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(Telegraph) World power swings back to America

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Ripclawe

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...44646/World-power-swings-back-to-America.html

Assumptions that the Great Republic must inevitably spiral into economic and strategic decline - so like the chatter of the late 1980s, when Japan was in vogue - will seem wildly off the mark by then.

Telegraph readers already know about the "shale gas revolution" that has turned America into the world’s number one producer of natural gas, ahead of Russia.

Less known is that the technology of hydraulic fracturing - breaking rocks with jets of water - will also bring a quantum leap in shale oil supply, mostly from the Bakken fields in North Dakota, Eagle Ford in Texas, and other reserves across the Mid-West.

"The US was the single largest contributor to global oil supply growth last year, with a net 395,000 barrels per day (b/d)," said Francisco Blanch from Bank of America, comparing the Dakota fields to a new North Sea.

Total US shale output is "set to expand dramatically" as fresh sources come on stream, possibly reaching 5.5m b/d by mid-decade. This is a tenfold rise since 2009.


The US already meets 72pc of its own oil needs, up from around 50pc a decade ago.

"The implications of this shift are very large for geopolitics, energy security, historical military alliances and economic activity. As US reliance on the Middle East continues to drop, Europe is turning more dependent and will likely become more exposed to rent-seeking behaviour from oligopolistic players," said Mr Blanch.

Meanwhile, the China-US seesaw is about to swing the other way. Offshoring is out, 're-inshoring' is the new fashion.

"Made in America, Again" - a report this month by Boston Consulting Group - said Chinese wage inflation running at 16pc a year for a decade has closed much of the cost gap. China is no longer the "default location" for cheap plants supplying the US.

A "tipping point" is near in computers, electrical equipment, machinery, autos and motor parts, plastics and rubber, fabricated metals, and even furniture.

"A surprising amount of work that rushed to China over the past decade could soon start to come back," said BCG's Harold Sirkin.

The gap in "productivity-adjusted wages" will narrow from 22pc of US levels in 2005 to 43pc (61pc for the US South) by 2015. Add in shipping costs, reliability woes, technology piracy, and the advantage shifts back to the US.

The list of "repatriates" is growing. Farouk Systems is bringing back assembly of hair dryers to Texas after counterfeiting problems; ET Water Systems has switched its irrigation products to California; Master Lock is returning to Milwaukee, and NCR is bringing back its ATM output to Georgia. NatLabs is coming home to Florida.

Boston Consulting expects up to 800,000 manufacturing jobs to return to the US by mid-decade, with a multiplier effect creating 3.2m in total. This would take some sting out of the Long Slump.


As Philadelphia Fed chief Sandra Pianalto said last week, US manufacturing is "very competitive" at the current dollar exchange rate. Whether intended or not, the Fed's zero rates and $2.3 trillion printing blitz have brought matters to an abrupt head for China.

Fed actions confronted Beijing with a Morton's Fork of ugly choices: revalue the yuan, or hang onto the mercantilist dollar peg and import a US monetary policy that is far too loose for a red-hot economy at the top of the cycle. Either choice erodes China's wage advantage. The Communist Party chose inflation.

Foreign exchange effects are subtle. They take a long to time play out as old plant slowly runs down, and fresh investment goes elsewhere. Yet you can see the damage to Europe from an over-strong euro in foreign direct investment (FDI) data.

Flows into the EU collapsed by 63p from 2007 to 2010 (UNCTAD data), and fell by 77pc in Italy. Flows into the US rose by 5pc.

Volkswagen is investing $4bn in America, led by its Chattanooga Passat plant. Korea's Samsung has begun a $20bn US investment blitz. Meanwhile, Intel, GM, and Caterpillar and other US firms are opting to stay at home rather than invest abroad.

Europe has only itself to blame for the current “hollowing out” of its industrial base. It craved its own reserve currency, without understanding how costly this “exorbitant burden” might prove to be.

