That was the only good part! Those episodes are the ones in which the MMO element was played upon the most and that was the only good thing about the show. Everything after that descended into melodrama. That AI pixie daughter foolishness was really the beginning of the end.
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hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
R_thanatos
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They removed almost all the MMO talk and plenty of events in the second part ..( seriously it had plenty ) Alfhiem has plenty of MMO ideas that are unexploited this will become obvious when a second season is done because they will focus on those
But without the "if I die in the game, I die in real life!" Deconstruction, it's way less interesting. Why should I care about pking and dungeon raids without the real world consequences?
Dedication Through Light
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But GGO proves otherwise, at least as of my intro reading to it? Accel World too?
R_thanatos
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3rd arc has plenty of real death and real life consequences.
4th arc is almost entirely on real life consequences regardings Mmos
Vincent Alexander
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Just finished. My thoughts echo many that have been stated already, so I'll keep it short.
-Once Kirito and Asuna got together, the first arc felt rushed. And wow, did they have to have these two cry every damn episode after they got together?
-Second arc was awful. No tension existed. There was a ticking time bomb in place for the wedding in real life, but they kind of dropped that idea instead of hammering you with it. I guess they had to drop it though---if they didn't, it wouldn't make sense why Kirito was doing half the shit he was doing...like helping out at an alliance meeting. Doesn't seem to important in the grand scheme of things when you consider he is wasting time that can be spent saving the woman he loves, whom is undoubtedly going to be raped in real life.
-And what the Hell with the incest but not really incest but still pretty much incest shit?
-Second arc was awful. No tension existed. There was a ticking time bomb in place for the wedding in real life, but they kind of dropped that idea instead of hammering you with it. I guess they had to drop it though---if they didn't, it wouldn't make sense why Kirito was doing half the shit he was doing...like helping out at an alliance meeting. Doesn't seem to important in the grand scheme of things when you consider he is wasting time that can be spent saving the woman he loves, whom is undoubtedly going to be raped in real life.
-And what the Hell with the incest but not really incest but still pretty much incest shit?
R_thanatos
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Helping the meeting
was just a little side trip on his way , and besides it's not like he wasn't involved already since they were attacked just before..
Helping had plenty of benefits starting from helping someone powerfull in this world ( you know gathering information and allies in case something happens because it was stated that ultimately all factions have the sale goal[top of the tree])
Helping at the meeting had nothing but benefits , and those advantage were felt in the last part since they came to help when he was attempting the impossible challenge..
As for the Incest ,
Helping had plenty of benefits starting from helping someone powerfull in this world ( you know gathering information and allies in case something happens because it was stated that ultimately all factions have the sale goal[top of the tree])
Helping at the meeting had nothing but benefits , and those advantage were felt in the last part since they came to help when he was attempting the impossible challenge..
As for the Incest ,
the answer is simple ...there is no incest except the delusion of the single girl that was quickly shut down twice ... if you think about it kirito is thinking about asuna and nothing else
I'm just imagining Eve Online as I read through this sentence.
Sword Art Online is like my anime equivalent of Dexter. I'll watch it, regardless of its quality and the pain it brings me, since I already invested too much into the show.
Chairmanchuck
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Sure. But you have to wonder, why this seems such a "fetish" for japanese. Especially in Anime/Manga it seems kinda forced besides some serious ones like Koi Kaze.
Wiktor
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I'm surprised nobody posted news about the novels getting licensed by Yen Press.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...l-world-light-novels-more-madoka-magica-manga
Same with Accel World books.
Will you guys be reading them? I'm not sure about SAO ones, at least the initial ones. I will propably pick up those that happen after the first arc though.
Accel is much more tempting, as while reading I might be able to convince myself the main hero isn't a fat dwarf
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...l-world-light-novels-more-madoka-magica-manga
Same with Accel World books.
Will you guys be reading them? I'm not sure about SAO ones, at least the initial ones. I will propably pick up those that happen after the first arc though.
Accel is much more tempting, as while reading I might be able to convince myself the main hero isn't a fat dwarf
R_thanatos
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i know the story of the books like the back of my hand ..so i'll be reading them i think ?
Lee Chaolan
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So I just finished episode 12.
