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Tekken |OT2| Pulse of the Regionally Discriminated Knuckleheads
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Probably gonna buy it on PC myself. Just got a new gaming laptop with a 980M GeForce card so I figure that's better than a standard PS4.
That's what I've always been afraid of...
Still not going to buy the Pro. I figure if I'm not happy with the PS4's performance, I'll build a PC.
I'm just afraid this will become 3DS Hyrule Warriors tier towards the end of this generation. That game is garbage on the 3DS and only playable on the New 3DS.
FormallyFamicom
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Here's my continued issue with Lucky Chloe: Why is she in a fighting game? Even with this backstory, it's all about her dancing and wanting to be an idol. Her "fighting" style is free style dance. There's no sense as to why she's fighting at all. With that background, she shouldn't even be able to fight.
Ugh...
Also...
Yeah, Gigas is Marduk.
Ugh...
Also...
Yeah, Gigas is Marduk.
SquirrelSoup
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Dug around a bit, and maybe you can select people from the online profile page, then join them from there if they sent you an invite/are playing KoF.. ?
Osu 16 Bit
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That Katarina bio is lame. Why does she have guns and threaten to kill her opponent?
Have a Nice Day
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Let's hope that the PC version have a forced benchmark tool that lock people out of online play if they can't get a consistent framerate and performance.
Via Purifico
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If you guys are getting the PC version let's exchange steam IDs when it's out.
GrayFoxPL
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Hyperballing to the limit. It's Namco's role to make T7 run on normal PS4 as best as possible and it seems they're doing it. Don't expect Pro to give you anything more then higher res and better pointless VR mode.
Interesting Gigas bit:
Jane would lead inhumane experiment program? That's Iffy.
And yeah that's Marduk in there.
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G Corporation hired Lucky Chloe and Josie is Tekken Force recruit?
Thanks, I'll check it out. I had some better connections today on ranked but it's funny that all rooms are Japan, Taiwan, HK, Korea, Singapour, Brazil ect. No Europe.
Well it won't matter to me, I'll be playing on PC
GrayFoxPL
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Woowww....seriously. Kazuya would be caught dead in his grave before he lets a figure like Chloe become the face of Gcorp.
That's totally how you want to start the description of any respectable fighter.
Who's writing the story for this game.....I really would like to know. Comparing the Tekken 4 story descriptions to this game is like day and night.
Osu 16 Bit
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Kazumi's bio is weird too. It talks about her like she never died and became a demon lady. Like she's just 90 years old with Heihachi.
They're lucky this is a fighting game and a good chunk of people don't care about fighting game stories (including myself I guess)......doesn't mean they still shouldn't try to at least make something decent. First impressions are not good for the character bios at all. I don't know if they're looking to make this a bigger train wreck than Tekken 6's story.
SquirrelSoup
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So Master Raven and a balance patch on September 15th, same day TGS starts. I'm excited~
Shiiit
Its definitely not going to look as good as the PS4 Pro version or the PC version that's for sure. But I'm confident the normal PS4 version will look good, they already confirmed it will run 1080p/60.
And in a few days we will see how it runs/looks on regular PS4 at TGS anyway.
GrayFoxPL
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What the fuck man.
SquirrelSoup
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Counterhit and rage damage bonus i guess. Call Harader.
Judging by the recent PS4 Pro threads popping up... I don't expect that verison to look that much better
But no, seriously, I think the PS4 version will look very good.
And that's the nerf'd Akuma version
@Rajang: As promised, a few things concerning Steve:
Steve is definitely one of the harder characters in the game, both in terms of execution and in general, but it's not too hard to "get started" with him.
Steve is a very stance-heavy character. He has a lot moves which transition to both his Peek a Boo (PKB) and Flicker (FLK) stance.
He's a generally pretty safe character. Not a lot of launch punishable moves and a lot of moves are safe if you cancel them into a duck or a stance. His mix-ups are very good, his tracking is also decent and his counterhit launchers are extremely strong.
His stances are safe since they allow you to maintain your defense.
