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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/texas-white-nationalist-protest-trnd/index.html

(CNN) - Texas A&M has canceled a white nationalist protest planned in September, citing safety concerns.

White nationalists, neo-Nazis and other extremist groups had planned to hold a "white lives matter" rally at Texas A&M on September 11.
The school canceled the rally Monday evening "because of concerns about the safety of its students, faculty, staff, and the public."
Richard Spencer, the white supremacist who helped found the so-called alt-right movement, was set to speak at the event, according to the Battalion, Texas A&M's student newspaper.
The Battalion reports the organizer for the Texas event, Preston Wiginton, was inspired by the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. That protest drew a large number of counterprotesters and turned violent. One woman was killed and dozens injured when police say a man with views sympathetic to neo-Nazis deliberately drove his car into a crowd.

Spencer spoke at Texas A&M in December, sparking outrage and protests on campus. The school eventually changed its campus speaker policy because of the controversy over his appearance. The new rules required outside groups or individuals to have sponsorship from a university-sanctioned group to reserve campus facilities.
The university cited that policy change in canceling the upcoming event.
"None of the 1,200-plus campus organizations invited Preston Wiginton nor did they agree to sponsor his events in December 2016 or on September 11 of this year," the school said in a statement.
Wiginton had planned to hold his event in Rudder Plaza -- an outdoor space in the middle of campus.
"Linking the tragedy of Charlottesville with the Texas A&M event creates a major security risk on our campus," the statement said.
During his December appearance, Spencer delivered his message of white supremacy for roughly two hours to a room of 400 people, the vast majority of whom were there in protest.
"At the end of the day, America belongs to white men," he said at the time.

Students had been "planning a number of various [counter-] protests," Josh McCormack, editor in chief of the Battalion, told CNN. "The most popular protests seems to be a recreation of the 'maroon wall.'"
The maroon wall is essentially a human chain, McCormack said. In July 2012, members of the controversial Westboro Baptist Church came to the area to protest a soldier's funeral at a local church. When they showed up, they were greeted by hundreds of students who linked together to block their view.

Glad the school is taking action this time after the events last December

 

[Common Knowledge]

Spencer's having a bad week. He just needs another punch to top it off.

 

[Shaanyboi]

On September 11th of all days...

Fuck these losers.

 

[Crossing Eden]

White nationalists, neo-Nazis and other extremist groups had planned to hold a "white lives matter" rally at Texas A&M on September 11.

Oh absolutely fuck off!

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Your move, UF.

 

[The Dink]

On September 11th of all days...

Fuck these losers.

Gotta extort those fears and tears for maximum douchebaggery.

 

[perfectchaos007]

I heard this on the news yesterday, and there are talks to have the white lives matter march on a street near campus instead.

 

[Common Knowledge]

Your move, UF.

Didn't they already cancel?

 

[Ovid]

Your move, UF.

They already cancelled it.

 

[SS4Gogita]

Didn't they already cancel?

They did: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1420066

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Didn't they already cancel?

I don't know. Last thing I remember was the president putting out a letter basically saying they can't do anything.

Edit: Ah, good. Yeah I saw A&M cancelled yesterday or the day before. Good to see UF did too.

 

[AmayaPapaya]

They just killed someone and admitted they would kill hundreds of people, if need be, in that Vice doc. I wouldn't want these guys anywhere, and they should be labeled terrorists.

 

[somecrazymember]

I dont understand. This was gonna take place on a school? wtf? How did the school accept it in the 1st place? Genuine question, i'm not from the US, does this happen often?

 

[perfectchaos007]

I dont understand. This was gonna take place on a school? wtf? How did the school accept it in the 1st place? Genuine question, i'm not from the US, does this happen often?

Those buildings on campus can be rented out when they are not in use for classes. So Spencer and his nationalist party had the funds and were planning on renting out one of the on campus buildings for a few hours to hold their rally.

 

[flkraven]

I love how NOW it's taboo to have a white nationalist rally on a college campus.

 

[LiK]

Spencer is having quite a large collection of L's this week.

 

[Nepenthe]

I love how NOW it's taboo to have a white nationalist rally on a college campus.

Only took the assassination of a white woman for people to rethink this shit. White lives matter indeed.

