Osu 16 Bit
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Katarina is like, the easiest character ever. Highly recommend her to anyone who thinks she looks cool and just wants to play basic Tekken.
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ZeroTheShadow
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Lee is easy to play, just hard to win with.
AkelisRain
Member
So, I got in my 2lb spring for the JLF. I must say that this feels phenomenal. I wish I had done this a long time ago. You can definitely feel the difference from the stock spring, it is more fluid in motion as well.
https://www.focusattack.com/2lb-tension-spring-for-sanwa-jlf/
https://www.focusattack.com/2lb-tension-spring-for-sanwa-jlf/
Have a Nice Day
Member
I think people usually associate how hard Lee is with the execution of his b+2, mist step. Also, I think Dragunov is easy to use too.
Z
ZelbZelb
Unconfirmed Member
I would say that Lee's b+2, f~N loops are icing on the cake. What makes it hard for me is that he largely has a certain overall range to his moveset that makes punishing some important things hard. Not to mention that he can have a hard time against a keep-out play-style, which makes having a life deficit feel hopeless sometimes. I think that Lee requires a certain confidence to do the bold moves and strategies he needs. I can definitely feel the difference when playing Dragunov, who seems to be able to punish even most of Jack's stuff.
Dragunov I feel what makes him seem harder to play is that his only 'catch-all' move is instant WR2, which is pretty tough to do. Otherwise, most of his moveset has specific uses, so you have to know what to do and when. d+2 chops help a great deal, though.
That's just my experience as a low/mid level player, however.
Dragunov I feel what makes him seem harder to play is that his only 'catch-all' move is instant WR2, which is pretty tough to do. Otherwise, most of his moveset has specific uses, so you have to know what to do and when. d+2 chops help a great deal, though.
That's just my experience as a low/mid level player, however.
According to that article they used AA on a 4k display... to be honest that's wasting resources.
No wonder why a simple 1060 is enough for 1440p but suddenly a 1080ti is needed for 4k.
copelandmaster
Member
I think they are using a modified version of UE4's differed render. I'd hazard a guess that the AA is a post processing solution. Shouldn't be much more resource intensive, even at 4k. The power difference between cards also makes sense for the jump in resolution (1080ti is more than 2x a 1060, 4k is more than 2x 1440p).
MikeBreezy92
Member
This is pretty much Lee 101 tbh.
I don't know. I'm talking from the perspective of a mediocre Lee player who doesn't main him. Aside from the combo stuff like b+2 loops and iWR+3,4 combos in TTT2, I always found it hard to figure out how to really use him. He never seemed like a "pick up and play" kind of character.
Should we include Akuma/SF in the OT title? Something like
Tekken 7 |OT| Comes with a free copy of Akuma
Tekken 7 |OT| Step Fireballs
Tekken 7 |OT| Better SF than SFV (j/k of course, but this would get us some amazing posts
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Should we include Akuma/SF in the OT title? Something like
Tekken 7 |OT| Comes with a free copy of Akuma
Tekken 7 |OT| Step Fireballs
Tekken 7 |OT| Better SF than SFV (j/k of course, but this would get us some amazing posts
)lucebuce12
Member
Tekken 7 |OT| FADCs in 2017
As someone who is new to Tekken and thinks that she looks cool, this is great to hear.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I've always been an observer of the Tekken games. Everything I heard from the people who were into it was that it takes a long time to be able to get competent. Frame data is key, learning other characters and how to punish them is key.
Our local group had a few really high level players that go way back to the Tekken 2 days. I think the top player went by Mateo. I've seen him at combo breaker and some other tournaments. Seeing that kind of play was really something.
I probably shouldn't even kid myself that I'd spend a fraction of the time necessary to learn anything. Might just be a waste of money to pick up 7.
Our local group had a few really high level players that go way back to the Tekken 2 days. I think the top player went by Mateo. I've seen him at combo breaker and some other tournaments. Seeing that kind of play was really something.
I probably shouldn't even kid myself that I'd spend a fraction of the time necessary to learn anything. Might just be a waste of money to pick up 7.
Idk who told you that but shit I've been playing since T2 and I don't know a thing about frame data and I can still get up there ranking-wise in the games. Once you get used to seeing the moves and get familiar with them as long as you practice you'll be fine. All that frame data stuff isn't for everyone.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Frame data is important and one learns it anyway in for 2 reasons:
1. You like what you're doing and you want to know more about your character.
2. You are getting your ass kicked and you want to know why.
You're getting annoyed with opponents "that one move" and don't know how to punish it best, hopick doesn't work. You find out it's -14. -14 and -15 is the difference between hopkick punish and not so you find your characters best 14 frame move. That's how it rolls.
Later when you know your character's frames you don't have to look up opponent's frame data it's enough you know yours. Testing in practice mode will reveal that and more.
Frame data stats are just a chunk of information about the move. It doesn't say how far it pushes back on block, how evasive is the move, how linear it is, what range it has etc.
