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Tekken Tag Tournament 2 |OT| Awaiting the "Final Battle"
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Via Purifico
Banned
If the JC persona makes Tekken 7 I can see it being the friend Julia filled in for.
If that happens she will get totally revamped since JC in TTT2 was T6 Julia with some Lucha moves thrown in.
If that happens she will get totally revamped since JC in TTT2 was T6 Julia with some Lucha moves thrown in.
Kill those "iconic" costumes LOL. I'm sick of looking at them again and again for the past 10 years. Tekken doesn't take place in a vacuum like street fighter or king of fighters. There's actual development that happens in Tekken as the story progresses, let the characters exhibit that! lol
As for Julia.... I know one move that's not gonna be of any use without TA....
nailbombxx
Member
The only issue I see with this is if people are returning after skipping a couple of Tekkens or 2d players come to Tekken. I would imagine that they would pick characters who they're familiar with, if everyone looks radically different from their old self, it would intimidate some players but that's just my two cents. :F
Via Purifico
Banned
Which even then they could do an alteration of their "iconic" outfits where they still look like themselves. Nina is a good example as already been shown in this thread.
I would be fine with updated looks as well for the iconic costume. For the alternate costumes, they can go wild if they want to. I personally enjoyed Asuka's t5 Japanese costume or Kazuya's robot one for example.
Via Purifico
Banned
Funny enough, Asuka's japanese dress costume had a different model than the one her default had. Bigger bust,slender legs etc.
It was one of my favorite designs in recent Tekken memory. I hope it makes a comeback.
On the topic of people coming into Tekken...I think that's a boat long sailed. Tekken is pretty much Virtua Fighter status now unfortunately. No matter how awesome, well designed, and graphically intensive Tekken becomes the other crowds will never be interested. Not even Tekken X Street Fighter will make them pick up a 3D game. I've come to this realization after spending quite a bit of time with the 2D crowd here.
You sure about that? I don't remember the legs being anymore skinnier nor her breasts that much bigger... Only remember the hair being much more feminine.
You sure about that? I don't remember the legs being anymore skinnier nor her breasts that much bigger... Only remember the hair being much more feminine.
Also, just saying, I would be fine with Kazumi getting some Angel moves (specifically f,f+3,4 and b+4,1). Those are some real great animations that shouldn't be lost.
I think this would be really cool. But I also think the reason they haven't done this post-Tekken 4 is because Tekken 5 was the first game to include customizations. I'm not a developer so I don't know how exactly difficult it would be to have every customizable item (hats, glasses, wigs, etc) drop on the groud after receving hits.
I think the new air-bounds are brilliant. And unlike T6 bound they don't disappear after a floor break or a balcony break. Although things can definitely change. I remember in T6.0 for arcades, you can do a juggle with a bound and when you get a character to the wall, the bound counter resets and you can get a second bound at the wall haha. Of course they patched that out
Well, technically, bound doesn't disappear after balcony break in TTT2 either if you haven't already bounded the opponent beforehand.
(Edit: Actually, I think it does if you're playing solo?). BUT anyway, I'm even MORE happy that flops can STILL work after doing a low parry. THAT IS amazing. That is more reward for predicting your opponents movements/actions/attacks correctly. I went from indifferent to happy with inclusion of supers. I think they look really good and add hype to the matches. This doesn't matter to the person playing usually (as you're having fun actually playing the game) the game but for spectators and potential new players, it's a good thing. People nowadays (unfortunately) needs lots of explosions and cinematics in their games. Tekken 7 seems to be going in that direction and I am thinking Tekken 7 will bring Tekken back to the mainstream while also pleasing the hardcore with its other aspects.
FormallyFamicom
Member
I think there is a distinction to be made here. Tekken can still get new players. I was new with TTT2 and met many others who were as well. Competitive desires vary from person to person but new people are still trying the franchise. However, converting a fan of a different game to Tekken, or any other fighting game that isn't the biggest one, is entirely different.
Today's fighting games require a lot of time and learning to be competitive in, and when you apply your time to one and have reached a certain level of aptitude, it's very hard to go back to ground zero with a different game. It really depends on what you play for. Those that like to dabble will certainly try Tekken, but given their nature it is unlikely that they'll stick with it. Those who dedicate themselves to a game are especially unlikely to stick with a different one unless it provides a vast upgrade on what they're accustomed to. We've seen both sides of it with the players at Super Arcade. A few Tekken players gave VF5:FS a try for a decent amount of time but left when their game came out and didn't come back due to a lack of strong competition. Most of the VF players never even gave Tekken a shot.
