SteveWinwood
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so is it the near future yet
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Team Fortress 2 |OT4| Official Halo Thread of Polearms and High Fashion
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The Artful Dodger
Member
Valve Time.
Cloak and dagger is pretty terrible. Primarily because it encourages slow play, which leads to basically having 1 fewer player on your team.
Tough. Shouldn't have buffed everyone to have an anti-spy counter if they didn't want me to sneak around to backstab people.
The Claok and Dagger is the spy's anti-spy counter. It takes him out of the game just by equipping it! ;P
The Artful Dodger
Member
Lol. Agreed. It's only good for like comms to feed the other teams movment which is awesome in Highlander, not so much in pubs.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
There has always been a counter to spy. It's called "turning around."
So don't walk uncloaked behind somebody if you're actually trying to kill them.
But there is luck involved so DEAL WITH IT. There always has been, but at least now the maps aren't garbage for spy.
So don't walk uncloaked behind somebody if you're actually trying to kill them.
But there is luck involved so DEAL WITH IT. There always has been, but at least now the maps aren't garbage for spy.
SteveWinwood
Member
just because you keep saying this doesnt make it true
especially since you never seem to have any clue what youre talking about
youre dealing with like 6 years of changes all at once and you think you understand it
The Artful Dodger
Member
little miss gogo
Member
all i know is backburner needs that damage buff back and take the airblast away
things were perfect back then
things were perfect back then
afreaknamedpete
Member
The Phlog makes for a better W+M1 pyro anyways. I like the current backburner since you can airblast as an emergency but you can't spam it like the degreaser.
Collete
Member
Great for me, because at least I don't have to worry about the game at that point, just backstabs for days.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Great for me, because at least I don't have to worry about the game at that point, just backstabs for days.
You won't be stabbing anything. That is the joke.
little miss gogo
Member
c and d ain't that bad but it's definitely not the best for spy you guys need to chill out
for tru pr0-ness, use deadringer, spycicle, and enforcer for maximum pr0
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I used the Cloak and Dagger on koth maps before I just played scoot because I have to go fast.
CountAntonius
Member
I just discovered the wonderful world of custom hubs. I like the default Minimal hud in game but hate how cluttered the deathcam/main menu are.
afreaknamedpete
Member
Scouts are great fun until someone drops a mini sentry and then it's like hell on earth.
The Artful Dodger
Member
Or turning a corner and getting one shotted by a pill or random rocket.
EmCeeGramr
Member
on the other hand there is nothing more satisfying than running up on a fatty and meatshotting him while he trundles around in circles trying to see you
but on the first hand, Valve's Award Winning Netcode™ might kick in and he hits a millisecond before you fire the killing shot, and you die instantly because heavieslol
but on the first hand, Valve's Award Winning Netcode™ might kick in and he hits a millisecond before you fire the killing shot, and you die instantly because heavieslol
Hit registration/netcode applies to scouts too, and it's even worse since they're both faster and smaller than heavies.
Since he is working on something TF2 related he is probably working on Valve time. So the near future to him is like 2-3 months or more for us.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
"near future" doesn't make any sense really.
SteveWinwood
Member
will wait for near present
ClassyPenguin
Banned
I finished my first Winter item for this year, and am pretty pleased with it! It was the first time I tried a "noisy" texture like wool and tried to make it fit TF2.
Anyway, views are awesome, votes are friggin sweet, comments are lovely, and favorites are sogood.gif. Do all 4 and I probably owe you a blumpkin or something.
PS, I have to hop on the GAF server more and play. Im more caught up in making items than playing lately.
Anyway, views are awesome, votes are friggin sweet, comments are lovely, and favorites are sogood.gif. Do all 4 and I probably owe you a blumpkin or something.
PS, I have to hop on the GAF server more and play. Im more caught up in making items than playing lately.
CountAntonius
Member
I finished my first Winter item for this year, and am pretty pleased with it! It was the first time I tried a "noisy" texture like wool and tried to make it fit TF2.
Anyway, views are awesome, votes are friggin sweet, comments are lovely, and favorites are sogood.gif. Do all 4 and I probably owe you a blumpkin or something.
PS, I have to hop on the GAF server more and play. Im more caught up in making items than playing lately.
lol. Voted and liked. Well done.
The Cloak and Dagger is much better in conjunction with the Letranger: the bonus cloak time almost matches or possibly exceeds the default invisibility watch. You sacrifice firepower for the boost in cloak time, but the Cloak and Dagger is less an offensive watch and more a communications and key pick watch.
A lot of the time the Cloak and Dagger is used incorrectly, where the user is either crouch-walking everywhere while "permanently" invisible or used in a very aggressive manner that will get you killed. It should be used mostly for calling out positions, helping to organize pushes, and materializing at key moments during a push.
The Letranger gives you some more leeway to play a more traditional spy game of slinking around across the line getting picks and disappearing into thin air, but the reduced firepower means you're at even more of a disadvantage if engaged directly.
Generally, the Invisibility Watch is the better choice for all around spying, but for crucial plays the Cloak and Dagger can work very well. Certainly not a watch you'd want to run full time, but in certain situations it can give a big payoff.
A lot of the time the Cloak and Dagger is used incorrectly, where the user is either crouch-walking everywhere while "permanently" invisible or used in a very aggressive manner that will get you killed. It should be used mostly for calling out positions, helping to organize pushes, and materializing at key moments during a push.
The Letranger gives you some more leeway to play a more traditional spy game of slinking around across the line getting picks and disappearing into thin air, but the reduced firepower means you're at even more of a disadvantage if engaged directly.
Generally, the Invisibility Watch is the better choice for all around spying, but for crucial plays the Cloak and Dagger can work very well. Certainly not a watch you'd want to run full time, but in certain situations it can give a big payoff.
opticalmace
Member
I like using the dead ringer and spycicle personally. And to be extra annoying, typically the enforcer. :lol
SteveWinwood
Member
i like scout
and pyro
and pyro
DJ Crimson
Banned
I like throwing things.
CountAntonius
Member
Scout/Soldier/Sniper depending on the map and how I feel. Occasionally I'll use pyro/demo as well.
I enjoy mostly playing roaming Soldier and Demoknight with the Loose Cannon.
Basically. TF2 is all about dynamic speed, movement, and pushes, not waddling bullet-spraying turrets. Plenty of games cater to that style.
Basically. TF2 is all about dynamic speed, movement, and pushes, not waddling bullet-spraying turrets. Plenty of games cater to that style.
The Artful Dodger
Member
Pyro, sometimes scoot, with a bit of Demo.
Collete
Member
Come and TF2 with me again, so we can throw things.
And we can uber each other so we can battle medic together!
little miss gogo
Member
i main pyro. and pokemon. and more pokemon. then pyro again.
Sir Walter Taffy
Member
I played for about two hours last night with that EXACT set-up (and the Red-Tape Recorder for extra dick-ness)
SteveWinwood
Member
did they ever make the mini sentries not erect with full health right away?
cause that was dumb and broken
fuck minis
cause that was dumb and broken
fuck minis
afreaknamedpete
Member
Mini-sentries suck. The engineer totally doesn't need the extra +25 health just for using mini-sentries.
They fixed that
If you hit them early in their build you can kill them with one shot.
They're still annoying though.
opticalmace
Member
Holy shit, just discovered the greatness that is dead ringer + l'etranger. I can stay cloaked for soooo long. Amazing.