Here's a double spoiler warning for you guys. From both SA:O AND Virtue's Last Reward, so here goes
This is my first time watching the series. I'm really enjoying it. I'm scared though, because I heard once episode 14 goes by the show turns to crap. I see those Fairy wings design, and I really dislike it compared to how the first 12 have looked so far. =/
Here's a double spoiler warning for you guys. From both SA:O AND Virtue's Last Reward, so here goes
Holy shit, Yui was like Luna from VLR! Went Rogue, and as a result got deleted ;__; Damn, tears for both instances, well done.
This is my first time watching the series. I'm really enjoying it. I'm scared though, because I heard once episode 14 goes by the show turns to crap. I see those Fairy wings design, and I really dislike it compared to how the first 12 have looked so far. =/
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
I hope a new season comes out.
So I just started watching this. It's a real shame how females are portrayed in this. Then again, I guess that's not just limited to SAO, but animes in general. Sure, there are exceptions.
Furthermore, can someone explain how the creator did not get arrested immediately after the first deaths came to be and forced to shut down the project? The only way I can explain this is that people don't really die and this is some sort of psychological experiment, where everyone but the gamers are in the know. But that would be stupid. This has really been the biggest plot hole in my opinion.
Edit: It could be that the creator is in the game itself and can't log out, but how did he get ahold of those newspaper articles stating the deaths of many gamers?
Plus, I sure as hell hope the issue of the physical body needing clinical care etc. is being addressed somewhere down the line.
And IMO the characters act all happy and carefree way too soon after they've just been told that they're basically prisoners in the game and when they die, they'll die in real life. This somehow doesn't add up. The atmosphere should be depressing as hell.
Furthermore, can someone explain how the creator did not get arrested immediately after the first deaths came to be and forced to shut down the project? The only way I can explain this is that people don't really die and this is some sort of psychological experiment, where everyone but the gamers are in the know. But that would be stupid. This has really been the biggest plot hole in my opinion.
Edit: It could be that the creator is in the game itself and can't log out, but how did he get ahold of those newspaper articles stating the deaths of many gamers?
Plus, I sure as hell hope the issue of the physical body needing clinical care etc. is being addressed somewhere down the line.
And IMO the characters act all happy and carefree way too soon after they've just been told that they're basically prisoners in the game and when they die, they'll die in real life. This somehow doesn't add up. The atmosphere should be depressing as hell.
I thought Asuna for the most part was one of the more stronger women I've seen in an anime( not including the second part).
What part are you guys on with the english version?
Most of the questions will be answered. And i think the atmosphere was gloomy at first, but then there was a time skip, so everything settled by then.
Don't take this series too seriously (pun intended), and enjoy it like a lite love story it is. It doesn't try to be any more than that anyway. It's very enjoyable.
R_thanatos
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Why did the creator not get arrested ?
-ask that question after the first arc is done and i'll answer it.
How are the psysical bodies ?
-answered in the anime.
The atmosphere hsould be depressing as hell.
-It was . most players didn't do a thing and stayed in the starting city, 1 person even did suicide to escape. It was untill the event of ep 2 ( that proved that beating a floor boss was possible ) that people tried to play..kirito heading into the fields to get a starting advantage was an exception not the rule.
SonicX_Zero
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A teaser came out a while ago, I dont know if it was shown after the extra edition since I'm still in the middle of watching it but nonetheless I'm looking forward to season 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLb0ZF08b7k&feature=share&list=UUDb0peSmF5rLX7BvuTcJfCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLb0ZF08b7k&feature=share&list=UUDb0peSmF5rLX7BvuTcJfCw
So, I don't watch a lot anime, but few days ago I got cruncyroll app/account for my Ps4 (just for fun).
This show "sword art online" was in the cruncyroll main page, I remember SAO from old neogaf anime threads where people were saying: "this is the worst anime of the year 2012..."
I don't know what anime is good or bad. Though I wanted to see was SAO really that bad.
First few EPs, this is pretty cool, but I don't get why there is so many "waifus".
Now I finished episodes 14-15 in a row. Not to give spoilers, but it was hard to watch.
Maybe I'm a pussy, but I cried a little bit. Its so incredibly cheesy romance stuff, not sure what to think.
