Physiognomonics
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Is there a technical reason BC could be hard to do? I didn't really follow latest news about Switch 2.
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'Switch 2' Doesn't Really Need Backwards Compatibility - Nintendolife
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Reizo Ryuu
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The only reason they would conceivably struggle with this would be if they switch architectures for the new console, which would require them to write emulation middleware to play the old games.
Like if they moved to their own custom CPU, rather than just using a faster / newer version of their existing chip.
BbMajor7th
Member
Remember when journalism was about holding things to the highest standards, rather than arguing that it might be better if we all lowered them a bit?
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
To sell? Nope, it certainly does not. It just needs awesome exclusives.
Little Mac
Member
Nintendo's history of backwards compatability
Personally I hope it will. It would have so much momentum at launch if it did.
Personally I hope it will. It would have so much momentum at launch if it did.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I don't see why this won't be full BC? Wii U was BC with Wii software. 3DS was BC with DS software. Nintendo have a good recent track record. Assuming the next console doesn't attempt anything too drastically different from the switch (Nintendo would be idiots to go down that route) then I see no reason to worry.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
Does anyone think this is games media helping Nintendo gauge the interest in Backwards Compatibility and if they can get away with not including it?
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I'd say there's a good chance that they know their audience will click on any old rubbish and the more outlandish / console warring / obviously wrong stuff they write gets the most clicks.
Walter Matthau
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Northeastmonk
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It makes me feel bad seeing people buy a $300-$400 switch for Zelda just to have the console be a brick once the next console comes out. I’m already kind of burned about the VC on the 3DS and Wii U. They had solid GBA, N64, SNES, and etc available to play. Now it’s all behind a paywall.
It’s like Nintendo gets upset if they see you with a SNES cartridge because they’d rather see you buy an online sub and play the game that way. Nintendo sold so many Switches after COVID and all those people are looking at another 2-3 years before it’s a legacy console. All my digital games from the Wii up until now is money down the drain if my storage unit becomes corrupted.
It’s like Nintendo gets upset if they see you with a SNES cartridge because they’d rather see you buy an online sub and play the game that way. Nintendo sold so many Switches after COVID and all those people are looking at another 2-3 years before it’s a legacy console. All my digital games from the Wii up until now is money down the drain if my storage unit becomes corrupted.
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NewYork214
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Wouldn't buy it if not. Would wait another nintendo gen like I use to if they skipped BC
Mr Branding
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Fuck Nintendolife. Even as a Nintendo fan, I hate their content.
March Climber
Gold Member
I don’t think it’s time yet for Nintendo to do The Great Reset.
I will laugh if it happens though.
Those of you who think ‘we have a digital library now, they can’t do that!’ underestimate Nintendo when it comes to them easily letting go of things whenever they feel like changing things up.
I will laugh if it happens though.
Those of you who think ‘we have a digital library now, they can’t do that!’ underestimate Nintendo when it comes to them easily letting go of things whenever they feel like changing things up.
darthkarki
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Do I want backwards compatibility? Of course, especially if they enhance Switch games. I really don't want to have to keep an older system around.
But will the system be successful without backwards compatibility? I'm sure it would be. I definitely don't think it needs it to be successful. I'm certainly going to get one either way, and I'm sure general audiences would too. The main point of getting the new system is for the new games.
Assuming the new system is basically a Switch 2 and doesn't do something super weird or confusing ala Wii U, then when it has a new Mario and Mario Kart and Zelda and Pokemon, etc. that are only on the new system, it's going to sell tons, regardless of BC.
But will the system be successful without backwards compatibility? I'm sure it would be. I definitely don't think it needs it to be successful. I'm certainly going to get one either way, and I'm sure general audiences would too. The main point of getting the new system is for the new games.
Assuming the new system is basically a Switch 2 and doesn't do something super weird or confusing ala Wii U, then when it has a new Mario and Mario Kart and Zelda and Pokemon, etc. that are only on the new system, it's going to sell tons, regardless of BC.
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Lucifers Beard
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Yes it’s essential, now someone tell those cunts to shut their fucking mouths before Nintendo start to get bright ideas.
so of course it doesn't need BC. It's still gonna sell great and nintendo fans will makes excuses and accept it
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
If the Switch 2 doesn't have BC, my interest in getting it will fall off a cliff. I'm sure I'll pick it up several years later, walking through Target or something and seeing it, but I have so, so many Switch games that I still need to play, why bother?
Gambit2483
Member
That's because they decided that "renting" their back catalog/legacy titles to the consumer was infinitely more profitable than selling them piecemeal every new generation (or worse, letting you actually keep them every new generation).
SegaSnatcher
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While it doesn't need it, it will have it.
Buggy Loop
Member
Nintendolife probably already preparing the userbase for the inevitable.
Rumours a few months ago had said it's not the same cartridge so, bye bye BC.
