PHOENIXZERO
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The movies are why they can't actually cast someone (I'm not counting the stand in they're using) and actually use him so they're doing all these things to skirt around him.
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The movies are why they can't actually cast someone (I'm not counting the stand in they're using) and actually use him so they're doing all these things to skirt around him.
Razgriz-Specter
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The whole issue is ridiculous with WB.
Arrow = can't reference Gotham City at all, long before the series was developed.
Flash = direct Wayne Enterprises reference in the pilot.
How did they even get permission to do a Flash series with WB knowing he was basically the #2 lock for a movie after a Batman reboot.
Superman WB really shouldn't worry about, movies will always be a better fit for him than tv. You don't lose much with a tv Superman.
Batman on the other hand makes sense, Arrow(regardless of acting,writing and season 3) proves Batman can be done absolutely perfectly on tv and not require a movie for very much.
Gotham adds to that as a near perfect representation of Batman's world.
If Gotham or Arrow were Batman other than Batman vs Superman or Justice League why would you even really need to go out and pay to see a 2hour Batman movie with an hour of Batman every week.
Arrow = can't reference Gotham City at all, long before the series was developed.
Flash = direct Wayne Enterprises reference in the pilot.
How did they even get permission to do a Flash series with WB knowing he was basically the #2 lock for a movie after a Batman reboot.
Superman WB really shouldn't worry about, movies will always be a better fit for him than tv. You don't lose much with a tv Superman.
Batman on the other hand makes sense, Arrow(regardless of acting,writing and season 3) proves Batman can be done absolutely perfectly on tv and not require a movie for very much.
Gotham adds to that as a near perfect representation of Batman's world.
If Gotham or Arrow were Batman other than Batman vs Superman or Justice League why would you even really need to go out and pay to see a 2hour Batman movie with an hour of Batman every week.
BrokenFiction
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This is why it needed to be a goddamned continuous universe. So much confusion.
Razgriz-Specter
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WB wouldn't allow Two-Face, Scarecrow, Ra's & Talia in a Batman cartoon series for fear it would mess with Begins & TDK...
WB is weird.
HP_Wuvcraft
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The WB didn't do an Aquaman TV series because the game was currently out.
They wrote "The Death of Superman" because Lois & Clark was doing the same storyline as in the comics at the time (the wedding).
WB and DC are no stranger to reacting to the smallest shit with brand overkill.
Right? When BvS comes out I'd imagine every one would just think why Superman or Batman couldn't show up.
"Oh maybe they just couldn't afford to get Cavill to come on." or something.
We don't need another damn continuity.
It is even more stupider than the examples:
Arrow S2: Can build up to Ted Kord.
Arrow S3: Can't have Ted Kord.
Arrow S4: Can build up to Ted Kord
...
Their creative lead who is working on both the movie and the show is a HUUUUUUUUUUGE Barry Allen fanboy.
Knightmarre
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Not sure why but this is really bothering me too. Either make it longer or shorter, the way it is now is stupid looking.
ew no thanks. all that would do is limit the shows even more.
I'm not well versed with Marvel but isn't it the same?
I was under the impression they have great villains, they're all just written 1 dimensionally and very poorly.
I always have the idea that Marvel just doesn't have access to their memorable villains, with the X-Men and Spider-Man universe being out of the equation. Someone like Batman has probably more noticeable villains than the current Marvel movies together.
Freddy=Legend
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I don't think the Spider-Man villains are completely off the table anymore. Now if they can just find a way to get those Fantastic Four ones. Not having their villains hurts Marvel.
Subpar Spatula
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Specifically what's great about Kara and Alex's relationship? I get it girl power ra ra! Nothing between them seems well done because they're following the cliché: "You have to have faith in me!" Alex at this point is another character Kara has to tell repeatedly to have faith.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Agents of Shield is on a network that is owned by Disney. The same company that owns Marvel. It's a bit of a different situation. Everything falls under one giant roof.
I agree that it is dumb that all of these properties can't reference one another, but its stickier when you realize that Gotham is on one Network, Flash/Arrow are on another, and Supergirl is on a third. (Yes, I know that CBS has some stake in CW too.)
Well even so, there's no reason why they couldn't have great villains regardless of who they're allowed to use. People say how Mister Freeze wasn't a very interesting villain until Btas.
im really enjoying this show atm. Last episode was quite good. Definitely getting flash and arrow vibes. I think a crossover would work swimingly I think they would have to crossover with flash first though then do the team up with team arrow. Have supergirl take place in like earth 3 or something then use one of the breaches to bring her in.
