What input mode are you in?
Home cinema.
EDIT:
In-game Max brightness 2000/315
What input mode are you in?
That doesn't seem to be the issue I have with the dim HDR game mode on the C7. In my case no detail is lost in darker areas, it's just that the overall picture is not quite as bright as other modes (highlights in particular). Shadow detail is totally fine. Are you sure your black level is set up ok?
Opposite for me. I have the MiBox 4k and it doesn't support Amazon Video. I use the built in app for that and it's great
Home cinema.
Hmm. Can I suggest that you connect your ps4 (pro?) to the TV just to test out? Try the following settings:
PS4 Video Settings
RGB Range: Limited
Everything else on Auto
TV Settings
Input Mode : Game Console (to open this menu, hold and press the button between Netflix and Amazon on remote)
Picture Mode : HDR Game
Color : 48
Color Temperature : W46
Dynamic Contrast : Low
Color Gamut : Extended
Black Level : Low
General -> HDMI DEEP ULTRA -> On
If this does not work I don't know mate
EDIT:
Actually one more question, what is your viewing environment like? What is the ambient like light?
Reason I ask is most mastering is done in a low light/no light environment. Try the above settings with no lights on/little ambient light. Unfortunately unlike SDR, there is no way to artificially increase the brightness of HDR content (dynamic contrast but yuck). OLEDS already struggle to replicate HDR content mastered beyond 1000 nits. That 1000 nits will look completely different in a dark room vs a well lit room. Until they have HDR modes (like HLG) that take into account ambient light, its best to mimic the viewing environment that the content was mastered in.
Oh man, that MiBox is an Android streamer and it doesn't include Amazon Video like built-in Android TV does? Man, that's weird.
I mainly ended up using the built-in Android TV app since in the beginning it was seemingly the most often updated for me, like when they added UHD HDR.
Stupid right? Not only that, but it's not available on the Play Store for my device, even though it's an "official" Android TV. HBO GO also isn't supported whereas it's supported on the Shield. I can't even Chromecast HBO to my MiBox whereas I can Cast it to my Vizio TV or a regular Chromecast just fine. I hate Google sometimes.
Also, I didn't realize you were talking about an AndroidTV. I thought we were talking about LG WebOS haha
Stupid right? Not only that, but it's not available on the Play Store for my device, even though it's an "official" Android TV. HBO GO also isn't supported whereas it's supported on the Shield. I can't even Chromecast HBO to my MiBox whereas I can Cast it to my Vizio TV or a regular Chromecast just fine. I hate Google sometimes.
Also, I didn't realize you were talking about an AndroidTV. I thought we were talking about LG WebOS haha
Amazon doesn't want to put their app on the Play store. The only devices that get it are from manufacturers that they have individual deals with (like Sony and Nvidia).
I believe at one point, someone extracted the Amazon Video apk from a Sony TV and got it working on other Android TV devices, but Amazon got smart to it and started blocking non-Sony devices from using it.
Amazon doesn't want to put their app on the Play store. The only devices that get it are from manufacturers that they have individual deals with (like Sony and Nvidia).
I believe at one point, someone extracted the Amazon Video apk from a Sony TV and got it working on other Android TV devices, but Amazon got smart to it and started blocking non-Sony devices from using it.
For some reason my C7 has really shitty wireless and takes forever load vids on Netflix but my PS4 works fine. Only issue is that Netflix loads into HDR and gives everything a brown tinge. Any ideas on what settings I can change?
For some reason my C7 has really shitty wireless and takes forever load vids on Netflix but my PS4 works fine. Only issue is that Netflix loads into HDR and gives everything a brown tinge. Any ideas on what settings I can change?
Maybe something like the users in the thread below are experiencing?
https://www.avforums.com/threads/netflix-varying-resolution-issues.2120393/
Had the same issue wired on a C7Change that setting which goes from wireless to wired.
Maybe something like the users in the thread below are experiencing?
https://www.avforums.com/threads/netflix-varying-resolution-issues.2120393/
For some reason my C7 has really shitty wireless and takes forever load vids on Netflix but my PS4 works fine. Only issue is that Netflix loads into HDR and gives everything a brown tinge. Any ideas on what settings I can change?
Right now I'm looking at the 55 inch LG B7 OLED, but I have a question about subtitle related image retention.
Several years ago I purchased a 51 inch Samsung F5300 plasma screen and, while I appreciated the picture quality, it made watching anything subtitled into English incredibly difficult. As I watched a film, retention from the subtitles would accumulate at the bottom of the screen until, after about 10-15 minutes, I had a dark bar of retained text marring the image. At the time, I couldn't tell if this was due to a fault with the panel itself, the settings I'd selected, or if plasma was just inherently incapable of reliably displaying subtitles. In the end, I returned the plasma for an LED.
Since OLED is susceptible to image retention, I was wondering if anyone who has had experience with subtitled content could comment on my concerns.
Week 4 results of Rtings OLED burn-in test are not pretty
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/permanent-image-retention-burn-in-lcd-oled
Seems like 500 hours is enough for burn-in to become clearly visible to the naked eye with the light level set at 60.
Even the test where they run the logo for 2 hours on then 3.5 hours off has visible burn-in, though less obvious.
IMO those results are pretty great for OLED. I don't think anyone uses the same content for 20h a day for weeks?
