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teen goes on killing rampage in Minn. 10 dead

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RED LAKE, Minn. - A high school student went on a shooting rampage on this Indian reservation Monday, killing his grandparents at their home and then seven people at his school, "grinning and waving" as he fired, authorities and witnesses said. The gunman was later found shot to death. It was the nation's worst school shooting since the Columbine massacre in 1999.

Students pleaded with the gunman to stop shooting.

"You could hear a girl saying, 'No, Jeff, quit, quit. Leave me alone. What are you doing?" Sondra Hegstrom told The Pioneer of Bemidji, using the name of the suspected shooter.

Before the shootings at Red Lake High School, the suspect's grandparents were shot in their home and died later.

Six students including the gunman were killed at the school, along with a teacher and a security guard, FBI (news - web sites) spokesman Paul McCabe said at a news conference in Minneapolis.

Hegstrom described the gunman grinning and waving at a student his gun was pointed at, then swiveling to shoot someone else. "I looked him in the eye and ran in the room, and that's when I hid," she told The Pioneer.

McCabe declined to talk about a possible connection between the suspect and the couple killed at the home, but Red Lake Fire Director Roman Stately said they were the grandparents of the shooter. He identified the shooter's grandfather as Daryl Lussier, a longtime officer with the Red Lake Police Department, and said Lussier's guns may have been used in the shootings.

Stately said the shooter had two handguns and a shotgun.

"After he shot a security guard, he walked down the hallway shooting and went into a classroom where he shot a teacher and more students," Stately told Minneapolis television station KARE.

Students and a teacher at the scene, Diane Schwanz, said the shooter tried to break down a door to get into a room where some students were.

"I just got on the floor and called the cops," Schwanz told the Pioneer. "I was still just half-believing it."

Ashley Morrison, another student, took refuge in a classroom. With the shooter banging on the door, she dialed her mother on her cell phone. Her mother, Wendy Morrison, said she could hear gunshots on the line.

"'Mom, he's trying to get in here and I'm scared,'" Ashley Morrison told her mother.

Schwanz was the teacher in that room. She said, "I just got down on the floor and (said), 'Kids, down on the ground, under the benches!'" She said she called police on her cell phone.

All of the dead students were found in one room. One of them was a boy believed to be the shooter, McCabe said. He would not comment on reports that the boy shot himself and said it was too early to speculate on a motive.

Fourteen to 15 other students were injured, McCabe said.

The school was evacuated after the shootings and locked down for investigation, McCabe said.

"It will probably take us throughout the night to really put the whole picture together," he said.

It was the nation's worst school shooting since two students at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 before killing themselves on April 20, 1999.

The last apparent fatal school shootings involving a student also happened in Minnesota in September 2003, when two students were killed at Rocori High School in Cold Spring. Classmate John Jason McLaughlin, who was 15 at the time of the shooting, awaits trial in the case.

That shooting was the first major incident reported since 2001.

Red Lake High School, on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in far northern Minnesota, has about 300 students, according to its Web site.

The reservation is about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities. It is home to the Red Lake Chippewa Tribe, one of the poorest in the state. According to the 2000 census, 5,162 people lived on the reservation, and all but 91 were full-blooded Indians.
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It always bugs me how the shooter escapes to fiery pits of hell instead of having to go to court.
 
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peedi

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With it occuring on an "Indian" reservation, I'll be surprised if this garners anything but nominal interest by the networks.
 
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GaimeGuy

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I present to you guys the state which I live in:



Minnesota Nice!






or not
 
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Crandle

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peedi said:
With it occuring on an "Indian" reservation, I'll be surprised if this garners anything but nominal interest by the networks.
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Yes, that's why it's the lead story on all of their websites.
 
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FeedMeAStrayCat

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catfish said:
It always bugs me how the shooter escapes to fiery pits of hell instead of having to go to court.
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Yeah, that does kind of bug me too. It seems much suckier to actually have to go through all the court stuff and then many years in prison. They always luck out, I guess.. :p
 
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theo

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it doesn't matter if it was in a big city or a one room schoolhouse in nunavut, a school shooting is a school shooting. tv news loves school shootings.
 
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Crandle

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peedi said:
Compared to the 24 hour coverage of Columbine, interest in this story is slight.
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Twice as many people were killed at that school, though.

Maybe they have some kind of ghoulish algorithm for this kind of thing.
 
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john tv said:
Everyone who owns a gun should be electrocuted on the spot. Idiots.
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Yeah, but then the King of England will just walk right into your house and do whatever he wants.

I'm pretty sure the media will cover this story ad nauseam, making sure to blame someone or something beyond the person responsible. We sure have become a country of people who know how to pass the buck, point the finger, and shift the blame.
 
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Socreges

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hXc_thugg said:
Since when do we put people from India on reservations?!
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Maybe Canadians are more sensitive to such terminology, but I'm very surprised that an AP reporter wouldn't be more 'politically correct'. Then again I have no idea what their standards are.
 
