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[Bojji]

Hes a knowledgeable tech guy but his persona has shifted in recent years to just be a guy who complains at everything.

Haven't watched this video yet so I dont know if its warranted but ive found most of his whining isnt

What's wrong with whining when you are correct? Would he be better with MSI/Asus money on his account and praising those firms in every video?

He is 100% correct in this video. Tech companies are fucking all of us in the ass and at the same time US government if giving them (tax payers) money.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You also need a computer to even want to sign up for internet.


Smart tvs are computers, they have ram and everything, often in similar amounts to pcs from 4gb to 16gb

At this point, you only need a USB stick for the cloud.

 

[Topher]

Generally speaking, a computer needed to stream still meets the requirements to play games locally. In fact, smart tvs also allow you to download mobile apps and games that run on the hardware.

Sure. Mobile games have plenty of options in the home and won't be affected by any push to cloud. It is the PC and console games that I think is the concern. Either way, I don't think it really matters. Local gaming hardware will always be available.

 

[EN250]

Now would be a good time for China to flood the market with cheap RAM.

RAM is already coming from there and is bought en masse by giant tech companies, there's no dumping of cheap RAM as if it was shirts or somethig like that

 

[P:axMagellanic]

I've already written to congress members about the Intel money spent. Time to write another letter.
The amount of my tax money going to big tech, I want stopped.
I would rather buy cheap china than have my tax dollars go to buy another factory that doesn't produce things for ME.

Based.

aren't there US sanctions in place to stop them having the equipment to make modern chips?

They've allegedly hit 3nm with DUV this year, it's more expensive than EUV. But if anyone will drive costs down through the floor its the Chinese.

Hes a knowledgeable tech guy but his persona has shifted in recent years to just be a guy who complains at everything.

There's a lot to complain about.

This shit will hurt, and hurt hard next year.

 

[Sanepar]

If all you need is a TV to play games then no one will buy PC hardware... as a consequence no one will have a PC... as a consequence no one will need Windows... as a consequence MS will have screwed themselves.

Lol no? People nerds Pc for competitive games. Tvs Will play compressed 1080p @ 30 FPS and low settings

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is why Michael Pachter has been sucking MS tts like pathetic simp.

 

[Magic Carpet]

You also need a computer to even want to sign up for internet.


Smart tvs are computers, they have ram and everything, often in similar amounts to pcs from 4gb to 16gb

If it's like the local cable comapany you have to take off all afternoon from work, go to the local provider and stand in line.

 

[Guilty_AI]

If it's like the local cable comapany you have to take off all afternoon from work, go to the local provider and stand in line.

And i'm sure that'll be great for business.

 

[Saint Boot Gaming]

No Country for Old Men

thought so. been a while.

 

[yogaflame]

Is that bad?

 

[Putonahappyface]

Neither can they.

 

[StueyDuck]

What's wrong with whining when you are correct? Would he be better with MSI/Asus money on his account and praising those firms in every video?

He is 100% correct in this video. Tech companies are fucking all of us in the ass and at the same time US government if giving them (tax payers) money.

Sometimes in life youve gotta remove the whiners... sure hes right but when its just constant negativity its just a bummer effect it can have on you personally

Again I agree hes knowledgeable... but when I was subbed to nexus every video was like, ok how you gonna bum us all out this time today dude.

 

[StereoVsn]

RAM is already coming from there and is bought en masse by giant tech companies, there's no dumping of cheap RAM as if it was shirts or somethig like that

And China also has giant tech companies and government who are as much into AI as the US if not more. Plus they all have a "nice" censorship side hustle, now with AI.

That takes RAM, amongst other things.

 

[Metnut]

This is the entire point of Gamepass. Luckily, it has failed.

 

[Bojji]

Sometimes in life youve gotta remove the whiners... sure hes right but when its just constant negativity its just a bummer effect it can have on you personally

Again I agree hes knowledgeable... but when I was subbed to nexus every video was like, ok how you gonna bum us all out this time today dude.

There is NOTHING positive about this situation with no hope in sight, consumer market for hardware will be fucked for next 12 months or more. Other tech channels are talking about this with the same level of negativity.



Only people that are happy about this are shareholders and folks that are connected in some way with all this Ai crap. We are going into Cyberpunk future where corporations are more important than countries.

 

[Topher]

Sometimes in life youve gotta remove the whiners... sure hes right but when its just constant negativity its just a bummer effect it can have on you personally

Again I agree hes knowledgeable... but when I was subbed to nexus every video was like, ok how you gonna bum us all out this time today dude.