You press f+3+4 for PKB stance. A lot of great pressure tools out of this stance. Your opponent will freeze in fear whenever you go into this stance in front of his face
b+3+4 for FLK stance. He makes a big step backwards. Some Steve players use this as an evasive tool (immediately after a tag in for example).
Albatross spin (just 3+4) has its use in some situations, but is generally the "stance" you'll not use as often as the other two. It can be extended by holding U or D.
His biggest weakness is probably his weak punishment. His strongest (standing) punisher is his 10 frame 1,1,2 with 33 damage. His fastest launcher is at 17 frames (b+2) and his stronger combos out of that launcher are very hard to execute.
He also has 2,1 at 12 frames.
df+1,2 at 13 frames.
df+1+2 at 14 frames.
f,f+2 at 15 frames.
db+3,2 at 16 frames.
uf+2 at 19 frames. Only possible for big stuff like Jin's cancans of Asuka's f+2.
In crouch he has WS+1,2 at 11 frames
and WS+1+2 at 18 frames (big launcher).
For pokes he has 1,2 of course
1,2,1 which can be canceled into all ducks, sways and cancels (~B for FLK, ~F for PKB, f+3 (or 4) for duck, b+3 (or 4) for backsway, 3 for sway left, 4 for sway right)
1,2,1,2 which can be canceled into a duck - I'd still not use this move too often, but you can catch your opponent off guard occasionally if he doesn't expect a duck and a launch
1,d+1 (~F for PKB, ~B for FLK)
1,1,d+1 (same as above)
2,1~F for PKB and ~B for FLK
df+1
f+1+2~F or ~B
d+1 (very nice low poke)
db+3,2 which gives a free 3+4,d+2 (Albatross d+2)
b+1 (amazing move that launches on counterhit, I spam this a lot
)WS+1
WS+2,f+3 (launches on counterhit)
d+2,1,f+3 is an amazing low poke that is safe on block. The last hit of the full string d+2,1,2 is high but launches on counterhit. Don't be afraid to throw it in occasionally. It can be delayed and your opponent might push buttons if you've always cancelled the move into a duck.
I'm sure I've forgotten a lot xD
A few tools you should always make use of:
df+1+2 is a very good whiff punisher. Decent tracking, knocks down on hit, -12 on block. It has very good range as well and can even punish moves like Heihachi's f,f+2.
f,f+2 gives a knockdown and very good oki. Your opponent falls right in front of you face forward and face down. You get a guaranteed db+2 or a combo if your opponent backrolls (f,f+2 for instant bound and f+3,1 for pickup), -13 on block and leaves your opponent in crouch, so be careful against Kazuya players.
db+2 is his "sweep". Knocks down with good oki possibilities (same as f,f+2).
qcf+1~B is amazing. Good range, safe on block if you cancel into flicker. Wall splats.
FC df+1 to get into PKB
uf+1 to get close to your opponent
f+3,1 gives a full juggle on hit if you get the timing right
df+2 is a homing move. Safe on block and launches on counterhit (strict timing for juggle).
That is enough for starters I think. I haven't even gotten started on his stances, cancels and juggles. Just his punishers, pokes and a few decent moves. And that alone was more than I thought
Do you have a headset? I can show you some stuff in practice mode sometime as well if you want.
I'd say Steve is one of the most fun characters in the whole game and trying to master him is very satisfying. He isn't as good in TTT2 as he was in T6 (or his broken T4 and T5 version lol), but still very decent. His T7 version looks very promising as well.
@Rajang: As promised, a few things concerning Steve:
Steve is definitely one of the harder characters in the game, both in terms of execution and in general, but it's not too hard to "get started" with him.
Steve is a very stance-heavy character. He has a lot moves which transition to both his Peek a Boo (PKB) and Flicker (FLK) stance.
He's a generally pretty safe character. Not a lot of launch punishable moves and a lot of moves are safe if you cancel them into a duck or a stance. His mix-ups are very good, his tracking is also decent and his counterhit launchers are extremely strong.
His stances are safe since they allow you to maintain your defense.
You press f+3+4 for PKB stance. A lot of great pressure tools out of this stance. Your opponent will freeze in fear whenever you go into this stance in front of his face
b+3+4 for FLK stance. He makes a big step backwards. Some Steve players use this as an evasive tool (immediately after a tag in for example).