China and the rising reserve powers have rotated a large chunk of their $10 trillion stash into EMU bonds to reduce their dollar weighting. The result is a euro too strong for half of EMU.


The European Central Bank has since made matters worse (for Italy, Spain, Portugal, and France) by keeping rates above those of the US, UK, and Japan. That has been a deliberate policy choice. It let real M1 deposits in Italy contract at a 7pc annual rate over the summer. May it live with the consequences.

The trade-weighted dollar has been sliding for a decade, falling 37pc since 2001. This roughly replicates the post-Plaza slide in the late 1980s, which was followed - with a lag - by 3pc of GDP shrinkage in the current account deficit. The US had a surplus by 1991.

Charles Dumas and Diana Choyleva from Lombard Street Research argue that this may happen again in their new book "The American Phoenix".

The switch in advantage to the US is relative. It does not imply a healthy US recovery. The global depression will grind on as much of the Western world tightens fiscal policy and slowly purges debt, and as China deflates its credit bubble.

Yet America retains a pack of trump cards, and not just in sixteen of the world’s top twenty universities.

It is almost the only economic power with a fertility rate above 2.0 - and therefore the ability to outgrow debt - in sharp contrast to the demographic decay awaiting Japan, China, Korea, Germany, Italy, and Russia.

Europe's EMU soap opera has shown why it matters that America is a genuine nation, forged by shared language and the ancestral chords of memory over two centuries, with institutions that ultimately work and a real central bank able to back-stop the system.


The 21st Century may be American after all, just like the last.
 
In regards to the shale production/alternate fuel sources, America is also going to start kicking some ass with biofuels come 10-20 years. Quote me on this when Neo-Neo-NeoGAF is the site name in 2031.
 

~Kinggi~

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Less known is that the technology of hydraulic fracturing - breaking rocks with jets of water - will also bring a quantum leap in shale oil supply, mostly from the Bakken fields in North Dakota, Eagle Ford in Texas, and other reserves across the Mid-West.

lmfao, having seen Gasland i weep for humanity. Bunch of fucktards.
 
I don't think so. As long as we have dumbshit politicians I'm certain that other countries with a stronger unified government will be able to control the "century". Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know.
 

JGS

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Misanthropy said:
I don't think so. As long as we have dumbshit politicians I'm certain that other countries with a stronger unified government will be able to control the "century". Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know.
Singapore ftw?
 

AstroLad

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eurogaf is going to hate this -- especially with everything that's been going on over there -- but this is awesome news. got lots of "told you so's" to give this week :D
 
K

kittens

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Awwww yeahhhh, we're gonna dominate the whole fucking world! Europe = third world confirmed. Suck ittttt.
 
~Kinggi~ said:
lmfao, having seen Gasland i weep for humanity. Bunch of fucktards.
Agreed, we need a better and cleaner energy source than fracking; one that doesnt ruin the health of the people and land around it. I know that wind energy is doing very well in Texas for electricity.

economic power with a fertility rate above 2.0
Why is this supposed to be a good thing for our future?? Only makes the coming food and water problems worse.
 
Soka said:
In regards to the shale production/alternate fuel sources, America is also going to start kicking some ass with biofuels come 10-20 years. Quote me on this when Neo-Neo-NeoGAF is the site name in 2031.

Once plains state politictians get thru their skulls switchgrass makes more per acre than corn. :\
 

Chiggs

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This guy was so confident he wrote a book about it:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0767923057/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Basically, he suggests that Americans have such confidence issues and that they always think they're failing at something, never realizing how good they have it and how strong and dominant they are.

He also mentions that China is a complete paper tiger. Guess we'll see....
 

Ether_Snake

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And 99% of American won't a see a dime of any of this supposed wealth.

No free health care for you, #1 country in the world!

Break a leg, go bankrupt!

Oh and BTW, shale gas fucks up everything, makes villages uninhabitable. Good luck with your lack of regulations.
 

p2535748

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Mr. E. Yis said:
Why is this supposed to be a good thing for our future?? Only makes the coming food and water problems worse.