He talks about recent news when it comes up. He has plenty of other content regarding hardware. I wouldn't say he is constantly negative. It is just the negative stuff that gets the most attention

 

[StueyDuck]

There is NOTHING positive about this situation with no hope in sight, consumer market for hardware will be fucked for next 12 months or more. Other tech channels are talking about this with the same level of negativity.



Only people that are happy about this are shareholders and folks that are connected in some way with all this Ai crap. We are going into Cyberpunk future where corporations are more important than countries.

It doesn't change the fact that if your feed of anything on any platform is filled with whiners, you're inevitably gonna end up with a similar mindset.

Like it sucks for sure, I'm definitely not upgrading my PC anytime soon, but my life isn't over because of that fact. It sucks, but what can we do?

Purge the whiners, go out into the world and find something good instead.

 

[Bojji]

It doesn't change the fact that if your feed of anything on any platform is filled with whiners, you're inevitably gonna end up with a similar mindset.

Like it sucks for sure, I'm definitely not upgrading my PC anytime soon, but my life isn't over because of that fact. It sucks, but what can we do?

Purge the whiners, go out into the world and find something good instead.

I get what you are saying but there are not many good things going on, hahaha. World is getting worse and worse.

 

[cwoody63]

This is the entire point of Gamepass. Luckily, it has failed.

I don't think the point was ever locking any game behind the sub. They never did anything close to that.

"Oh but they might have," is baseless conjecture.

 

[Guilty_AI]

There is NOTHING positive about this situation with no hope in sight, consumer market for hardware will be fucked for next 12 months or more. Other tech channels are talking about this with the same level of negativity.



Only people that are happy about this are shareholders and folks that are connected in some way with all this Ai crap. We are going into Cyberpunk future where corporations are more important than countries.

I'd say the positive thing out of all of this is that the massive demand for the AI gold rush is pushing for the construction of more semi-conductor fabs, as well as reesearch on alternative materials and building methods to improve production scalability, endurance, etc. Much like the .com bubble, which oversaw the creation of massive infrastructure for internet transmition, it later paved the way for cheap internet at great speeds.

Sooner or later, the demand for these chips for AI will fall. Even if AI isn't a bubble, they can't keep building new datacenters forever, and when that happens all this infrastructure and tech will have to sell their stuff to someone.

 

[Bry0]

I only said this on the matter

Post in thread 'Micron/Crucial leaving the consumer memory market place to focus solely on enterprise (AI/data center) memory sales.' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/micr...ta-center-memory-sales.1690869/post-271048845

Valve is small beans. If Lenovo or dell have problems sourcing consumer memory then valve doesn't have a chance in hell getting sodimms.

 

[Hudo]

Don't worry, guys. The backend infrastructure required for this is getting engineered and coded by LLMs. Which means that shit will never work.

 

[Clear]

I don't know but I'm hoping some Chinese company will see a vacuum left by Micron and some Chinese start up will take up RAM manufacturing to cater to that demand.

One can only hope.

Exactly. If a gap opens up in the market, its an opportunity to make a lot of money filling it.

I think there's more than whiff of hysteria about this, but we'll see.

I mean, there are a lot of Chinese suppliers, who have absolutely no stake in the push towards AI supremacy. And those Chinese companies pay money back to the Chinese Government!

Isn't it just more likely that right now its way more profitable to redirect everything towards the insatiable demand for AI? A demand that isn't going to last, because bubbles always burst. Always.

The growth in AI investment is simply unsustainable, and for all the talk about this cloud based future all it takes is one significant outage to severely damage confidence in the tech.

 

[Insane Metal]

I posted this video on another thread, didn't know there was a thread for it. Edit the title for better accuracy.

On topic, Steve keeps doing great work with his videos. These companies can all go fuck themselves.

 

[bender]

Let go of the past, skin tubes.

 

[StereoVsn]

Valve is small beans. If Lenovo or dell have problems sourcing consumer memory then valve doesn't have a chance in hell getting sodimms.

I mean … Samsung Mobile has issues sourcing RAM from SAMSUNG Semi. If that doesn't show you the depth of an issue, nothing will. What Valve when one part of MegaCorp doesn't want to sell to another part of same MegaCorp because they can get better deal elsewhere!

 

[Crayon]

INSANE VALUE

 

[Unknown?]

MS wants to make Windows a cloud OS as well. With tons of sub add-ons.

*vomits in mouth*

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

You can choose to not partake of it.
Play what you have now until the wheels fall off and decades worth of retro games.

Start collecting now folks.

 

[grvg]

Too many are being conditioned from childhood now. See: MTX

I remember the horse armor from my youth...

