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Terri Schiavo has died.

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DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Terri, your fight is over, rest now, rest peacefully, may both sides of your family regain some semblance of balance, celebrate your life before your accident and see you graciously laid to rest.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/31/schiavo/index.html

"I don't understand why Michael Schiavo at some point didn't walk away," Gibbs said.

Uh wtf kinda dumb statement is that? Maybe because he felt some sense of duty for his wife? Maybe he loved her?
 

shuri

Banned
Thanks God FINALLY. It must have been hell to have your mind trapped in a dead body for 10+ years. Actually maybe her mind was dead too.
 

mrroboto

Banned
DarienA said:
Terri, your fight is over, rest now, rest peacefully, may both sides of your family regain some semblance of balance, celebrate your life before your accident and see you graciously laid to rest.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/31/schiavo/index.html

gotta disagree with you here darien. she didn't die by accident. she killed herself by sticking her fingers down her mouth a few too many times. it caused an electrolyte imbalance in her body and triggered a heart attack and then caused her brain damage from oxygen caught off to her brain.

i really have no sympathy for her.

i pray that God forgives her for killing herself.

and i don't say this to start a flame war. it's just that many people including the media are leaving out that fact.

kinda like a person who smokes and then gets lung cancer and dies. they brought it on themselves. hard to have sympathy for that.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
mrroboto said:
gotta disagree with you here darien. she didn't die by accident. she killed herself by sticking her fingers down her mouth a few too many times. it caused an electrolyte imbalance in her body and triggered a heart attack and then caused her brain damage from oxygen caught off to her brain.

i really have no sympathy for her.

i pray that God forgives her for killing herself.

and i don't say this to start a flame war. it's just that many people including the media are leaving out that fact.

kinda like a person who smokes and then gets lung cancer and dies. they brought it on themselves. hard to have sympathy for that.

I don't have a problem with your stance... I'm just not sure what part of my post you're disagreeing with.
 

Borys

Banned
gotta disagree with you here darien. she didn't die by accident. she killed herself by sticking her fingers down her mouth a few too many times. it caused an electrolyte imbalance in her body and triggered a heart attack and then caused her brain damage from oxygen caught off to her brain.

Holy hell are you serious?
I do the same very often when I have to force myself to vomit... how can this trigger a heart attack? I've been doing this for like 12 years actually, it's a strange "condition" I have but I never thought I could kill myself this way?

Any place where I can read real unbiased Schiavo story?
 

Heezzi

Banned
DarienA said:
Terri, your fight is over, rest now, rest peacefully, may both sides of your family regain some semblance of balance, celebrate your life before your accident and see you graciously laid to rest.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/31/schiavo/index.html

"I don't understand why Michael Schiavo at some point didn't walk away," Gibbs said.

Uh wtf kinda dumb statement is that? Maybe because he felt some sense of duty for his wife? Maybe he loved her?

If that was the case he wouldn't have got with that other woman and had 2 kids with her.
 

mrroboto

Banned
DarienA said:
I don't have a problem with your stance... I'm just not sure what part of my post you're disagreeing with.

"before your accident"

honestly darien, it was *not* an accident what happened to her.

no big deal though. i'm just surprised more people haven't brought up the fact she was bullemic(sp?) and this is ultimately what killed her.
 

aparisi2274

Member
mrroboto said:
gotta disagree with you here darien. she didn't die by accident. she killed herself by sticking her fingers down her mouth a few too many times. it caused an electrolyte imbalance in her body and triggered a heart attack and then caused her brain damage from oxygen caught off to her brain.

i really have no sympathy for her.

i pray that God forgives her for killing herself.

and i don't say this to start a flame war. it's just that many people including the media are leaving out that fact.

kinda like a person who smokes and then gets lung cancer and dies. they brought it on themselves. hard to have sympathy for that.