If you like the game, the fighting, you'll learn all these things naturally because you'll want to. It'll soak into you once you are becoming better.
I'd say try the game and if you'll hate what you're doing, sell it.
Valkerionseven
Member
I'll be on PC as well. I might move to console as well if there is a discount or I really really get into this game and want more competition if there is nothing satisfactory on pc. Feel like it should be well populated though here in North East Asia if not by my local Japan then by Korea and China as well.
AA is quite resource intensive at 4k, well many things are resource intensive at that resolution but AA- depending on the game- at is a waste of resources when gaming at 4k. Im talking from my personal experience, since I've been gaming at 4k for 2 years now with my PC.
MikeBreezy92
Member
He didn't at one point but Oh he definitely does now. For awhile now actually.
What ever you want
Tekken 7 |OT| Akuma & A Kuma
What exactly do you want out of it? Mateo is someone who could place top 8 at Evo on a good day so if that's the bar you're setting that's pretty extreme.
What exactly do you want out of it? Mateo is someone who could place top 8 at Evo on a good day so if that's the bar you're setting that's pretty extreme.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Nice, should run fine on my 970 at 1080p
DemiFiendRSA
Neo Member
Character trailer #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srmfr-h8BqY
Opening movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmHLAoHbOAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srmfr-h8BqY
Opening movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmHLAoHbOAg
7DollarHagane
Banned
Just meant by that I always stayed away from the game because I knew the level of play in our local scene was such that I'd embarrass myself trying to learn.
MrCookiepants
Member
Tekken 7 |OT| Akuma, Harada? Ain't no passing craze!
That's the best I got
That's the best I got
To me that is still a primordial form of frame data. Instead of physically knowing the number of frames of animation as the unit of measurement, you're using certain moves as the units of measurement. You're still going to have to fill your memory with that knowledge one way or another regardless to reach a level of proficiency.
That's how I started learning. For example, I learned that I could punish Law's f,f+4,3 with Feng's shoulder just by trial and error in player rooms/matches not by reading it on rbnorway.
I think the easiest way to learn in the beginning is to just test the waters with your safe 10 frame punisher and see what is punishable. To me, learning by myself in actual matches seemed to stick far better than just reading numbers off of a website.
I'm also just not a fan of overwhelming new players and telling them to study frame data. I don't think a beginner should even worry about that until they reach a level where they feel they really need it.
I honestly think the "frame-data" term has an unfortunate boogeyman associated with it. You could easily replace the term "frame data" with "knowledge of what's punishable" in every instance and it would probably feel more inviting.
But yes, I agree that it's far more easier to retain that knowledge through experimentation and actual practice in a pressure situation rather than reading it up online.
But yes, I agree that it's far more easier to retain that knowledge through experimentation and actual practice in a pressure situation rather than reading it up online.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
How many times can you hit someone with feng's qcf+1+2 headbutt online before they realise it's plus and shouldn't press buttons..
They need to read some frame data. Them feels ain't enough playa.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Good games, Doomshine. You messed me up at first but i'm glad i was able to adjust a bit at the end.
Good games. Boy do I need to work on my iWR2s.
Let them keep running into b1 into shoulder
Cosmic Forge
Member
Tekken 7 |OT| Snoop Lions, Tigers, and Bears OH MY.
Tekken 7 |OT| Rage Arts, Rage Drives, and Rage Quits OH MY.
Tekken 7 |OT| Harada Changed His Email, Don't Ask Him for Shit.
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, I'm gonna make you fly! (Kinda like Josie)
Tekken 7 |OT| Rage Arts, Rage Drives, and Rage Quits OH MY.
Tekken 7 |OT| Harada Changed His Email, Don't Ask Him for Shit.
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, I'm gonna make you fly! (Kinda like Josie)
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, Is it Early 2017, Already?
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, It's Early 2017, Are you WEDDY?
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, It's Early 2017, Are you WEDDY?
I need early 2017 somehwere in the titleTekken 7 |OT| Snoop Lions, Tigers, and Bears OH MY.
Tekken 7 |OT| Rage Arts, Rage Drives, and Rage Quits OH MY.
Tekken 7 |OT| Harada Changed His Email, Don't Ask Him for Shit.
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, I'm gonna make you fly! (Kinda like Josie)
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, Is it Early 2017, Already?
Tekken 7 |OT| Roses are Red, Violets are Lee, It's Early 2017, Are you WEDDY?
Raven upgraded
FormallyFamicom
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lucebuce12
Member
Whoever thought of replacing Raven with Master Raven deserves a fucking promotion.
this is good
Spuck-uk
Banned
You are welcome
They stole the idea and design i posted a year before she existed
Likes knitting and running to school with toast in her mouth
Saying goodbye to Raven in a sec if she turns out to be a black ninja girl. That's more rare than winning the lottery.
Fat chance. Bruce came back not black.