit like credit for crappy youtube videos. LOSER! *hiccup*"
Dude really needs to lay off the sauce. That is not a healthy looking 26 year old. :*(
Looking like Hugo is not a good thing, at all.
Especially without being 8 feet tall and the 450 pounds.black_vegeta
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Cross Counter NORCAL TRAPPED IN THE EVELATOR @ the rio evo2k11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtaHuaRSxY4&feature=feedu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjEknX07rV8&feature=feedu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtaHuaRSxY4&feature=feedu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjEknX07rV8&feature=feedu
Made a shitty Summer Jam 5 thread. Also threw in a recap of last year's event, with playlists.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442547
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442547
the_log_ride
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_dementia said:
His backwards walkspeed was sped up, wasn't it?
alstein said:
Don't worry. You'll see Evil Ryus. EVERYWHERE.
Dunno if this was posted, but I read that the location test will be streamed at: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv61444689
USD, can you verify? I haven't activated a nico account, but I remember there being a website where you can copy/paste the nico url into a field and watch videos.
@saty: YEP THAT'S THE ONE. Thanks.
Nicovideo redirectorthe_log_ride said:
Professor Beef
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I was expecting a "trapped in the closet" video with the Rio Elevator videos there.
What i saw was still entertaining.
What i saw was still entertaining.
Rentahamster
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Ah, I see. Listening to the CC analysis I misunderstood that you just plain couldn't get hit.sephi22 said:
Yea that was wackblack_vegeta said:
But ViperRX decided to share his thougts on goukens changes. His sentiments mirror my own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF7t9VYOvEk&feature=feedu
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Lol at that ladyblack_vegeta said:
sixteen-bit
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I have a can of the Sonic Boom versionDryEyeRelief said:
GhostRidah
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DryEyeRelief
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AMALGAME TV: WEEKLY LIVE SHOW FOR JAPAN TO DISCUSS THE AMERICAN FG SCENE, YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED by Fubarduck:
http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/8/...ive-show-for-japan-to-discuss-the-americ.html
http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/8/...ive-show-for-japan-to-discuss-the-americ.html
GhostRidah
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the_log_ride
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Imm0rt4l said:
Here's the schedule: http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/images/tournament_summer.pdf
It's gonna be on Sunday 8/28 Pretty sure it says the location tests start at 18:30
Converting that it'll be 2:30am (Sunday Morning) on the west coast.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Pop On Arrival
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPEsOrf2S0A
We just had our national tournament here in the Philippines recently. yeah yeah, I know it's not really a major or anything and all this footage was just by one dude with a crappy camera, but 200+ people packed a crowded venue over here for the biggest 2D Fighting game event in the Philippines. Shit was so much fun, haha.
We just had our national tournament here in the Philippines recently. yeah yeah, I know it's not really a major or anything and all this footage was just by one dude with a crappy camera, but 200+ people packed a crowded venue over here for the biggest 2D Fighting game event in the Philippines. Shit was so much fun, haha.
RE Makoto:
While this is mostly conjecture I think i've figured out Capcom's reasoning for the charged hayate "buffs". Earlier yesterday on this tweet, it mentions that lvl3/4 hayate feels like EX in terms of distance and speed. The original blog also mentions that lvl5 utilizes a sound queue from Mak, so either they moved/added another voice clip or the charge has been sped up from its original point which IIRC is at 64 frames.
Originally you reach lvl4 after Makoto finishes saying "Here I come", so if the charge time has been sped up she now has a near full screen attack that breaks armor, meterless and pretty safe on block.
Of course that by itself isn't that hot. Even if they speed up the charge its still not instant and her shouting makes it pretty telegraphed. But since Makoto in the SF4 series has always revolved around punishing the opponent for trying to avoid what she really wants to do (ie karakusa) there could be something a bit useful here.
So the safest option to avoid a charged hayate that could armor break (lvl 5) would be to use either a quick normal or a normal with decent active frames. Depending on when they react (ie her voice, the charge stance or the attack itself) you could either cancel the attack and get a free dash in or maybe delay further and whiff punish with the charged hayate. I'm taking a giant leap here but if they're reacting to the actual attack then doing a cancel > dash might be pretty useful. Only problem with that the cancel animation plus dashing is around 28 frames by itself so it might be pretty obvious.
If the opponent tries something passive like neutral jump or backdash, you cancel and dash to possibly punish accordingly. If they react with something bigger like an invincible move then Mak gets a free punish. In matches that you use U2 you could possibly use HC's to bait projectiles and maaaybe get a full ultra.
IF this is true then down the line you might see Makotos doing a lot more hayate cancels from mid to long range, kind of like (but not as effective) viper's TK feints. Its a bit farfetched but it almost sounds plausible to me.
While this is mostly conjecture I think i've figured out Capcom's reasoning for the charged hayate "buffs". Earlier yesterday on this tweet, it mentions that lvl3/4 hayate feels like EX in terms of distance and speed. The original blog also mentions that lvl5 utilizes a sound queue from Mak, so either they moved/added another voice clip or the charge has been sped up from its original point which IIRC is at 64 frames.