I like this anime quite a lot. Dunno why everyone seems to hate it.
This show "sword art online" was in the cruncyroll main page, I remember SAO from old neogaf anime threads where people were saying: "this is the worst anime of the year 2012..."
I don't know what anime is good or bad. Though I wanted to see was SAO really that bad.
First few EPs, this is pretty cool, but I don't get why there is so many "waifus".
Now I finished episodes 14-15 in a row. Not to give spoilers, but it was hard to watch.
Maybe I'm a pussy, but I cried a little bit. Its so incredibly cheesy romance stuff, not sure what to think.
I like this anime quite a lot. Dunno why everyone seems to hate it.
TurbulentTurtle
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Anime hipsters.
I liked the anime a lot and highly recommend it to people who are into this kinda of genre.
I liked the anime a lot and highly recommend it to people who are into this kinda of genre.
Acrylic7
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Tons of potential but pretty bad imo. Especially the Elf game Arc.
There is no story other than, ''I'm trapped in a game''. And the second arc is beyond pointless. I dont even know why there is a second arc. They should have easily been able to make more episodes of the first, if it actually had any story to work with lol.
There is no story other than, ''I'm trapped in a game''. And the second arc is beyond pointless. I dont even know why there is a second arc. They should have easily been able to make more episodes of the first, if it actually had any story to work with lol.
strangedopamine
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You've only just entered Alfheim so the show doesn't get noticeably bad until now. It goes properly downhill culminating in the one/two punch of Episodes 21 and 24.
Started watching the show a few days ago.
Really enjoyed it... at first. The first 9 or so episodes were really, really good. But then the pace slowed down quite substantially.
I don't know - I'm a few episodes into the Alfheim arc and I suppose I am still enjoying it. But I just don't know why they chose to
I think the show did a good job of showing how peopled adapted to life in a virtual world, but now all of that is gone with the second arc. And the romance stuff and drastic increase in fan service scenes is concerning.
Sigh.
Really enjoyed it... at first. The first 9 or so episodes were really, really good. But then the pace slowed down quite substantially.
Then they started with this AI character who calls the two main characters mommy and daddy. Ok.... I can deal with that. But then Kirito beats the game randomly.
I don't know - I'm a few episodes into the Alfheim arc and I suppose I am still enjoying it. But I just don't know why they chose to
have a second MMORPG. The entire series should have taken place in SAO - it was an interesting world with tons of potential and stories to tell. Hell, you don't even know what happens to a bunch of characters. The twist of who the bad guy was was fine, but the story ultimately ended too soon and abruptly. Wish we got to see more of characters like Klein.
I think the show did a good job of showing how peopled adapted to life in a virtual world, but now all of that is gone with the second arc. And the romance stuff and drastic increase in fan service scenes is concerning.
Sigh.
I would believe that the main reason why the Aincrad stuff was rushed out was to get Alfheim out of the way with the quickness. To warn ya, Alfheim gets really stupid quick.
...Dat
plotline. Oh god.
Dat tentacle scene.
And I thought the shipping in Legend of Korra was bad.
EDIT: Well, its done. I think it was a huge missed opportunity - they should never have left SOA. They had so many stories they could tell in that world. And it never felt like we got a very good feel for Alfheim. But... I enjoyed it for what it was. The scene where
appears again was quite good. Honestly, the incest stuff was relatively well written, it was just really fucking stupid in concept. And I missed all the characters from the first arc.
incest
Dat tentacle scene.
And I thought the shipping in Legend of Korra was bad.
EDIT: Well, its done. I think it was a huge missed opportunity - they should never have left SOA. They had so many stories they could tell in that world. And it never felt like we got a very good feel for Alfheim. But... I enjoyed it for what it was. The scene where
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Razgriz-Specter
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You know I never really cared much while watching the show but I recently opened the Figmas of Asuna and Kirito and it made me realize how insanely dull Kirito's design is.
Asuna's on the other hand is a pretty nice design.
Asuna's on the other hand is a pretty nice design.
lazybones18
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Branduil pls. It was a great comedy though.
Anime: SWO arc too rushed. ALO arc too incestuous, too much potential wasted, lost a lot of tension right after SWO. Would have been fine if SWO was 16 eps and ALO was 8.