You know as happy as I am that she isnt suffering anymore, I have to agree with you 100%. Everyone is out in front of her Hospice praying, and hoping, and saying that her husband is an evil person for doing this, but do they realize she put herself there? She made herself a vegetable. I mean like you said, she had an eating disorder and eventually from sticking fingers down her throat to many times, she had a heart attack, cut oxygen off to her brain, and was then in a veggie state for 15yrs. I just hope they dont go on and on now with her burial arrangements. her husband wants her cremated, and the parents of course dont. I mean dont they know her husband is still her legal Guardian.

I have more anger toward her parents then I do to him or her. All the time they spent wasting away with appeals and court orders, and what not, they could have spent that time with their daughter and made peace with everything, instead of making the whole damn thing into a media circus.
 

mrroboto

Banned
Borys said:
Holy hell are you serious?
I do the same very often when I have to force myself to vomit... how can this trigger a heart attack? I've been doing this for like 12 years actually, it's a strange "condition" I have but I never thought I could kill myself this way?

Any place where I can read real unbiased Schiavo story?

look, i'm not making this up. it's totally what happened to her. i'd suggest you stop doing it yourself too. go read up on it.
 

aparisi2274

Member
Heezzi said:
If that was the case he wouldn't have got with that other woman and had 2 kids with her.

So lets get this straight, you are pissed at him, because he went on with his life, knowing that his wife would never be the same person? Come on dude, so what he met another girl, and had some kids. He never once walked away, or turned his back on his wife. He was up until this morning still married to her. She was dead 15 yrs ago, but he stayed there, and kept it going, he could have divorced her the minute she became a veg. and then could have married and had kids, but he tried to do the honorable thing.

Ahhh, anyway, I am not gonna get into any arguments with people. She did this to herself, and I feel bad, but it was a destiny she could have avoided if she just sought counseling.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
mrroboto said:
"before your accident"

honestly darien, it was *not* an accident what happened to her.

no big deal though. i'm just surprised more people haven't brought up the fact she was bullemic(sp?) and this is ultimately what killed her.

Ah ok I know about her full history and it's funny when I kept reading my post to see what you disagree with my eyes kept sliding right by the word accident.

However IIRC Bulimia Nervosa is a psychological disorder. I have yet to see anything that talks about how the diagnosis came about and if she was being treated for it. Folks suffering from bulimia don't do it because they just think throwing up is fun... it's an actual disorder that requires psychological and medical treatments to resolve.

Heezzi said:
If that was the case he wouldn't have got with that other woman and had 2 kids with her.

So you're saying he should have stayed single for the rest of his life? Your stupidity sometimes goes above and beyond what I think you're capable of. Now if he had the 2 kids before his wife's accident I'd agree with you... if he didn't... well I need you to flesh out your position a little bit more.... either that or STFU... one or the other is cool with me. ;)
 

Bishman

Member
mrroboto said:
gotta disagree with you here darien. she didn't die by accident. she killed herself by sticking her fingers down her mouth a few too many times. it caused an electrolyte imbalance in her body and triggered a heart attack and then caused her brain damage from oxygen caught off to her brain.

i really have no sympathy for her.

i pray that God forgives her for killing herself.

and i don't say this to start a flame war. it's just that many people including the media are leaving out that fact.

kinda like a person who smokes and then gets lung cancer and dies. they brought it on themselves. hard to have sympathy for that.

Good. Now she can rest in peace. And I didn't know she had an eating disorder, the media never tells you the whole truth, heh. If that is the case, knew you are right, why give her sympathy?
 

manngc

Member
Would anyone care to elaborate on possible motivations (outside of "love") for why these people went through this? According to stories this thing started with the 1993 malpractice suit. Basically what I'm interested in is where would the money (consorium and trust fund)go if a divorce would have happened and the parent took custody and what would have happened if he had pulled the plug earlier.