Demographics are very important when you start looking at debt and social obligations. Consider social security, you need enough young people paying in to support the old people taking money out. Similarly, you can outgrow currently incurred debt by having a larger population and thus more output in the future.

Countries like Japan are potentially in serious trouble because too much of their population is old.

Also, to be clear, America's population growth isn't much above replacement, it's just higher than most developed nations.
 

loosus

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I wouldn't go so far as to say that power is back in American hands, because I think the glory days are long over, but I do have a few local anecdotes: there are a few shops nearby that haven't been occupied in probably 25 years that are getting ready to be plants again and they're going to hire actual people to work there -- lots of them. Admittedly, they're not $100,000 a year jobs, but in this area, $36,000 isn't bad money.

My understanding is that some of the jobs are coming from overseas and that some are just new output.
 

Tristam

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Chiggs said:
This guy was so confident he wrote a book about it:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0767923057/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Basically, he suggests that Americans have such confidence issues and that they always think they're failing at something, never realizing how good they have it and how strong and dominant they are.

He also mentions that China is a complete paper tiger. Guess we'll see....

I at least know that our health care system is inferior to South Korea's, having spent an unreasonable amount of time sick in hospitals there over the past two years.

We'll see about China, I guess.

EDIT: Apparently, in 2050 Japan and Turkey will wage a space war with the United States. Cool story, bro!
 
Ether_Snake said:
And 99% of American won't a see a dime of any of this supposed wealth.
In the case of hydrofracking, that's not true at all.

People are getting rich overnight. And we're talking super poor people in the middle of nowhere.
 

Jenga

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ITT: bunch of angry europeans angry that they will continue to fall in financial disaster while america again becomes the lone super power as china also spirals into out of control debt

USA USA USA
 

mre

Golden Domers are chickenshit!!
Thank God. This time can we use our influence to disabuse the rest of the world of this silly "evolution" nonsense?
 

Ether_Snake

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BertramCooper said:
In the case of hydrofracking, that's not true at all.

People are getting rich overnight. And we're talking super poor people in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah sure. Then they fall sick and move out.
 

Duki

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Mr. E. Yis said:
Why is this supposed to be a good thing for our future?? Only makes the coming food and water problems worse.
lol?

us can feed itself many times over with its current production, and production keeps going up
 

Chiggs

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Jenga said:
we're gonna dominate the world for another century AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT MUTHAFUCKA

And just think about what creepy black budget aircraft are patrolling the skies at this moment, just waiting to stealth kill some Chinese hackers.
 
~Kinggi~ said:
lmfao, having seen Gasland i weep for humanity. Bunch of fucktards.
Bring on the flame thrower water faucets, I'm ready. In all seriousness, the fracturing process is so bad for the environment it a clusterfuck ready to happen. Our government won't do anything about it though and will keep trying to get as much gas and oil that they can for "economic" reasons.
 

Phobophile

A scientist and gentleman in the manner of Batman.
The switch in advantage to the US is relative. It does not imply a healthy US recovery. The global depression will grind on as much of the Western world tightens fiscal policy and slowly purges debt, and as China deflates its credit bubble.

This is probably the most important paragraph in the entire article.
 
SatelliteOfLove said:
Once plains state politictians get thru their skulls switchgrass makes more per acre than corn. :\

Fuck 'em then. We'll keep improving the efficiency and yields on our biofuels until the point that we're more affordable and environmentally friendly than the taxpayer subsidized corn ethanol. Ethanol, butanol, and isobutanol for all!... even if it takes many more years/decades to make it a serious contender as a replacement for petroleum and coal.
 
Lactose_Intolerant said:
Bring on the flame thrower water faucets, I'm ready. In all seriousness, the fracturing process is so bad for the environment it a clusterfuck ready to happen. Our government won't do anything about it though and will keep trying to get as much gas and oil that they can for "economic" reasons.