Albatross spin (just 3+4) has its use in some situations, but is generally the "stance" you'll not use as often as the other two. It can be extended by holding U or D.
His biggest weakness is probably his weak punishment. His strongest (standing) punisher is his 10 frame 1,1,2 with 33 damage. His fastest launcher is at 17 frames (b+2) and his stronger combos out of that launcher are very hard to execute.
He also has 2,1 at 12 frames.
df+1,2 at 13 frames.
df+1+2 at 14 frames.
f,f+2 at 15 frames.
db+3+2 at 16 frames.
uf+2 at 19 frames. Only possible for big stuff like Jin's cancans of Asuka's f+2.
In crouch he has WS+1,2 at 11 frames
and WS+1+2 at 18 frames (big launcher).
For pokes he has 1,2 of course
1,2,1 which can be canceled into all ducks, sways and cancels (~B for FLK, ~F for PKB, f+3 (or 4) for duck, b+3 (or 4) for backsway, 3 for sway left, 4 for sway right)
1,2,1,2 which can be canceled into a duck - I'd still not use this move too often, but you can catch your opponent off guard occasionally if he doesn't expect a duck and a launch
1,d+1 (~F for PKB, ~B for FLK)
1,1,d+1 (same as above)
2,1~F for PKB and ~B for FLK
df+1
f+1+2~F or ~B
d+1 (very nice low poke)
db+3,2 which gives a free 3+4,d+2 (Albatross d+2)
b+1 (amazing move that launches on counterhit, I spam this a lot
WS+1
WS+2,f+3 (launches on counterhit)
d+2,1,f+3 is an amazing low poke that is safe on block. The last hit of the full string d+2,1,2 is high but launches on counterhit. Don't be afraid to throw it in occasionally. It can be delayed and your opponent might push buttons if you've always cancelled the move into a duck.
I'm sure I've forgotten a lot xD
A few tools you should always make use of:
df+1+2 is a very good whiff punisher. Decent tracking, knocks down on hit, -12 on block. It has very good range as well and can even punish moves like Heihachi's f,f+2.
f,f+2 gives a knockdown and very good oki. Your opponent falls right in front of you face forward and face down. You get a guaranteed db+2 or a combo if your opponent backrolls (f,f+2 for instant bound and f+3,1 for pickup), -13 on block and leaves your opponent in crouch, so be careful against Kazuya players.
db+2 is his "sweep". Knocks down with good oki possibilities (same as f,f+2).
qcf+1~B is amazing. Good range, safe on block if you cancel into flicker. Wall splats.
FC df+1 to get into PKB
uf+1 to get close to your opponent
f+3,1 gives a full juggle on hit if you get the timing right
df+2 is a homing move. Safe on block and launches on counterhit (strict timing for juggle).
That is enough for starters I think. I haven't even gotten started on his stances, cancels and juggles. Just his punishers, pokes and a few decent moves. And that alone was more than I thought
Do you have a headset? I can show you some stuff in practice mode sometime as well if you want.
I'd say Steve is one of the most fun characters in the whole game and trying to master him is very satisfying. He isn't as good in TTT2 as he was in T6 (or his broken T4 and T5 version lol), but still very decent. His T7 version looks very promising as well.
Wow, thanks a lot for this. I just needed some place to start, other guides were like 2 hour tutorials.
And yea I would be down for a practice mode session. I cant communicate through PS3 though, I don't have a mic for it. My laptop has a built in mic so its possible to communicate through Discord or even Skype when we're playing. I really want to understand the character. Not just to use him but also to fight against him. I'm mostly playing on the feel against Steve and just guessing most of the time. I have that with many other character as well. I've only been learning Feng since I started practicing seriously. I know most of the characters' staples and what most of their moves do obviously because Ive played Tekken since I was a kid but learning every character properly from a competitive angle is something else lol.
