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Also a tip to improving IE10 performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960867&page=4
Edit: Actually, here's a collection of tips.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970464
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960867&page=4
Edit: Actually, here's a collection of tips.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970464
My god man!! Awesome tips. Knew most of them except the IE lists.
Steelyuhas
Member
Not surprising if that ends up being the ball park prices in the U.S.
Well it's cheaper than I expected
Bear in mind that the prices there are without tax so add 20℅ on for UK.
Xplatformer
Member
Man...this is going to be along 45 days. 
Its the truth. I don't much understand Acer's problem with MS Surface tab and Surface phone. The only difference between Nexus and Surface is that the Nexus uses the OHA manufacturers to make the hardware, but I dont see how that is a difference that ruffles Acers feathers so much.
Both times with Tablets and with Phones it took the Nexus devices to either establish or kick start a beachhead for better devices, and in turn more sales for all of the HW manufacturers. Surface will do the same. The W8 RT tabs have an identity now. A form factor, a silhouette of you will. Now the lost in the woods assed manufacturers will build on it and see some success, and of course, forget to retract these statements.
yn-neko hates a cat
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It's not cheap at less than $900. First of all, there is no way in hell MS is planning on selling the Surface Pro at less than $1100. Sure, I would love to see them sell it at $200 even and I'd buy it with no guilt known that MS would lose money but the reality that we live in has demonstrated that MS is not about rocking the OEM boat (whinny bitches like Acer not withholding). Just about everything and everyone that has mentioned their conceptual price for the Surface Pro has placed it well above $800 when making wishes. This is beginning to feel a little like the whole poisoning the well thing we saw with the $200 Surface RT rumor where someone says an unreasonable price just to have the final reaction to the real price build controversy.
brotkasten
Member
It says 809 EUR incl. VAT.
You have to remember that devices in EU are never priced at current conversion rates, it's always closer to 1:1. Surface RT for instance is 479€ in Germany, which is about $612, not anywhere near to $499.
So if you add 19% sales tax to the price mentioned on the site, it would come out at about 820€ (Edit: Oh, I see it's 809€. Keep in mind, that's a few bucks cheaper than the 3G 64GB iPad over here.
IMO a Surface Pro for around $850 would be pretty damn great.
I'm not sure I'd trust some small German site to have the prices before anyone else, though.
So if you add 19% sales tax to the price mentioned on the site, it would come out at about 820€ (Edit: Oh, I see it's 809€
. Keep in mind, that's a few bucks cheaper than the 3G 64GB iPad over here.IMO a Surface Pro for around $850 would be pretty damn great.
I'm not sure I'd trust some small German site to have the prices before anyone else, though.
The 64 GB Surface RT has 3G?So if you add 19% sales tax to the price mentioned on the site, it would come out at about 820€ (Edit: Oh, I see it's 809€
Nope. That was just for context, I was trying to say that it's not really priced out of the iPad range.
And yet it's a full PC, too. With an integrated digitizer.
810€ would be amazing, as long as the battery holds up.
From the original source:
Edit: There's a Microsoft Translator? I've never seen anyone use that before.
Ah the website itself, I was looking at the article thinking I was missing something!
brotkasten
Member
Always check the source! ;-)
brotkasten
Member
Chances are if Google has a service, there's the same thing from Microsoft. I used translate.bing.com instead of Google, because it worked and Google didn't.
That's silly context. I would never compare it to the 3G version if it doesn't have 3G itself.
So I shouldn't compare the iPhone 5 to Android phones because Google Maps actually works?
You can't always go 1:1 for every feature.
No, I'm not fully serious here. I still think the pricing is way more competitive than I expected, IF it is real
Great power comes at a price.
brotkasten
Member
I think it's pretty good for an Ultrabook.
Surface Pro with a keyboard is heavier than a MBA or Zenbook Pro though.
brotkasten
Member
I didn't say it's the lightest Ultrabook.
yn-neko hates a cat
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Dual digitizers mind you...
I just hope the pen is decent for drawing.
http://www.patentbolt.com/2012/06/the-patent-behind-microsofts-digital-pen-for-surface-tablets.html
It's late so I haven't been able to go over the above article in much detail, but is the Surface Pro Pen not pressure sensitive? Looks like it uses a LED or infra-red laser(?). I believe this is different than how N-trig and Wacom pens work?
http://www.patentbolt.com/2012/06/the-patent-behind-microsofts-digital-pen-for-surface-tablets.html
It's late so I haven't been able to go over the above article in much detail, but is the Surface Pro Pen not pressure sensitive? Looks like it uses a LED or infra-red laser(?). I believe this is different than how N-trig and Wacom pens work?
brotkasten
Member
My Bamboo Pen & Touch works, but it doesn't support Windows 8 gestures, because there are no Windows 8 drivers yet. Even if there were, I doubt Wacom would include that functionality into the previous gen. Gotta sell the new gen!
e: Oh, this is the Surface thread, not the Windows 8 OT. Sorry.
brotkasten
Member
End of January. Probably.
Xplatformer
Member
Well..we know that Microsoft is running some Belkin and Apple level margins on those $120 type cover keyboards.
Can't a bluetooth mouse and keyboard be bought for less than $60?
How do you know if you have a Mercedes if you can't get that click sound?
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Dude, it supports up to four wireless controllers and supposedly a 250GB hard drive.
Dude, it supports up to four wireless controllers and supposedly a 250GB hard drive.
380 watts. . . .
Must be accurate.