Edit: dang, this thread has too many good posts for me to keep up

I am reminded of an 2014 interview with gaben where he said that open environments fare better than closed ones - this was in reference to gaming on Linux, and in the wake of M$ trying to strong arm the market with their short lived windows gaming gambit.

These big tech companies are too incompetent and too focused on short term gains to truly finish the plans they have started it may take some time, but the inevitable backlash will probably be good for us as a whole. The timing of that, however, will lead to some short and medium term troubles. All of this is just imho.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

*looks around the thread*
Well, Boys… we funded this. This is how corporations repay us for passively and or blindly supporting them.
I really should have built a fucking am5, HE platform before summer.
It's going to be way more expensive to build out a rig. By design? When I read about subbed and cloud as a vision for the future I say fuck that.
Do what I'm doing and work on a personal, private archive. You'll thank me when That Dystopian Future hits.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

Wait, are you new? This has been a trend for years now. MS pushed hard for services and GaaS are also ways to push this.

I will even trigger the fanatics of Valve and say that they want this too, all digital license and everything under their control.

Im personally moving my PC purchases to GOG, I really wont forgive myself for taking this long to do this. But I guess it is better late than never.

 

[nikos]

I don't know anything about memory production, but if a company can swoop in with the right marketing and even somewhat affordable memory for gamers/consumers, it seems like they'd win the entire market over.

 

[Robb]

I used to think Cloud/streaming was the obvious way we'd be moving forward. But it doesn't seem to work very well for gaming. I'm not really interested in it anymore.

 

[CrustyBritches]

We are in a cyberpunk corpo cold war. I'm guessing the race to fusion, then some star wars shit.

 

[Fess]

"reverse Robin Hood"

Stealing from the poor, giving to the rich. Yeah.

I work in the electronics manufacturing industry, I can confirm that this talk is real. It's brutal. And it'll affect us all. Companies who create electronics devices of literally any type today can't just swallow the increased costs, for a while it's a race to search components at the lowest prices and then purchase in bulk to cover years of production. It happened during Covid but didn't end up as bad as expected. After awhile the higher cost can't be avoided. It'll 100% lead to increased prices for the consumer and it's already happening.

And there is no escaping it. We can literally only hope that the whole thing is a bubble that will pop… but that would probably be catastrophic and would push the whole world into an economy crisis.

So, is this Game Over?
No idea. But if you built a PC with so called future proof parts last year or so. Be happy. Pray it don't break. Sit on it as long as possible and try to accept that turning down settings is okay because that's the path forward now.

 

[Pedro Motta]

These tech companies don't want us to have our own AI's or LLMs at home, they are gatekeeping powerful hardware behind absurd prices so you are forced to use their services and subscriptions. Feck them all.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

While I have no doubt they would LOVE that, also never never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by ignorance.

The big tech companies are far too inept to orchestrate a run on memory in order to make you rent a cloud gaming service. This is all just a happy little accident for them. It is literally impossible for this memory shortage to all be a malevolent plan to get you on streaming. Rather, they are planning to use the memory for AI.

I'm sure he goes over all this in the video. This guy is good, never leaves shit out so everything I say he has already thought of.

Bullshit saying made by malicious corrupt people to keep wider populous ignorant and docile.
Always attribute to malice once a precedent has been set.

 

[Fess]

Feck them all.

How? By playing retro games?

Watch the video, at least his summary.
We can't avoid this. Boycotts don't work. The tech industry will pay what they have to pay and they'll do it either with tax payers money or investment money. They don't care. Regular consumers are ants under the feet of elephants.

 

[Pedro Motta]

How? By playing retro games?

Watch the video, at least his summary.
We can't avoid this. Boycotts don't work. The tech industry will pay what they have to pay and they'll do it either with tax payers money or investment money. They don't care. Regular consumers are ants under the feet of elephants.

You're right, but I can still tell them to go fuck themselves.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Reality is slowly morphing into some sci-fi author's best attempt at a cyberpunk-esk dystopia.

 

[Aressa]

Sub is dumb but tolerable. Cloud? No no no.

 

[Fess]

You're right, but I can still tell them to go fuck themselves.

That's true you can. But as he says there is no real way out of this, that's what makes it so depressing. This video may seem a bit exaggerated, to pull in views, but he's talking about something that is very real and very concerning. When electronics cars scooped up components we saw manufacturing ramping up to counter it, new factories were built and in more countries. What "tech Jesus" is talking about is effectively one of the giants ending production… At least for the consumer market. What if Nvidia, AMD, Intel all realize the same thing? That the money is in AI now.

 

[PlayStaytion]

You mean China, it sounds like their main goal is destroying factories from their neighborhood countries. I don't want content moving back and forth rapidly cause it's disingenuous.