Switch 2: Sony says PS5 performance required for ‘great experience on a big screen’

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Speaking during a Sony business segment meeting on Friday, Sony Interactive Entertainment's new president and CEO, Hideaki Nishino, was asked if he was concerned that Switch 2's improved specs and Nintendo's improved relationships with third-party publishers would provide tougher competition for PlayStation in the coming years.

"We closely monitor the overall gaming industry, including the actions of other market participants," he responded. "Additionally, catalysts in the market are great for the industry as a whole, as they invigorate the excitement and demand more broadly. So it's great to have people launching new things.

"However, as I mentioned previously, we have a differentiated strategy. PlayStation 5 is designed for an immersive gaming experience, and this includes the innovative DualSense controller features as well. We believe PS5-level performance is required to achieve a great experience on big screens. And in this way, we have provided a unique offering for players and creators in this current console generation."

He continued: "However, publisher strategies are increasingly shifting towards being multi-platform, so more platforms can run the same game, which is great from a creator's perspective. Among those platforms, our mission is that we will continue to be the best place to play and publish."
 
In other words "Nintendo is doing their thing, and that's cool. We're doing our thing."
 
Pimpbaa said:
While Sony doesn't have much going on at the moment, a Switch 1 port of an overpriced standalone expansion isn't the best example of a great experience on the big screen for the Switch 2.
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I don't think your description of TotK is accurate, and it looks awesome on my 98" tv. Sony is wrong here, and frankly, it sounds scared and defensive.
 
Pimpbaa said:
While Sony doesn't have much going on at the moment, a Switch 1 port of an overpriced standalone expansion isn't the best example of a great experience on the big screen for the Switch 2.
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I take that over Sony completely stopping making games I enjoy and have to pay extra money to play physical copy of the games already own.
 
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I mean it's obvious why they would say that about their product vs their competitor's.

Can't say I agree though; I had great big screen experiences even on Switch 1.
 
Dr Bass said:
I don't think your description of TotK is accurate, and it looks awesome on my 98" tv. Sony is wrong here, and frankly, it sounds scared and defensive.
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It's a port of a Switch 1 game that uses the vast majority of its assets from the previous game. Still doesn't make it sound any better. I want a new Zelda game, not a port of game that uses warmed over content from the previous game. Fucking tired of lazy sequels from EVERYONE (part of Sony's problem this gen).
 
depends on what you categorise as "great".

I think these days you almost need an RTX5090 for s "great" experience, given that developers have no issue running sub 1080p on consoles that are used on 4k TVs.
 
Dr Bass said:
I don't think your description of TotK is accurate, and it looks awesome on my 98" tv. Sony is wrong here, and frankly, it sounds scared and defensive.
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You can troll better
Mister Wolf said:
Is it? I'm having a blast playing TOTK on Switch 2.
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I'm happy for you. I do this too on my PC, but with VRR and native 4K120. Your point?

I mean, Switch 2 is a solid portable device, but both Hogwarts Legacy and Cyberpunk 2077 are better off on PS5 Pro on any modern big TV screen. Trying to say otherwise is pure cope, like saying that PS Protal is a better way to play said games on the go.
 
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Danjin44 said:
I take that over Sony completely stopping making games I enjoy and have to pay extra money to play physical copy of the games already own.
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Troll better. Nintendo are charging people 70 bucks for a breath of the wild switch 2 version when that game originally came out on the wii u. Nintendo are also charging people more money to play old games and using the excuse that 'it's upgraded for switch 2' when all they did is raise the resolution and framerate for crying out loud.
 
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That's just PR speech. Of course you can have a great experience on TV with the Switch 2. Must have imagined playing the Last of Us 2 on the PS4 on the TV and the Switch 2 is more powerful than the PS4. If anything I was more disappointed by Doom TDA visually than I was Eternal.
 
Such immersive gaming that most of your titles in production were GaaS before you canned them. And they need to stop glazing the dualsense. Its a great controller, but its great because its comfy, not because of its vibration features which is so 2020.
 