I just feel like fighting games these days breed specialists. Those specialists stick around and stay good and weed out the half-hearted. Tekken has some of the strongest specialists among all fighting games because the core fundamentals of playing the game haven't changed since the beginning and have only grown more complex over time.
MrCookiepants
Member
I agree that there definitely are specialists but the 2D crowd still plays every game for fun. Here in Ottawa there is a college that does these gathers for fighting game related stuff every week. All the 2D guys play everything between street tighter, Persona, Guilty Gear, and Marvel together. Me and my buddy sit there playing Tekken almost never does someone even ask to try a game even after we invite them. These guys wouldn't even play the game for fun. That's what drove me to believe that there's no converting them.
But alas it could also be the dogmatic attitude of my community... and I am to blame as well since I hardly support the 2D games (not like they need my support anyway)
But alas it could also be the dogmatic attitude of my community... and I am to blame as well since I hardly support the 2D games (not like they need my support anyway
)MikeBreezy92
Member
Yeah but like Aris says if you show interest in what they play and ask around you'd probably get a few more people to play.
I wouldn't say Tekken is VF levels though. The casual community and the competitive community is at least twice the size of them.
I wouldn't say Tekken is VF levels though. The casual community and the competitive community is at least twice the size of them.
I agree that there definitely are specialists but the 2D crowd still plays every game for fun. Here in Ottawa there is a college that does these gathers for fighting game related stuff every week. All the 2D guys play everything between street tighter, Persona, Guilty Gear, and Marvel together. Me and my buddy sit there playing Tekken almost never does someone even ask to try a game even after we invite them. These guys wouldn't even play the game for fun. That's what drove me to believe that there's no converting them.
But alas it could also be the dogmatic attitude of my community... and I am to blame as well since I hardly support the 2D games (not like they need my support anyway
Nah, you support 2D games enough. At the very least, I know you've bought and played SFIV, SF3, BlazBlue, SFXTK. That's support.
On the topic, I don't think such a 2D/3D dichotomy should be created. While I prefer 3D fighting games (largely because of Tekken), I wouldn't call myself a "3D opponent based action games guy." I also immensely enjoy playing Smash Bros., UMvC3, and SFIV (in that order). I tried Blazblue but couldn't get into it.
While I agree there are some people that contain themselves in their subgenre, I don't like the idea of creating this 2D/3D binary as a lot of people play and enjoy games in both genres.
From my perspective, it's your loss if you're missing out on Tekken. Or similarly UMvC3. Or Smash. Or anything really. Mostly all fighting game provide really unique experiences and often times, skills can transfer over from one game to another (even between 2D and 3D games which can have completely different gameplay structures and learning requirements).
I wouldn't either. Tekken's popularity shouldn't be underestimated. It's one of those enduring fighters that stays active online while other fighters die out a few months after game release.
I mean, think about it. TTT2 released over two years ago on consoles. It's still very active online with a lot of people playing. I just played ranked on Sunday and had no problem finding matches. I think Tekken 6 is still active online too for whatever reason, lol. I had played it a few months ago and was surprised to find matches so quickly.
Plus, Tekken is the most popular fighter in Asia and other parts of the world (ahead of even Street Fighter). Must look beyond that North America perspective.
Via Purifico
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http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/TheBabeList/Babes A-H/KazamaAsuka-Tekken5.jpg
Japanese alt
http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/1595/10942/tekken-5-20050228033749536_640w.jpg
Seemed different to me.
Looking closer the outfit probably made her chest look bigger since the cloth was form fitting.
This is what I'm talking about, if the outfit changed in someway overtime, give us the option to either buy the older costume in the customization store or have it as an alternate costume.
MikeBreezy92
Member
Harada is mad stubborn but I saw a tweet saying he'll think about adding old costumes.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Not a chance in hell she comes back.
Armor King almost certainly for the chop as well
And bye Zafina, nobody ever liked you.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Harada put up some Claudio concept art:
So much cooler without the crappy tribal facial tattoo.
Via Purifico
Banned
The tattoo should have been left out to be honest.
Old costumes would be cool since this could be the last game with the regular cast.
Old costumes would be cool since this could be the last game with the regular cast.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Via Purifico
Banned
So it's removable then? that's cool.