About 3 months out from CES, what is everyone expecting? More OLED competition? Focus on brightness for improved HDR? (Hopefully not) 8K?
About 3 months out from CES, what is everyone expecting? More OLED competition? Focus on brightness for improved HDR? (Hopefully not) 8K?
Right now I'm looking at the 55 inch LG B7 OLED, but I have a question about subtitle related image retention.
Several years ago I purchased a 51 inch Samsung F5300 plasma screen and, while I appreciated the picture quality, it made watching anything subtitled into English incredibly difficult. As I watched a film, retention from the subtitles would accumulate at the bottom of the screen until, after about 10-15 minutes, I had a dark bar of retained text marring the image. At the time, I couldn't tell if this was due to a fault with the panel itself, the settings I'd selected, or if plasma was just inherently incapable of reliably displaying subtitles. In the end, I returned the plasma for an LED.
Since OLED is susceptible to image retention, I was wondering if anyone who has had experience with subtitled content could comment on my concerns.
Hoping to see big HDR/motion improvements for OLED, the death of edge-lit LCDs and the peace of mind HDMI 2.1 will provide.About 3 months out from CES, what is everyone expecting? More OLED competition? Focus on brightness for improved HDR? (Hopefully not) 8K?
About 3 months out from CES, what is everyone expecting? More OLED competition? Focus on brightness for improved HDR? (Hopefully not) 8K?
Trying to decide between the X900E or the X930E. I've gone back and forth several times. Significant price difference to the point I could go 65" even with the 900.
Perceived downsides: 1)slower processor to the point I've read even changing the volume in HDR content feels laggy; 2) possible image retention and I'll be gaming on it: 3) the 930 is brighter and apparently will get Dolby Vision in the future.
Main uses will be streaming, PS4 Pro, and possibly buying a UHD player. Anyone have either set and some feedback? I've considered an LG but not sold on the price and it will be in a bright room.
The 930 has the same processor, apparently. Just a different image processing chipset. Also, the 65" version of the 900 has image uniformity issues.Trying to decide between the X900E or the X930E. I've gone back and forth several times. Significant price difference to the point I could go 65" even with the 900.
Perceived downsides: 1)slower processor to the point I've read even changing the volume in HDR content feels laggy; 2) possible image retention and I'll be gaming on it: 3) the 930 is brighter and apparently will get Dolby Vision in the future.
Main uses will be streaming, PS4 Pro, and possibly buying a UHD player. Anyone have either set and some feedback? I've considered an LG but not sold on the price and it will be in a bright room.
4k@120 is a given, I'd say. Why couldn't vrr be a thing before Navi? Freesync 2 is a shoe-in if they want it to be, right?I expect LG to showcase OLED panels between 27-43 inches. Very confident that 4k@120hz will be a thing for 2018 models. VRR won't be implemented until AMD launches Navi. Sony and Panasonic double down on OLED.
Panel improvements: 850-1000 nits and sub 17ms input lag
I have no idea at how many hours I'm at now on this TV, I've had it since June 15th this year. But so far no permanent burn in. Jesus, thank god too. This does sound a bit worrying though.
However they are talking about static logos and while a lot of games have static things, it's not like we play these games 24/7. So do we have reason to worry? Also the games I play so far, their HUD elements don't even give IR.
The image retention thing is nothing to be concerned about. I've never seen it and, if you look at the actual numbers rtings measured, it's negligible. I would not factor this into my decision.
The 930 has the same processor, apparently. Just a different image processing chipset. Also, the 65" version of the 900 has image uniformity issues.
And yeah, the image retention thing is a bunch of nothing
I haven't seen any gradient banding in HDR PC on my PC. Is it just a PS4 thing? Also I saw somebody post that if you change output to 4:2:0 on ps4 pro, the banding issue goes away.
Somebody here or an avs forum posted comparison shots, and the banding indeed was gone when pro was set to 420.Has anyone been able to confirm this? I'd test myself, but have been gone all weekend.
Week 4 results of Rtings OLED burn-in test are not pretty
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/permanent-image-retention-burn-in-lcd-oled
Seems like 500 hours is enough for burn-in to become clearly visible to the naked eye with the light level set at 60.
Even the test where they run the logo for 2 hours on then 3.5 hours off has visible burn-in, though less obvious.
Somebody here or an avs forum posted comparison shots, and the banding indeed was gone when pro was set to 420.
The Rtings test isn't ridiculous. It's a test to see how far they can push it.
Ok it's about as much use to a consumer as those drop-tests for phones. Nobody uses a TV like they do in their test, unless they are shut-ins who sleep for 2 hours a day and just watch the same looping video over and over, so what is the point?
Ok it's about as much use to a consumer as those drop-tests for phones. Nobody uses a TV like they do in their test, unless they are shut-ins who sleep for 2 hours a day and just watch the same looping video over and over, so what is the point?
Thanks! Wife just nixed the 65" idea when I showed her a side-by-side comparison with our current 47" (which she already thinks is too large). So that pretty much makes the 900E the choice.
Not really though, because TV manufacturers put these panels to the test during the design process in similar ways. If it can take 500 hours of abuse, then chances are it's going to be decent enough for consumers. If it could only take 100 hours, then it'd be more alarming.
I'd rather they spend their time investigating why some people are getting apparent burn-in under normal use (such as yourself right?). Stress-tests just seem like a waste of energy, literally.