Panajev2001a said:
Of course you can, but they think you will have a better one on PS5. So :)?
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Its will not be as good as the PS5 Pro but that's not what he said. He said the power of the PS5 is REQUIRED for a great big screen experience. Which is nonsense. You will have a better big screen experience on the PS5 but that doesn't sound as good. I personally wouldn't buy a AAA on the Switch 2 instead of the PS5/Series X but the next Zelda, Mario will look really on good on the TV. Just look at the Ratchet and Clank Remake on the PS4. He is saying that the PS4 isn't capable of a great TV experience.
 
Madserb2023 said:
Its will not be as good as the PS5 Pro but that's not what he said. He said the power of the PS5 is REQUIRED for a great big screen experience. Which is nonsense. You will have a better big screen experience on the PS5 but that doesn't sound as good. I personally wouldn't buy a AAA on the Switch 2 instead of the PS5/Series X but the next Zelda, Mario will look really on good on the TV. Just look at the Ratchet and Clank Remake on the PS4. He is saying that the PS4 isn't capable of a great TV experience.
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No, he is not saying that, that is your read of it. Of course there is some of experience requires that makes the experience level referenced a sliding window. PS1 had groundbreaking 3D visuals when it came out, but it is not the level of power meant for TV gameplay anymore.
 
Okay, let's break that statment:

PS5 is designed for an immersive gaming experience, and this includes the innovative DualSense controller features as well.
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"Immersive" is vague. Switch 2 delivers its own powerful immersion through unique gameplay, portability, and improved graphics. Not just raw power or haptics. Sony is just pointing to their tech as the only path to "immersion."

We believe PS5-level performance is required to achieve a great experience on big screens.
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This is a self-serving bullshit. Switch 2 offers a genuinely great big-screen experience, with significantly improved visuals and performance over the original Switch, without matching the PS5's raw power. Sony is trying to dictate what a "great experience" means to exclusively fit their product.

And in this way, we have provided a unique offering for players and creators in this current console generation.
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"Unique" is inflated. PS5 has its strengths but Switch defining hybrid nature and seamless portable and big-screen play is the truly distinct and fundamentally different offering and Switch 2 continues that unique form factor. PS5 is largely an upgraded traditional console.
 
hemo memo said:
Switch 2 offers a genuinely great big-screen experience
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With HDMI 2.0 output in a year 2025. Sure. bud.

The level of Nintendo copium here is something else. Is it so hard to accept that the two console platforms are making their own things where Sony is pushing the blockbuster experience and Nintendo is being Nintendo? Tha's what the quote basically says.
 
IbizaPocholo said:
Article:
Speaking during a Sony business segment meeting on Friday, Sony Interactive Entertainment's new president and CEO, Hideaki Nishino, was asked if he was concerned that Switch 2's improved specs and Nintendo's improved relationships with third-party publishers would provide tougher competition for PlayStation in the coming years.

"We closely monitor the overall gaming industry, including the actions of other market participants," he responded. "Additionally, catalysts in the market are great for the industry as a whole, as they invigorate the excitement and demand more broadly. So it's great to have people launching new things.

"However, as I mentioned previously, we have a differentiated strategy. PlayStation 5 is designed for an immersive gaming experience, and this includes the innovative DualSense controller features as well. We believe PS5-level performance is required to achieve a great experience on big screens. And in this way, we have provided a unique offering for players and creators in this current console generation."

He continued: "However, publisher strategies are increasingly shifting towards being multi-platform, so more platforms can run the same game, which is great from a creator's perspective. Among those platforms, our mission is that we will continue to be the best place to play and publish."
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PS5: Nintendo says The Switch 2 doesn't care.
 
Panajev2001a said:
No, he is not saying that, that is your read of it. Of course there is some of experience requires that makes the experience level referenced a sliding window. PS1 had groundbreaking 3D visuals when it came out, but it is not the level of power meant for TV gameplay anymore.
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Firstly that's what he said and this could ba a translation issue but that's quite a literal statement. Secondly, I think most people here would say that this generation hasn't really been a significant improvement over the last. I am sure Ghost of Yotei will be better than the previous game but I doubt by much and it certainly was awesome on the PS4 at the time and I reiterate, the Switch 2 is more powerful than the PS4. You could have potentially made this statement about the PS1 and PS2 but not now. I actually think Doom 2016 is better than the new game for example.
 