Books: GGO brings back a small aspect of SWO:
possibility of death
cross-dresser
Alicerization arc feels like the anime SWO should have been.
Winding up in a world without knowing how you got there. Being really good, but not the best, in a non Deus-Ex-Machina way (although finding the sword was such bullshit). Learning from an original inhabitant, making it through an academy for martial arts etc. Story is way more fleshed out, with sinister things a brewin'.
R_thanatos
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True the sister part of ALo was trully overdone in ALO.. it isn't that obvious in the books but in the anime it feel like a legitimate will of the author when it trully isn't.
The alice saga ( witch is a season 3 anime spoiler at best ) is much much more well done in term of world setting to the point where i was confusing in the first volume of that saga because it felt like the author decided to start over ... we have a new world , an entire new cast , new rules , and a real race over time before death all with spices of conspiracies and betrayals ...without a doubt the BEST arc ever from thsi author ( and i'm including the accel world series in thsi statement )
I finished SAO in just a day and I really enjoyed it. Sure, "objectively" maybe it's not the greatest show. But idealistic anime such as SAO always get to me on some level because we don't live in an ideal world.
Everything about this anime is wish fulfillment, but oh well. Reminded me of 5 Centimeters per Second in a way, where we don't always get what we want and how that hurts. In this case we don't get the idealized virtual world that Kirito lives in, whereas 5CM was realistic and hit closer to home.
I like to just pretend Episode 15 and onwards does not exist...
Everything about this anime is wish fulfillment, but oh well. Reminded me of 5 Centimeters per Second in a way, where we don't always get what we want and how that hurts. In this case we don't get the idealized virtual world that Kirito lives in, whereas 5CM was realistic and hit closer to home.
I like to just pretend Episode 15 and onwards does not exist...
If it had ended before Alfheim, I would have been much more positive about it, aside from the weird waifu shit in the later half of season 1. Objectively the show may not be great, as the poster above mentioned, but I still enjoyed it.
Hell, I enjoyed season 2 as well, but I had to acknowledge that I was watching trash.
Hell, I enjoyed season 2 as well, but I had to acknowledge that I was watching trash.
Hyrule Warrior
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I'm not an avid anime watcher I must admit...I've only watched some older shows like Dragon Ball Z, Cowboy Bebop, and bits and pieces of stuff like Love Hina. I'm older, so newer anime just hasn't fit into my time as much as it could have if I were younger.
Anyway, I wanted to post in here just because I needed to express how I've been feeling as I started watching SAO... I mainly started checking out this show, because when I saw the game available for Vita on my PS TV, I was interested in trying the game based on what it looked like from screens and such. Then I heard it was based on this anime, and that I should watch the show through episode 14, cuz that's when the game starts. Haven't watched an anime in a long long time, but I figured I'd give it a try.
I don't hate anime by any means, I like a lot of games from Japan, and games that have an anime art style are often appealing to me. However, this show....man I dunno. I can deal with movies, shows and games based in a fantasy world, where the norms, and common sense of reality do not apply completely. That being said though, the fact that this is some MMO game setting, and what's been going on just takes me out of the show so fucking bad that it's driving me crazy when the leaps in logic know no bounds.
From the get go, the show was making me go "what the hell"...granted this doesn't take place in a typical PC MMO world, it's some crazy VR technology shit, so I'll buy that. What I don't buy is that it would be allowed to sold to market if it had any potential for life threatening consequences. A device that basically puts you into a coma basically. As soon as this evil game creator locked everyone in the world also...I call bull shit sooooo fucking much. They go for months and months, and no one would say....put a gun to guy's head and not force him to end his sick game within a week is beyond belief.
Also...video games are not made by one fucking guy...if one did just go evil to make people all locked in the world, he would not be able to maintain it, and if it's not just one guy...you're saying that the whole company would be okay going along with evil plans of locking people away in a virtual world where they can be killed? right...
I'm only up through episode 4, so I don't know the specifics of where the story goes, but like I said, it's just so hard to enjoy when my suspension of disbelief is stretched so thin. In episode 4, Kirito talks about how some people still play the MMO as if it was just a game, and some people go bad, and become player killers...Give me a fucking break. If anyone were stupid enough to behave like that, most people would not tolerate it. I would think that if this unlikely situation ever happened, that most people in the game world would ban together entirely to get out of it as fast as they could, and not keep playing by the rules as if it was still just a game.
