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Tales of Series | Community Thread | Localizing more games than Square Enix

Matchew

Member
How is Dawn of the New World by the way? Good story and gameplay? I played ToS back on GC liked it enough but not sure it's worth the $40 alone. But if Dawn is decent I might pick it up. Coming off just beating Xillia I'm wanting some more Tales of.
 
How is Dawn of the New World by the way? Good story and gameplay? I played ToS back on GC liked it enough but not sure it's worth the $40 alone. But if Dawn is decent I might pick it up. Coming off just beating Xillia I'm wanting some more Tales of.

Dawn is decent but has issues, core combat is pretty good but your mileage will vary on the monster system. Story is pretty bad held up by arguably the weakest lead duo in a Tales game Emile and Marta
 

FSLink

Banned
How is Dawn of the New World by the way? Good story and gameplay? I played ToS back on GC liked it enough but not sure it's worth the $40 alone. But if Dawn is decent I might pick it up. Coming off just beating Xillia I'm wanting some more Tales of.

It's pretty fun, but think of it like a spinoff because in lots of ways it is (budget, smaller subsystems, etc.). Story wise is also more of an extended epilogue/direct-to-dvd sequel than an actual full sequel so mileage may vary. It's still pretty fun but don't expect anything on the same quality of the first one.

If you can tolerate Emil and Marta (I didn't mind them too much even if they are heavily trope-y), story can be fun just for the extra Phantasia references. And the skits are pretty good too, and Tenebrae is one of the better animal partners in the series.
 

Levyne

Banned
You don't have party members? Just the monsters you recruit?

The main party building is the monsters you capture, outside of Emil and Marta.

You get the Symphonia cast as effectively "guests" periodically throughout the game, with all of them sticking around at the end. While they are good enough to beat the game with (I think), their levels are capped so they are not that useful for the post-game dungeons if you are interested in those.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
It's pretty fun, but think of it like a spinoff because in lots of ways it is (budget, smaller subsystems, etc.). Story wise is also more of an extended epilogue/direct-to-dvd sequel than an actual full sequel so mileage may vary. It's still pretty fun but don't expect anything on the same quality of the first one.
Still more tolerable than Graces F story.
 

FSLink

Banned
Still more tolerable than Graces F story.

Graces has fun skits at least. Graces and DotNW probably have some of the better ones in the series along with Vesperia. But yeah, I think the story's better in DotNW for sure even if stories in Tales are usually pretty mediocre.

Might just go with Graces instead. Thanks for the answers.

Yeah, good choice, I'm not sure if anybody would consider DotNW better than Graces (an actual mainline title) unless they really have it out for the story being bland.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Graces has fun skits at least. Graces and DotNW probably have some of the better ones in the series along with Vesperia. But yeah, I think the story's better in DotNW for sure even if stories in Tales are usually pretty mediocre.

Yeah, good choice, I'm not sure if anybody would consider DotNW better than Graces (an actual mainline title) unless they really have it out for the story being bland.

I dont think Tales of Series stories to be mediocre but purely cliche anime troopes for most of the part. There are a few that are actually good/decent despite still using the cliches but it works. The only offensive stories for me have to be Graces DotNW thanks to the leads and Tempest but everyone knows that game was just a nightmare that doesnt really exists. The rest are cliche but tolerable with a few that go above average.
 
The one thing that bothered me with DotNW was how floaty the battle system felt.

It also just felt off, even the impacts don't feel as strong as other Tales game.

Nevermind, how easy it is to break DotNW's battle system.
 

FSLink

Banned
I dont think Tales of Series stories to be mediocre but purely cliche anime troopes for most of the part. There are a few that are actually good/decent despite still using the cliches but it works. The only offensive stories for me have to be Graces DotNW thanks to the leads and Tempest but everyone knows that game was just a nightmare that doesnt really exists. The rest are cliche but tolerable with a few that go above average.

It's hard for me to think otherwise when Destiny 2 and Rebirth are also in the series' history, haha. Though yes, even the cliche ones like Symphonia are pretty fun stories despite having tons of tropes.