Yeah, maybe you're right about the breasts... but other than that i think it's overall the same.
Although I'm pretty sure they kept the breast size for Tekken 6
Harada put up some Claudio concept art:
That artwork looks soooo good
My comparison to Virtua Fighter wasn't about the amount of players... it has to do with the perception of the game from other fighting games. Just like how most 2D players refuse to play VF, they will also refuse to play Tekken.
As for the 30+ Tekken players weekly.... you wouldn't happen to be from London, UK would you? Because the amount of players London has in its one city is probably more than the collective Tekken players in a lot of entire countries
MikeBreezy92
Member
2D players refuse to play any 3D games. Even Soul Calibur although they seem to like that game for whatever reason. You see more 3D crossover than you do 2D.
I don't know...he's just too much Final Fantasy-ish for my taste. His flames also makes me think that he's Iori's long lost cousin or something. Folks are hating on Kat's "simple" and nondescript design, but she honestly feels more Tekken-ish than Claudio. Claudio kinda stands apart too much...more than Lars when he first came around.Harada put up some Claudio concept art:
Yeeeeeesss!!!!
As soon as I heard about the release date confirmation, I was ecstatic.
I need to make a plan so I can finish papers and study for exams well beforehand. I don't want to spend my weekends studying when Smash is out. It's gonna be so hard.
GrayFoxPL
Member
I just realized they fucked up and possibly retconed Paul's natural hair color.
Paul was always blond, we know that because his facial hair and eyebrows are also blond.
Now something didn't add up to me in Tekken 7 Paul.
Lol, what the fuck?
And in the videos you can see it too. It's even more staggering that in loc test they reused Tag2 cg art for his picture where he still has blond beard. Hahah wtf XD
Paul was always blond, we know that because his facial hair and eyebrows are also blond.
Now something didn't add up to me in Tekken 7 Paul.
Lol, what the fuck?
And in the videos you can see it too. It's even more staggering that in loc test they reused Tag2 cg art for his picture where he still has blond beard. Hahah wtf XD
GrayFoxPL
Member
Do people still play TTT2 online here? I used to play a ton but I've been neglecting my ps3 for my ps4. I play Forrest/Lars usually but I'm sure I'm trash now since I havent played in months.
And I want Forrest for Tekken 7, but I know he wont be in
Online is very much alive. Yes we play too.
LowParry
Member
He just looks like something out of Soul Calibur however his super is pretty damn cool.
Cosmic Forge
Member
Sadly, I have to second this. Is the list of returning characters final? Sorry, haven't been keeping track of it. If not, then maybe there's hope still...
GrayFoxPL
Member
MrCookiepants
Member
Ugh. Went online for the first time in a long time and kept facing the same guy playing solo characters and spamming 10 strings. As soon as I'd learn how to punish one consistently, he'd switch characters and the whole torturous process would repeat itself. Those things hurt with solo damage. Especially Nina's which ends in a launcher.
I'm going on Twitter right now and begging Harada to take 10 strings out of Tekken 7.
I'm going on Twitter right now and begging Harada to take 10 strings out of Tekken 7.
Emperor Bohe
Member
random throwback to old school baby faced Paul Phoenix:
FormallyFamicom
Member
Bunch of T7 info from Harada here. A few bullet points that caught my attention:
Kinda eye-opening! Keeping my expectations in check.
Oddy phrased but I guess this should please most people.
I'm trying to imagine who was saying this....
Harada hates you AAK.
Kinda eye-opening! Keeping my expectations in check.
Oddy phrased but I guess this should please most people.
I'm trying to imagine who was saying this....
Harada hates you AAK.
MrCookiepants
Member
Wow, that's kind of sad.
And we have jerks in gaming side calling them lazy. Also, the Soulcalibur team must be working on a shoestring, lol.Harada really resents Tekken 4. I don't blame him, though. They lost half their sales. If that game never existed and we got T5 in its place, I wonder if the series could have peaked even higher.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Holy shit! TONS of info!
Fucking Bamco gave Harada quarter of T5 budget?
Now I see T7 from totally different angle.
Tekken Team - You guys cut 10-15 characters if you have to. Don't bother with animated backgrounds and cg endings. Throw away customs. 10 new profesional outfits on any characters and I'm happy.
Just polish the game with pennies Bamco gave you.
Fuck you Bamco and your Gundam Idolmasters.
Also 2 month build of Tekken 7 looks like that?! LORD!