That means Switch is probably the last console I bought.
Rumours a few months ago had said it's not the same cartridge so, bye bye BC.
That means Switch is probably the last console I bought.
DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
Member
If it has BC that enhances original Switch games then it would be a no brainer purchase for me. Otherwise, the only thing that could possibly tempt me is if Prime 4 is actually real and Switch 2 exclusive.
Shake Your Rump
Gold Member
Does it ”need” backwards compatibility? Obviously not. We went through the NES, SNES, N64, and GameCube over the span of 15 years without compatibility.
I’d love OG Switch games to all run at a solid 60fps, though.
I’d love OG Switch games to all run at a solid 60fps, though.
zeldaring
Banned
Agreed this article was done for a reason. They probably have word Nintendo is not doing Bc and with the security features they mentioned it really paints a no bc picture.
Morrie’s wig shop
Member
The Wii U was backcompat, im sure this will also because it will using carts…..right??
Shake Your Rump
Gold Member
Please explain. Will Nintendo push a firmware update that powers the console off permanently?
There are over 4000 Switch games. There are almost 1200 Switch games rated 75 or higher on metacritic. Even if production of all Switch games ceased immediately, you would never run out of games to play.
What is with you people? Imagine it’s 1990 and you are ignoring the SNES because it doesn’t play NES games.
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it might become only the second Nintendo console I don’t own then because that would be some horseshit
Hayabusa83
Banned
Nintendo fans will still get on their knees and beg for their next Nintendo load.
zeldaring
Banned
Lol comparing switch 2 to super nes. We are not in the 90s and bc is a huge reason to buy current consoles also switch or switch 2 is nothing like the nes or super nes. They dominated the industry they had almost every third party game and the most powerful consoles.
Northeastmonk
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Every console has a large list of games. They appeal as eye candy the moment they’re announced. Yeah, you can play BotW or Mario Odyssey now, but those games would sure look better running on better hardware. Hardware that doesn’t charge you again for the game or one that can also play the next big entry. Assume you already bought a Switch and you bought this new Switch model; you’re a collector and you’re ok with that. What about people who want the next Mario or some other big game, but they spent their video game budget on a Switch? You could be playing at all times of day, but you’re not. You’re playing when Fire Emblem comes out or when Bayonetta comes out. You aren’t going to settle because Bayonetta 1 and 2 came out. Here’s a thing I think about: I still remember buying and playing that game on an even older console. Another big example would be Monster Hunter. It’s good if you sink your teeth into it, but what about the person who is lttp? Wouldn’t it be nice to invest that much into something that won’t get rushed out the door? Not just because it has 4000 titles.
The moment they announce some special Mario, Zelda or Metroid for next gen, you’re not thinking about the Switch.
These are all different scenarios, but what about this. You sell your switch and your backlog of Switch digital titles. FOMO wears off and you go back to your collection and you realize they’re gonna try and sell you the same games you already purchased or worse they’ll deliver to you a cherry picked list behind a paywall.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Gold Member
The issue is the storefronts and whatnot eventually go down and are taken offline and the system is a brick other than old media playing on it, *if it still turns on. And patches for physical media would also be unavailable.
BC is a must in this day & age.
It’s not like GBA or GameCube or PS2 where games launched on a disc and were never updated again.
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Shifty1897
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I hope this Gavin Lane guy takes a Skip-It to the shin for this.
Keihart
Member
maybe they can sell you Zelda Tiktok HD on switch 2...idk, they could just say fuck it and not include it.
i wish it has it tho, it was bad enough how playstation said fuck it to my psp, psx and ps2 classics library this gen already....can't even push those old games downloads from web to my old devices and dont you even dare want them on you shiny PS5.
but what chu gonna do, you keep buying ports and remasters of old ass games and they want your money. At least xbox has it but why would anyone with a PC buy that shit.
i wish it has it tho, it was bad enough how playstation said fuck it to my psp, psx and ps2 classics library this gen already....can't even push those old games downloads from web to my old devices and dont you even dare want them on you shiny PS5.
but what chu gonna do, you keep buying ports and remasters of old ass games and they want your money. At least xbox has it but why would anyone with a PC buy that shit.
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DownLikeBCPowder
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Of course it's not going to be the same cartridge - they're going to need more space. But using a different cartridge doesn't mean it won't be backwards compatible. The 3DS used different carts than the DS, or at least physically different, but the slot accommodated for both types.
belmarduk
Member
"Due to Nintendo's desire to resell you the game you've already bough, BC doesn't make sense"
Exactly this... but nobody bought Wii U games and they couldn't have done the Switch with a disc drive. I've bought a remake one time and that was Twilight Princess because it had a cool amiibo that came with it.
Walter Matthau
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I don’t think anyone at Nintendolife has any real inside knowledge. Pretty sure they wrote it for clicks.