Ever hear of a water filtration plant? God damn are Malthusians helpless.
 

Tristam

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Chiggs said:
Seriously, best part about that book.

Damn, and not only are we going to war with Japan, but they'll fire on our 'battle star' space stations from secret bases on the moon!

Shit's gonna be off the hook!
 

Deku

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The source is an opinion piece. And as the saying goes everyone has one of those.

Impossible to predict anything. 20 years ago Japan was a safe bet. People forget now but in the late 80s Japan had a 4 trillion GDP to the US' 7 trillion.

10 years ago, it looked like US post-cold war internet fueled bubble of DOW to 20,000 was not going to stop.

Right now it's all about the decline and fall of the west and China/India.

We'll see :)
 

Slayven

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Deku said:
The source is an opinion piece. And as the saying goes everyone has one of those.

Impossible to predict anything. 20 years ago Japan was a safe bet. People forget now but in the late 80s Japan had a 4 trillion GDP to the US' 7 trillion.

10 years ago, it looked like US post-cold war internet fueled bubble of DOW to 20,000 was not going to stop.

Right now it's all about the decline and fall of the west and China/India.

We'll see :)
As an 80s baby I am disspointed I am not a wage slave in the United States of New Nippon.
 
Deku said:
The source is an opinion piece. And as the saying goes everyone has one of those.

Impossible to predict anything. 20 years ago Japan was a safe bet. People forget now but in the late 80s Japan had a 4 trillion GDP to the US' 7 trillion.

10 years ago, it looked like US post-cold war internet fueled bubble of DOW to 20,000 was not going to stop.

Right now it's all about the decline and fall of the west and China/India.

We'll see :)

It's impossible to predict what exactly will happen.

But any well informed person of a certain topic should be able to properly evaluate current trends and form a prediction of the topic at some logical probability.

The problem is that most people only consider the obvious very recent trends harped by the mass media, yet are not aware of the upcoming technological advancements and likely future geopolitical events.
 

Deku

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Slayven said:
As an 80s baby I am disspointed I am not a wage slave in the United States of New Nippon.

Pan AM in the future, and Japan Inc spamming Geishas everywhere.

Even Blade Runner got it wrong =/

bladerunner.jpg
 

Chiggs

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Tristam said:
Damn, and not only are we going to war with Japan, but they'll fire on our 'battle star' space stations from secret bases on the moon!

Shit's gonna be off the hook!

Hey, the book is called "The Next 100 Years" for a reason. ;)
 

hsukardi

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Something Wicked said:
It's impossible to predict what exactly will happen.

But any well informed person of a certain topic should be able to properly evaluate current trends and form a prediction of the topic at some logical probability.

It would've been impossible to predict Apple's rise in the tech sector because an idea changed the business.

Basic factors and advantages matter, but innovation drives a lot of progress.
 
While some of his analysis is based on trends (more wars, less casualties), he obviously pulls some stuff out of his ass just for fun like the unholy alliance of Turkey and Japan in a space war with the US.

Still, it would be cool to see a similar analysis from 1911 and how it compares to present.
 

explodet

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Slayven said:
As an 80s baby I am disspointed I am not a wage slave in the United States of New Nippon.
The whole cyberpunk/NeoJapan thing really fizzed out, didn't it?
Sure we've got rampant corporatism, but it's just not the same.
 

Chiggs

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happyfunball said:
While some of his analysis is based on trends (more wars, less casualties), he obviously pulls some stuff out of his ass just for fun like the unholy alliance of Turkey and Japan in a space war with the US.

Yeah, he even admits that in the opening, but tension between the US, Japan and Turkey isn't exactly far-fetched given the right circumstances.

The book is definitely worth a read, but I know some of the content will make people flip out.

Deku said:
Book's author is George Friedman. Article's author is Ambrose Evans-Pritchard I'm confused.

That's courtesy of me not providing the necessary clarity. I thought the book was rather topical, even though it's not by the same author. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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