Originally you reach lvl4 after Makoto finishes saying "Here I come", so if the charge time has been sped up she now has a near full screen attack that breaks armor, meterless and pretty safe on block.
Of course that by itself isn't that hot. Even if they speed up the charge its still not instant and her shouting makes it pretty telegraphed. But since Makoto in the SF4 series has always revolved around punishing the opponent for trying to avoid what she really wants to do (ie karakusa) there could be something a bit useful here.
So the safest option to avoid a charged hayate that could armor break (lvl 5) would be to use either a quick normal or a normal with decent active frames. Depending on when they react (ie her voice, the charge stance or the attack itself) you could either cancel the attack and get a free dash in or maybe delay further and whiff punish with the charged hayate. I'm taking a giant leap here but if they're reacting to the actual attack then doing a cancel > dash might be pretty useful. Only problem with that the cancel animation plus dashing is around 28 frames by itself so it might be pretty obvious.
If the opponent tries something passive like neutral jump or backdash, you cancel and dash to possibly punish accordingly. If they react with something bigger like an invincible move then Mak gets a free punish. In matches that you use U2 you could possibly use HC's to bait projectiles and maaaybe get a full ultra.
IF this is true then down the line you might see Makotos doing a lot more hayate cancels from mid to long range, kind of like (but not as effective) viper's TK feints. Its a bit farfetched but it almost sounds plausible to me.
Rice-Eater
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Pop On Arrival said:
Man, that dude with the most thumbs up made a very clever joke. I applaud him for having both the insight and intelligence to create such a clever joke.
sixteen-bit
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Congrats. This post made me read a youtube comment.Rice-Eater said:
Rice-Eater
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Just wanted to say
Pop on Arrival = The Real Filipino Champ
And btw, any tourney with 100+ people in attendance is a major IMO. You guys had over 200, which is a pretty significant. Keep it up and I hope we see some real Filipino reps from the Phillipines next year at EVO(unless there were some already then forget it).
Pop on Arrival = The Real Filipino Champ
And btw, any tourney with 100+ people in attendance is a major IMO. You guys had over 200, which is a pretty significant. Keep it up and I hope we see some real Filipino reps from the Phillipines next year at EVO(unless there were some already then forget it).
biosnake20
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IM CUMMINGUSD said:
Lost Fragment
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biosnake20 said:
At the twins still winning?
DryEyeRelief
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Virtualand Tournament Series: China Nat. Tourney: Singapore Qualifier Starts at 4:00pm Singapore time 1:00am PST
http://www.twitch.tv/crosscountertv
http://www.twitch.tv/crosscountertv
GhostRidah
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twinning!Lost Fragment said:
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And now I will go kill myself.
biosnake20
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My thoughts on the vids:
-Codys new walkspeed is barely noticeable
- Evil ryus new health in noticable
-Hakans oil at start was a nice edition but nothing else was really shown off
-Fei is still godlike
- Adons improved dp hitbox is good.
-Yuns damage nerfs and divekick restrictions are very noticable. His divekick is like yangs now. And his second hit of his target combo is so easily punishable now
-Codys new walkspeed is barely noticeable
- Evil ryus new health in noticable
-Hakans oil at start was a nice edition but nothing else was really shown off
-Fei is still godlike
- Adons improved dp hitbox is good.
-Yuns damage nerfs and divekick restrictions are very noticable. His divekick is like yangs now. And his second hit of his target combo is so easily punishable now
viperRX's commentary on gouken changes, since Zhi and Xian neglected to speak on him. His sentiments mirror my own, including the annotations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF7t9VYOvEk&feature=feedu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF7t9VYOvEk&feature=feedu
USD said:
The twins+Fei Long are still good characters, but not as auto pilot as before. The level of play was rather low, so you don't learn much by watching these videos. The Cody player wasn't anything special, but it appears clear to me that he won't be god tier by any means. He is still weak on wake up and the new walkspeed speed buff isn't massive.
So with the way the changes are looking now, who will belong to the upper echelon of the tier rankings?
I really think fei is one of the most boring characters to watch, so here's hoping we get some of that...erhm...that...ugh... cody! yeah cody.
I really think fei is one of the most boring characters to watch
, so here's hoping we get some of that...erhm...that...ugh... cody! yeah cody.GhostRidah
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Sagat, Ken, Bipson, FeiCorky said:So with the way the changes are looking now, who will belong to the upper echelon of the tier rankings?
I really think fei is one of the most boring characters to watch
Fuck yeah. Cody is awesome. I'd love to see him in a lot more tourneys. Momochi's Cody is a thing of beauty. Sasaki is really good as well.Corky said:So with the way the changes are looking now, who will belong to the upper echelon of the tier rankings?
I really think fei is one of the most boring characters to watch
Lionheart1337
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Kadey said:
LOL Small world