Mann
 

Nerevar

they call me "Man Gravy".
Borys said:
Holy hell are you serious?
I do the same very often when I have to force myself to vomit... how can this trigger a heart attack? I've been doing this for like 12 years actually, it's a strange "condition" I have but I never thought I could kill myself this way?

Any place where I can read real unbiased Schiavo story?

wait, what? You're bullimic? Uh, you do realize that this is a disorder, right?
 
mrroboto said:
gotta disagree with you here darien. she didn't die by accident. she killed herself by sticking her fingers down her mouth a few too many times. it caused an electrolyte imbalance in her body and triggered a heart attack and then caused her brain damage from oxygen caught off to her brain.

i really have no sympathy for her.

i pray that God forgives her for killing herself.

and i don't say this to start a flame war. it's just that many people including the media are leaving out that fact.

kinda like a person who smokes and then gets lung cancer and dies. they brought it on themselves. hard to have sympathy for that.


Mr. Roboto so heartwarming to read his posts. You can feel the empahty in every sentence.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
February 28
The Schindlers file for a divorce on behalf of their daughter but Florida Circuit Judge George W. Greer rejects the motion, which is appealed.

What in the Hell?!?!??! I didn't even know you could DO something like that....
 

ShadowRed

Banned
mrroboto said:
gotta disagree with you here darien. she didn't die by accident. she killed herself by sticking her fingers down her mouth a few too many times. it caused an electrolyte imbalance in her body and triggered a heart attack and then caused her brain damage from oxygen caught off to her brain.

i really have no sympathy for her.

i pray that God forgives her for killing herself.

and i don't say this to start a flame war. it's just that many people including the media are leaving out that fact.

kinda like a person who smokes and then gets lung cancer and dies. they brought it on themselves. hard to have sympathy for that.




You gotta be kiding me. By that line of logic then a person who dies of a heart attack killed themselves because they ate too much red meat. Dude get a freaking heart. It's a tragic thing all around no one won everyone lost it's sad. A man lost his wife a woman lost her life after being stuck in a PVS for 15 years and the parents lost their daughter. Just leave it at that and don't try and be a big tough ass.
 

mrmyth

Member
Heezzi said:
If that was the case he wouldn't have got with that other woman and had 2 kids with her.


Once again, STFU until you familiarize yourself with the facts of the case. Don't you have a mirror to fap to or something?
 

Heezzi

Banned
DarienA said:
Ah ok I know about her full history and it's funny when I kept reading my post to see what you disagree with my eyes kept sliding right by the word accident.

So you're saying he should have stayed single for the rest of his life? Your stupidity sometimes goes above and beyond what I think you're capable of. Now if he had the 2 kids before his wife's accident I'd agree with you... if he didn't... well I need you to flesh out your position a little bit more.... either that or STFU... one or the other is cool with me. ;)

Dumbass, if he wanted to do what he did, he could have divorced his wife. You need to shut the fuck up.
 
Heezzi said:
Dumbass, if he wanted to do what he did, he could have divorced his wife. You need to shut the fuck up.

I could never be a Mod for these forums. The GAF population would total 15-20 peeps tops.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
The Rev. Frank Pavone was with the Schindlers during their final visit. He said, "This is not only a death with all the sadness that brings, this is a killing. And for that we not only grieve that Terri has passed, but we grieve that our nation has allowed such an atrocity as this, and we pray that it will never happen again."
torture10-may04.jpg


We hear ya, but we just ain't listenin'.
 

Heezzi

Banned
mrmyth said:
Once again, STFU until you familiarize yourself with the facts of the case. Don't you have a mirror to fap to or something?

You obviously don't know shit about the case. You're probably just heard about just now. Either way shut the fuck up. You don't know me.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Heezzi said:
Dumbass, if he wanted to do what he did, he could have divorced his wife. You need to shut the fuck up.

He stayed married to Terri for technical reasons. If he divorced her, then power would revert back to her parents, who wanted to keep her alive indefinitely; not out of love for their daughter, but out of what's clearly irrational denial. He loved Terri, he still does. And he stayed married to her so he could let her die on her terms, and not be kept "alive" in such a state.