/sigh
I'm sorry, I don't mean to come in here and bash this show for people in this thread that might enjoy it...but this is shit I just can't help but think about every time I watch an episode, and it ruins my enjoyment of it. I can't turn my brain off to ignore such obvious crap.
Anyway, I wanted to post in here just because I needed to express how I've been feeling as I started watching SAO... I mainly started checking out this show, because when I saw the game available for Vita on my PS TV, I was interested in trying the game based on what it looked like from screens and such. Then I heard it was based on this anime, and that I should watch the show through episode 14, cuz that's when the game starts. Haven't watched an anime in a long long time, but I figured I'd give it a try.
I don't hate anime by any means, I like a lot of games from Japan, and games that have an anime art style are often appealing to me. However, this show....man I dunno. I can deal with movies, shows and games based in a fantasy world, where the norms, and common sense of reality do not apply completely. That being said though, the fact that this is some MMO game setting, and what's been going on just takes me out of the show so fucking bad that it's driving me crazy when the leaps in logic know no bounds.
From the get go, the show was making me go "what the hell"...granted this doesn't take place in a typical PC MMO world, it's some crazy VR technology shit, so I'll buy that. What I don't buy is that it would be allowed to sold to market if it had any potential for life threatening consequences. A device that basically puts you into a coma basically. As soon as this evil game creator locked everyone in the world also...I call bull shit sooooo fucking much. They go for months and months, and no one would say....put a gun to guy's head and not force him to end his sick game within a week is beyond belief.
Also...video games are not made by one fucking guy...if one did just go evil to make people all locked in the world, he would not be able to maintain it, and if it's not just one guy...you're saying that the whole company would be okay going along with evil plans of locking people away in a virtual world where they can be killed? right...
I'm only up through episode 4, so I don't know the specifics of where the story goes, but like I said, it's just so hard to enjoy when my suspension of disbelief is stretched so thin. In episode 4, Kirito talks about how some people still play the MMO as if it was just a game, and some people go bad, and become player killers...Give me a fucking break. If anyone were stupid enough to behave like that, most people would not tolerate it. I would think that if this unlikely situation ever happened, that most people in the game world would ban together entirely to get out of it as fast as they could, and not keep playing by the rules as if it was still just a game.
/sigh
I'm sorry, I don't mean to come in here and bash this show for people in this thread that might enjoy it...but this is shit I just can't help but think about every time I watch an episode, and it ruins my enjoyment of it. I can't turn my brain off to ignore such obvious crap.
Ennosuke
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Currently watching this show. I finished the first arc and I think it was great. But now I have weird feelings about this new world where they are fairies and elves. But what really sickens me is this stupid onii chan thing, where his sister seems to be in deep love with him. Where is this going? It feels akward watching this.
I think Asuna and Kirito had a great story together. But I dont like the direction the show is heading. Of course I don't know it, but they are giving me clear signs. Not sure if I should continue watching this.
I think Asuna and Kirito had a great story together. But I dont like the direction the show is heading. Of course I don't know it, but they are giving me clear signs. Not sure if I should continue watching this.
The incest faerie arc is pretty bad.
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I lasted only 10 episodes. I wanted to like it but the pace was all over the place, the characters were terribly uni-dimensional, and it wasn't nearly as entertaining as people made it to be.
DeviantBoi
Member
Just finished watching this on Netflix and I loved it.
The first 15 were definitely much better than the last 10, but that's okay.
I'm not a fan of anime, but I decided to give this a try and I'm glad that I did.
I saw that SAO2 is on Crunchyroll, but I'd rather watch it dubbed, so I guess I'll wait.
Any other suggestions for me to watch? Something with a character similar as Kirito.
The first 15 were definitely much better than the last 10, but that's okay.
I'm not a fan of anime, but I decided to give this a try and I'm glad that I did.
I saw that SAO2 is on Crunchyroll, but I'd rather watch it dubbed, so I guess I'll wait.
Any other suggestions for me to watch? Something with a character similar as Kirito.
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