The one thing that bothered me with DotNW was how floaty the battle system felt.

It also just felt off, even the impacts don't feel as strong as other Tales game.

Nevermind, how easy it is to break DotNW's battle system.

The sound effects were pretty bad too. I'm not sure why they felt the need to deviate much from how Abyss had it when it's using the same engine.
 

Levyne

Banned
I remember not understanding the ending of DotNW at all when I first played it. The whole drama of the situation kept changing face and I couldn't make sense of it all at first. I remember playing it again and I kept track of everything more deliberately, and it made perfect sense!

And then I haven't thought about it for years so now I am clueless again,
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
It's hard for me to think otherwise when Destiny 2 and Rebirth are also in the series' history, haha. Though yes, even the cliche ones like Symphonia are pretty fun stories despite having tons of tropes.

Never played Rebirth to comment about it (still sad about it as the combat looks amazing) and Destiny 2 still doesn't touch the lows of Graces or DotNW.

Phantasia, Destiny, Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia and Xillia were good enough IMO.

Legendia is on the same realm with Tempest
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
The one thing that bothered me with DotNW was how floaty the battle system felt.

It also just felt off, even the impacts don't feel as strong as other Tales game.

Nevermind, how easy it is to break DotNW's battle system.

DotNW's battle system was much akin to an arcade game.
 

Szadek

Member
I have only played the PS3 tales of games.
The only great thing about Graces was the battlesystem,everything else was kind of meh.
Xillia was fantastic,I really want the sequel.
I'm getting Symphonia collection soon as well.

I'm still looking for a way to play Vesperia on my PS3.
Like together with a guide and a youtube walkthrough or something.
 
DotNW is weird because Emile's artes, skills, and combos really support him being an aerial combat specialist which is a really strange choice for a main character.
 

Vylash

Member
Symphonia Chronicles next tuesday, pretty excited since I haven't had the chance to play Symphonia, and I only made it about an hour or so into Dawn Of The New World
 
DotNW is weird because Emile's artes, skills, and combos really support him being an aerial combat specialist which is a really strange choice for a main character.

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Milla is more a jack of all trades though, she can do air, ground, and mage style and shift between them easily. This to me makes more sense for a main character as it allows the player to gravitate to whatever style of play suits them best. She is also the biggest exception to the rule as the majority of Tales main characters are all about close range high speed/damage combos (Stahn is probably the other closest exception with his Swordian). Also Milla is an option for MC alongside Jude who is more classic tales protagonist even if he uses fists instead of swords.

Also when you look at DotnW if you don't like Emile's aerial combat style you're kind of screwed because his ground game isn't anywhere near as good and you're only other option is Marta or whatever random guest you have. The one guest who'd probably be easiest to use is Lloyd and he joins right before the final boss and makes that fight harder thanks to his fire element.
 

oni_saru

Member
So I just finished Tales of Xillia. I really enjoyed it. It has me hyped for 2.

So when it was released I remember people on my TL and on gaf I think talking about some scene with Alvin and Jude and how the localization differed compared to what was originally said in the Japanese. I think something about the mood being different or something. I don't remember the details. Anyone remember that?

I wanted to see them now (since i finally finished the game) but I can't seem to find where this discussion took place. Anyone know what i'm talking about?
 

Soriku

Junior Member
No point in worrying yourselves over mobile titles when Zestiria is coming.

So I just finished Tales of Xillia. I really enjoyed it. It has me hyped for 2.

So when it was released I remember people on my TL and on gaf I think talking about some scene with Alvin and Jude and how the localization differed compared to what was originally said in the Japanese. I think something about the mood being different or something. I don't remember the details. Anyone remember that?

I wanted to see them now (since i finally finished the game) but I can't seem to find where this discussion took place. Anyone know what i'm talking about?