FormallyFamicom
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It's a lot to chew on for sure. My approach was to take it a bit at a time. If I'm getting destroyed by a particular move or setup, recreate it in practice mode and find out why. Do this over and over again until there's none left!
lol
EDIT: Akuma is out of control
ZeroTheShadow
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Claudio Buffs incoming? Please make f+4 like it was in 7.0. That nerf was so dumb.
Does this combo damage seem low for anyone else or the opposite
Looks fine in and of itself, but if you compare this to other characters it does indeed look very low. Especially Akuma...
@Rajang: Another piece of advice I can give you is to always watch Koreans play your characters. I love watching Knee's Steve for example. Even if he's not the best Steve player, he's still my favourite.
Discord sounds fine by the way. I tried it with Dereck once and it works surprisingly well.
I'll tell you when I can play. I... don't like my family hear me speak English >_>
SquirrelSoup
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Low damage hits at the front of the combo, it looks like. Afaik the scaling is now 70% -> 50% -> 40% -> 30% for all subsequent hits. So if you want a high damage combo you need to make especially those first two ones count.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Does this combo damage seem low for anyone else or the opposite
Looks sweet.
For a 16 hit combo from df+2 the damage is good. Dude went little overboard with hit count, lol.
Having a casual session with a few friends and we'll start streaming in a few minutes.
If anyone wants to watch: twitch.tv/Ice_Beam
We're Online (with commentary).
If anyone wants to watch: twitch.tv/Ice_Beam
We're Online (with commentary).
FormallyFamicom
Member
AAK thanks for telling me about those OFdp vids, I watched them and they were very helpful.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Caught your matches. Man, your movement improved a lot.
What's with all the timeouts though
Timeouts? What do you mean?
SquirrelSoup
Member
Quite a few matches ended in timeout because the both of you were too busy showing off BDCs~
I'm just kidding =D
Haha yeah
I got pummeled by RyuKazuya just now.
We'll get back to playing in a few minutes.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Offline session, cool! Watching archive.
It's the first two streams in the archive. Our commentary was kind of... awkward, but it was very fun. Trash talk was fun anyways
lol, I have the same thing when my gf is sitting next to me.
GrayFoxPL
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It's the first two streams in the archive. Our commentary was kind of... awkward, but it was very fun. Trash talk was fun anyways
Nice matches against RyuKazuya, especially at the end. Intense match. You should always play at that tempo and awareness.
Were you commenting the second part? Good English. That first guy pushed too much trolling, you(?) had better tone.
I pretty much almost never spoken english out loud so I'd be like caveman on mic.
Nice stream. Great play from all players.
Gifed the best part, lol.
Nice matches against RyuKazuya, especially at the end. Intense match. You should always play at that tempo and awareness.
Were you commenting the second part? Good English. That first guy pushed too much trolling, you(?) had better tone.
I pretty much almost never spoken english out loud so I'd be like caveman on mic.
Nice stream. Great play from all players.
Gifed the best part, lol.
I liked my matches against RyuKazuya. He's obviously the better player, but I kind of figured out how to deal with his Kazuya, his Law was a big problem though.
There was a match were I launched him with 3 JFSRs in a row because I failed to do a bound twice. Some nice words from Ice_Beam as well^^
About the commentary: RyuKazuya was commentating my match against Coud_Syler and the match between azm and Onur.
Ice_Beam and SSJ_Luffy were commentating my match against RyuKazuya and I TRIED commentating the match between Ice_Beam and azm, but I realized I had no idea what I was doing, so I let SSJ_Luffy do the commentary alone xD
I had no idea what to say and formulating my thoughts on the fly is... kinda hard. It may sound weird, but it really is.
The gif you posted is from azm's match against Ice_Beam. He's known for his insane combos and you got a glimpse of it
I feel like the threads on Gaming get dumber every day. It's not even worth looking anymore.
I mean... just... look at this!
I mean... just... look at this!
FormallyFamicom
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This will definitely happen to me, probably several times.
GrayFoxPL
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You're right.
PC gamers here have right to make dumb threads like this and things like "Should Sony release their games on PC?!" They can post anything. They can call themselves "Master race" all the time, disgusting term that originally came from nazis. Special benefits for special people.
From Wiki:
Seems like this message never came through to GAF, neither to mods nor to master race morons.
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