Arnold Schwarzenegger already made him memorable, even if it was in a bad way.
get over this "girl power ra ra" shit, it hasn't even registered for me since the pilot.
Alex and Kara's quieter scenes such as in episode 2 drinking tea/coffee and talking over breakfast and dinner were incredibly endearing. Melissa and Chyler have fantastic chemistry and watching them just hang out and jab at eachother is adorable.
I'm team keep the universes separate. It would be nice if Supergirl crossed over to Flash and Arrow but keep them away from the movies and it's fine for Gotham to do it's own thing.
Also team Chyler Leigh needs a better haircut.
It wouldn't matter if Marvel Studios had access to memorable villains, they choose not to put any effort into them. Even if they had someone like Doom and cast a fantastic actor to play him, they'd still get tossed aside like all their other villains. It's all about the heroes with them. You can look at every single villain and the actor portraying them and see they could have done a lot more with them.
Also team Chyler Leigh needs a better haircut.
It wouldn't matter if Marvel Studios had access to memorable villains, they choose not to put any effort into them. Even if they had someone like Doom and cast a fantastic actor to play him, they'd still get tossed aside like all their other villains. It's all about the heroes with them. You can look at every single villain and the actor portraying them and see they could have done a lot more with them.
PHOENIXZERO
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Whoever posted that sucks at math, I see it was corrected to 29% on the page though, that's not a huge DVR improvement but still good that it's over 11M.
I just realized that site isn't a part of the KSite family of sites. >_>
I just realized that site isn't a part of the KSite family of sites. >_>
PHOENIXZERO
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Actually a 27% increase in total viewers and a 36% increase in the 18-49 demo. Not a huge boost (68%) like what Blindspot got but good enough. Quantico got a 115% boost, holy crap.
http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=43948
Gotham didn't seem to get a big enough boost to make it into the top 20 this week.
http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=43948
Gotham didn't seem to get a big enough boost to make it into the top 20 this week.
KDash31987
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First footage of
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT_eyoa36Qg
Livewire
WrenchNinja
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Well I hope that episode wasn't series plot heavy
KDash31987
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I hope it gets aired soon...or at least put up online.
Anyway, I guess that explains why they put up that Livewire preview early...heh.
Edit: https://twitter.com/karterhol/status/665962597187874816
Anyway, I guess that explains why they put up that Livewire preview early...heh.
Edit: https://twitter.com/karterhol/status/665962597187874816
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
NBC did something similar during Season 1 of Hannibal. The 4th episode "Œuf" was pulled and they broke up the important story moments into clips and put it on their website. But they also had the full thing on Amazon Prime Video, as well. Hopefully CBS makes it available online for season pass holders and also puts it on their streaming service
I'm looking forward to seeing Livewire more anyway, so I'm not in a huge rush to watch the removed episode.
BluenoseGames
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It's only been pushed
also, here's the IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4016454/episodes?season=1&ref_=tt_eps_sn_1
I'm just gonna not watch this week and watch them in order next week.
Subpar Spatula
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I can't take comments like these seriously because it's not about their acting, dialogue, or something substantial (that the show goes for), it's "look at how cute and adorable they are".
It's a pretty unwittingly patronizing defense. Ignoring the actual characterization for the sake of aw-ing at them as if they were a bundle of kittens.
It kind of happens in Gotham as well. People hated Barbara in season 1, but now the show is capitolizing more on the actress's attractiveness, they love her. But they never say they enjoy her character, just how hot she is. It's not really a respectful compliment, especially when it's all they say.
oh shut up. Do I have to draw out a why I found sisters bickering about pot stickers, cute? It's a simple interaction over something so minuscule in a Superhero show that was made relaxing and believable due to the dialogue and familiarity between Alex and Kara. "I'll melt your face off." and "not on this planet" take on a much bigger and funnier context because they're said in a way that is technically literal and wouldn't obviously apply to a normal conversation.
To get these kind of moments in a genre show is important for general character building and levity.
Agreed!
PHOENIXZERO
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Barbara only got entertaining with her downward spiral before then she was dull as dishwater.
Baroquemantic
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Woooo, just finished episode 3. It was pretty good. Screw that asshole Lord guy, though. Also, I hope they don't have too much of that BS romantic drama. I ain't got time for that!
DangerMouse
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Woohooo!
SchrodingerC
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Did they seriously think two poles and cuffs would contain lizard/gator lady?
I'm doubting the logic of this agency.
I'm doubting the logic of this agency.
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