Switch 2 is absolutely trash compared to the PS5 on a big screen. When I saw No Man's Sky and Hitman run at 30-40 FPS on Switch 2 I quickly realized I'll still get plenty of use out of my PS5.

Its only been a week so I know people still have all these warm and fuzzy feelings for their new toy but reality is gonna start sinking in as time goes on.
 
Miles708 said:
"Please don't stop buying PS5's now that there's actual competition ok?"
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Where is that competition?
Certainly not Switch 2, since most publishers are ignoring it as usual.
If Xbox couldn't compete, it's not recycled Mario/Zelda games that will be real competition.
Sony doesn't even need to make 1st party games to be on top, they stay there for lack of real alternatives.
 
Madserb2023 said:
Firstly that's what he said and this could ba a translation issue but that's quite a literal statement. Secondly, I think most people here would say that this generation hasn't really been a significant improvement over the last. I am sure Ghost of Yotei will be better than the previous game but I doubt by much and it certainly was awesome on the PS4 at the time and I reiterate, the Switch 2 is more powerful than the PS4. You could have potentially made this statement about the PS1 and PS2 but not now. I actually think Doom 2016 is better than the new game for example.
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You are now branching in multiple directions there. What can people not make a statement about? That PS5 is not more powerful than PS4?!? Come on mate…
 
Ar¢tos said:
Where is that competition?
Certainly not Switch 2, since most publishers are ignoring it as usual.
If Xbox couldn't compete, it's not recycled Mario/Zelda games that will be real competition.
Sony doesn't even need to make 1st party games to be on top, they stay there for lack of real alternatives.
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You greatly underestimate Nintendo's brand power and Nintendo fans total blind faith and deep pockets.
 
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He is technically right, lower fidelity graphic look worse on a big ass screen at 4k.

The fucking duals sense tho? As gimmicky as the switch while lacking most important features like quality sticks and triggers, back buttons and not dogshit battery life, so gtfo.
 
Ar¢tos said:
Where is that competition?
Certainly not Switch 2, since most publishers are ignoring it as usual.
If Xbox couldn't compete, it's not recycled Mario/Zelda games that will be real competition.
Sony doesn't even need to make 1st party games to be on top, they stay there for lack of real alternatives.
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The console has been out a week...
 
Sony's right there, imho ofc. Unless you're into blocky static mush or simplified comic graphics you simply need power.
Even the ps5 already looks very underwhelming if you bring the pc into the comparison. The switch or switch 2 on a big screen is just..yuck.
 
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Of course they'll say that, and of course they'll put the baseline at Ps5-level hardware because that's all they can deliver right now. Nothing but PR talk.
 
Panajev2001a said:
You are now branching in multiple directions there. What can people not make a statement about? That PS5 is not more powerful than PS4?!? Come on mate…
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It is is more powerful but that has nothing to do with being required for anything these days. I think its pretty obvious what I am saying. The last 10 years has been quite static especially from a gameplay perspective. Maybe Sega could have made a statement like this with the Dreamcast when it came out, claiming that you needed it for certain experiences that you couldn't get on the PlayStation as you did have big fundamental differences back then between generations. However, RDR2 for instance could easily run on the Switch 2 and I still don't think I have played a better open world gane since. I don't see how what I am saying is so so hard to understand and you will see it in the sales.
 
Miles708 said:
You greatly underestimate Nintendo's brand power and Nintendo fans total blind faith and deep pockets.
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I meant competition, mainly, in the AAA game variety offer (we know hardware sales are always going to be good for a Nintendo device).
Murdoch said:
The console has been out a week...
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And how many upcoming AAA games from 3rd party publishers were announced for it?
 
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Ar¢tos said:
I meant competition, mainly, in the AAA game variety offer (we know hardware sales are always going to be good for a Nintendo device).

And how many upcoming AAA games from 3rd party publishers were announced for it?
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Is this the first console launch you've observed?
 
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