I think the fact that he turned down money, offers of divorce, and spent the entire malpractice suit money on her care speaks volumes. Greed was never involved here, protecting Terri from her parents was paramount.

So, why don't you take your own God damned advice, okay?
 

manngc

Member
Does anyone actually know what the monetary concequences would have been had he divorced her in the mid-90's and the parents had obtained custody?

Mann
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Heezzi said:
Dumbass, if he wanted to do what he did, he could have divorced his wife. You need to shut the fuck up.

So instead of responding and fleshing out your statement this is your response? Pitiful.
 

Goreomedy

Console Market Analyst
Err... the 24 hour news stations have Helicopters over the Florida Hospice where she died, cameras aimed at the back door to get a glimpse of the body when it is transported.

How fucking sick is that?
 
Sal Paradise Jr said:
I could never be a Mod for these forums. The GAF population would total 15-20 peeps tops.

I used to think that, but look at how much fun it is to watch the Heezzis and Olimarios make fools of themselves.
 

B'z-chan

Banned
Well thats that (insert fatality picture) The EVIL WIN THE EVIL wins

PS any word on if her husband is going to collect on her life insurance or anything like that? When do you think he'll get married again? Now since she's dead and all. I know its mean but he's a fucker a fucked up fucker.
 

Heezzi

Banned
xsarien said:
He stayed married to Terri for technical reasons. If he divorced her, then power would revert back to her parents, who wanted to keep her alive indefinitely, not out of love for their daughter, but out of what's clearly irrational denial. He loved Terri, he still does. And he stayed married to her so he could let her die on her terms, and not be kept "alive" in such a state.

I think the fact that he turned down money, offers, and spent the entire malpractice suit money on her care speaks volumes. Greed was never involved here, protecting Terri from her own parents was paramount.

I don't think that is the case. The money has been siting in a trust fund since 92-93, Personally I believe it was about the money. If he took the money that others offered, it would blow his cover and everyone would then see it was about the money. Then even more people would harrass him and try to kill him. So to have the general public have sympathy for him and get the money, he would just take what left. One thing you have to look at, his being trying to get it removed since 98. He says that she didn't want to be kept alive if something happened to her. The only proof of that that is him saying that. If I pushed you off a bridge, and goto trial for it, and when they ask why did I do it, I say "the victim asked me to". You think they will believe that? All this is Government assisted suicide. How is this any different from terminally ill patients getting Kavorkian to kill them? They put him in prison for that. Yet they allow this? What's up with that.

I had a aunt that was terminally ill and the only reason why she wasn't revived is because she signed a order for it. You don't know what the patient wanted. The parents doctors had stated that she could improve with therapy. What that even tried? No.

If she is a veggie and can't feel pain, why would it matter if she is kept alive longer to try therapy? There would be no reason to rush pulling her off the tube.
 

Heezzi

Banned
There have been accounts of nurses hearing Mike Shavio coming into the room asking, "Is the bitch dead yet?". Yeah, that's a real loving husband alright.
 
manngc said:
Does anyone actually know what the monetary concequences would have been had he divorced her in the mid-90's and the parents had obtained custody?

Mann

I've read somewhere(forget where at the moment), that 300 k or so went to michael for distress/loss/etc and the rest was alloted for medical/lawyer stuff.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
good god, I could care less about his real or assumed motivations. She died over a decade ago.
 

Do The Mario

Unconfirmed Member
Heezzi said:
There have been accounts of nurses hearing Mike Shavio coming into the room asking, "Is the bitch dead yet?". Yeah, that's a real loving husband alright.

That’s virtually slander, a good poster would provide a reference.
 

Xenon

Member
RIP. The world no reason to be in their business. This was between the husban and her parents.

All I can say is I would never want to live like that.
 
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