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theo said:
it doesn't matter if it was in a big city or a one room schoolhouse in nunavut, a school shooting is a school shooting. tv news loves school shootings.
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apparently not if its on a reservation..
 
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cloudwalking

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it seems like, in this state, anybody can own a damn gun, thanks to that conceal and carry law. i honestly cannot name one friend of my family who lives here in minnesota and doesn't own at least one gun. no wonder this kid was able to get a hold of a one so easily and commit a crime like this. it's really sad.
 
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captainbiotch

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What ever happened to "Wow it is really fucked up to want to slaughter people"? Is this desire acceptable now? How the fuck is it the guns fault? You people are brainwashed.

I can't wait till I turn 21 so I can buy some handguns and piss the liberals off.
 
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Although this is all tragic, it bothers me a little in a different sense. How on earth can you only kill 10 people? I mean surely nerves and paranoia or whatever will take into effect when you start firing, but as soon as you enter a full cafeteria or classroom and bring the old fella out, no doubt you could kill at least a dozen in the span of 30 seconds to a minute.

Obviously this guy was aiming for certain people that may have heckled or troubled his school years and perhaps his grandparents mistreated him when he was younger.. the very old and tiring usual blame for violent games, music or movies is a load of bullshit. Just a shame to the victims that suffered and the murderer who died since no one will know the proper cause.
 
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I don't blame video games. I blame the schools. Think about it, how many school shootings would there be if there weren't any schools?

I'll accept my Noble at the door, thank you.
 
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Gattsu25

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holy shit...the OT is fucked up

this is tragic news, assholes...not some stupid attempt to make out-of-place 'jokes' that aren't even funny
 
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captainbiotch said:
What ever happened to "Wow it is really fucked up to want to slaughter people"? Is this desire acceptable now? How the fuck is it the guns fault? You people are brainwashed.

I can't wait till I turn 21 so I can buy some handguns and piss the liberals off.
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Because stuff like this rarely happens elsewhere. U don't see a messed up student mowing down classmates with a battle axe do u? And outside of the USA school shootings are also rare, the one in scotland years ago was with a gun, a mean feat since they are in comparison a lot harder to get there.
 
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cloudwalking said:
it seems like, in this state, anybody can own a damn gun, thanks to that conceal and carry law. i honestly cannot name one friend of my family who lives here in minnesota and doesn't own at least one gun. no wonder this kid was able to get a hold of a one so easily and commit a crime like this. it's really sad.
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Concealed handgun licenses are a GOOD thing (look at Phoenix for an example, from what I hear they're crime rate is quite low). I guarentee you that if that happened here in Texas he would have been shot by someone else before things got totally out of control. Reading the article leads me to believe he was shot by someone else as it doesn't say the shot was self inflicted.
 
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Mashing said:
So I'm not allowed to protect myself?
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protect yourself??? against what man?

if US have had a gun law that stated that no civilian could own a firearm you would not have to protect yourself with guns!

look at the rest of the world, do we have any problems with kids shooting up schools?
do we have gun violence like you have in the states?

no we do not

but we do have pshyco killers and massmurderers but thats a whole diffrent ball game they kill with ropes and shit :)

USA is fucked up!
 
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Gek54

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If someone broke into your house and threatened you with switchblade, what form of defense would you wish you had?
 
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robertsan21 said:
protect yourself??? against what man?

if US have had a gun law that stated that no civilian could own a firearm you would not have to protect yourself with guns!

look at the rest of the world, do we have any problems with kids shooting up schools?
do we have gun violence like you have in the states?

no we do not

but we do have pshyco killers and massmurderers but thats a whole diffrent ball game

USA is fucked up!
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Fucked up cuz people can own guns? :lol
 
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Gek54 said:
If someone broke into your house and threatened you with switchblade, what form of defense would you wish you had?
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well i guess i would like to have a gun!

but now that i down i still have my legs that i can run with, or defend myself with martial arts or a knife
 
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psycho_snake

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I wouldnt be surprised if we have a thread in the gaming foum about take two being sued for this incident. But they deserve it, GTA:SA IS TURNING TEENAGERS INTO KILLERS!
 
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Zilch said:
Fucked up cuz people can own guns? :lol
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well not only that of course but if you did not have guns it would not be so many deaths

the majority of deaths in a crime are from guns no?

imagine if you only had knifes or other things to protect yourself with like us here in europe has, then you would see less deaths
 
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speedpop said:
Although this is all tragic, it bothers me a little in a different sense. How on earth can you only kill 10 people? I mean surely nerves and paranoia or whatever will take into effect when you start firing, but as soon as you enter a full cafeteria or classroom and bring the old fella out, no doubt you could kill at least a dozen in the span of 30 seconds to a minute.
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14 to 15 other students were wounded.
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is it still that easy for a kid to get a gun in the USA ? i mean what DID change in this country after Columbine ?
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In the article, it says that his grandfather was a police officer and that the guns could have came from there.
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Twice as many people were killed at that school, though.
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8 people died at Red Lake HS (1 security guard, 1 teacher, 5 kids and the shooter) and his grandparents at home. That's hardly "twice".
 
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