Any discussion would've taken place in either of Xillia's OTs.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442914

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638908

Also lol I just realized that kayos' moe avatar is up there in the banner in the English OT.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
What would be in it? Sweet Ludger statue? or maybe a plushy of his cat.
I expect similar to X1
Statue (maybe like Symphonia ones instead of Milla )
Dlc outfits
Artbook 50-70ish pages
OST sampler 16-20ish tracks
Premium Background
Tin Case
special packaging.
 

Yes! Time to dress up Ludger as Genis. Oh wait... Emil's tube top and scarf... alright...

I expect similar to X1
Statue (maybe like Symphonia ones instead of Milla )
Dlc outfits
Artbook 50-70ish pages
OST sampler 16-20ish tracks
Premium Background
Tin Case
special packaging.

I honestly would not mind another Milla statue if they offered it. My inner Otaku is showing isn't it.

$15 credit towards Tales of Asteria microtransactions.

lol...

:(
 

Levyne

Banned
I typically avoid CE/LEs at the moment mainly because all that /stuff/ would quickly clutter my medium size apartment. Once I get a house or larger place where I can dedicate some furnature for it. Would be cool to have a figure case or something.

So regular edition for me. Maybe whale all of the digital goods as well, against better judgment.
 
I typically avoid CE/LEs at the moment mainly because all that /stuff/ would quickly clutter my medium size apartment. Once I get a house or larger place where I can dedicate some furnature for it. Would be cool to have a figure case or something.

So regular edition for me. Maybe whale all of the digital goods as well, against better judgment.

Purchasing CE/LE's is becoming a bad habit for me. Though my room can accommodate cool shelves for nerdy figures and statues, I choose not to because I like my relatively clean and semi-minimalist thing I've got going.

If ToX2 english LE comes with a cat plushie, I'll be tempted to buy it.

If I don't get another Milla statue in her ToX2 costume, a cat plushie would do. What the hell am I saying, I'm gonna buy whatever it is... I'm a dumb consumer. The first step is to admit I have a problem.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Purchasing CE/LE's is becoming a bad habit for me. Though my room can accommodate cool shelves for nerdy figures and statues, I choose not to because I like my relatively clean and semi-minimalist thing I've got going.



If I don't get another Milla statue in her ToX2 costume, a cat plushie would do. What the hell am I saying, I'm gonna buy whatever it is... I'm a dumb consumer. The first step is to admit I have a problem.
*Sends Data to Namco*
 

FSLink

Banned
CE/LE's are lame unless they have one or more of the following:

1) Steelbook
2) Soundtrack, doesn't have to be the full thing, but this sample track bullshit with like 5 tracks need to stop. At least give us a full CD worth.
3) Artbook, same as above, ones as big as the game case are pretty lame. Give us a decent sized one that's hardcover.
4) Plushies
5) Cool in-game tie-ins like the Ni No Kuni Wizard book (one of the better LE's aside from stupid Digital River...which brings me to the next point)
6) Not store exclusive (fuck Digital River), give us at least Amazon and Gamestop as an option and some others.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
CE/LE's are lame unless they have one or more of the following:

1) Steelbook
2) Soundtrack, doesn't have to be the full thing, but this sample track bullshit with like 5 tracks need to stop. At least give us a full CD worth.
3) Artbook, same as above, ones as big as the game case are pretty lame. Give us a decent sized one that's hardcover.
4) Plushies
5) Cool in-game tie-ins like the Ni No Kuni Wizard book (one of the better LE's aside from stupid Digital River...which brings me to the next point)
6) Not store exclusive (fuck Digital River), give us at least Amazon and Gamestop as an option and some others.

To think Symphonia was almost Namco Store Exclusive ugh. Imo what they did with Symphonia CE was good. Maybe change the figures for plushies for X2 andit would be great. No mentions of Xillia novelization or anime movie or OVA sucks. Games lend themselves pretty well for that.

It would also be nice to have a making of dvd with subs tbh.
 

FSLink

Banned
And I forgot one...

7) No DLC unless it can be bought later on. I get that retailers want exclusive DLC and stuff to get people to buy from their store, but making it only ever available at launch is fucking dumb.
 
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