 

[Slayven]

I love how NOW it's taboo to have a white nationalist rally on a college campus.

Hey before it was just happening to LGBTQ and POC, now it is serious

 

[HiiiLife]

I love how NOW it's taboo to have a white nationalist rally on a college campus.

Fr. They don't hear you smh

 

[True Underdog]

Good.

 

[LowlySmokeGuy]

They should have waited to cancel it just a few days before, so the Nazis couldn't plan something else for 9/11.

 

[Raven117]

When (and Im sure its just a matter of when), the lawsuit gets filed...Im not sure Texas A&M can win it on a legal basis.

 

[Kthulhu]

I love how NOW it's taboo to have a white nationalist rally on a college campus.

At least something is starting to change for the better.

 

[Username1198]

 

[Skinny Pete]

Good to see.

 

[TheMan]

I can't believe they agreed to a fucking nazi rally in the first place. Are they a public school?

 

[Slayven]

When (and Im sure its just a matter of when), the lawsuit gets filed...Im not sure Texas A&M can win it on a legal basis.

His event lead to 3 deaths, they should win on it being public safety issue

 

[Dice//]

On Septermber 11th? Keepin' it classy, eh?

 

[Wet Bloodfart]

His event lead to 3 deaths, they should win on it being public safety issue

This is an infuriating poster.

 

[badboy78660]

I can't believe they agreed to a fucking nazi rally in the first place. Are they a public school?

They are. My sister attends classes there.

 

[Ashodin]

Hey before it was just happening to LGBTQ and POC, now it is serious

Us white people died so oh shit we better cancel now!

smh fam

 

[wild_fire987]

I can't believe they agreed to a fucking nazi rally in the first place. Are they a public school?

Yes they are, and I think there's some law saying they must provide their facilities to the public since the taxes (in part) pay for them. So they had to come up with a way to make sure people like this asshole don't speak there while still following the law.

 

[Machina]

Politicizing 9/11? 2003 called.....

 

[Raven117]

His event lead to 3 deaths, they should win on it being public safety issue

That's not the legal standard. Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 89 S. Ct. 1827, 23 L. Ed. 2d 430 (1969) (The Court held that a state could not "forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force ... except where such advocacy is directed to producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."). The Court really does mean imminent.


Don't get me wrong, Texas A&M has a decent enough case and wont get sanctioned for making that argument under Rule 11, but under current SCOTUS precedence, its probably not enough to justify limiting the speech. It has to be the words, the speech itself...not the response to it.

I can't believe they agreed to a fucking nazi rally in the first place. Are they a public school?

Yeah, they have to due to being publically funded. Spencer spoke there in December (before A&M could change a rule that says a student organization must invite the speaker...Not one of the 1200 student organizations did invite him), and there was a peaceful counter protest. Things have changed in the wake of this past weekends event.

 

[Captin Quacker]

there are fuckin pepe's on that poster

JFC

 

[Not]

Finally. Some spine.

 

[The Dink]

His event lead to 3 deaths, they should win on it being public safety issue

Wow. That is the Nazi-est poster that doesn't use images or symbols historically tied to the Nazi party I've ever seen in my life. Did they use an old propaganda poster as a template?

Also, wait 2 more people died in Charlottesville? When did this happen?!

 

[Hobbles]

That's not the legal standard. Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 89 S. Ct. 1827, 23 L. Ed. 2d 430 (1969) (The Court held that a state could not "forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force … except where such advocacy is directed to producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."). The Court really does mean imminent.


Don't get me wrong, Texas A&M has a decent enough case and wont get sanctioned for making that argument under Rule 11, but under current SCOTUS precedence, its probably not enough to justify limiting the speech. It has to be the words, the speech itself...not the response to it.


Yeah, they have to due to being publically funded. Spencer spoke there in December (before A&M could change a rule that says a student organization must invite the speaker...Not one of the 1200 student organizations did invite him), and there was a peaceful counter protest. Things have changed in the wake of this past weekends event.

Uh...there was a not so peaceful counter protest in the MSC (A&M's student union).

 

[Mr. Giggles]

They planned it for 9/11?

Guess they figured it was the best time to poke at brown people

 

[Skinny Pete]

Wow. That is the Nazi-est poster that doesn't use images or symbols historically tied to the Nazi party I've ever seen in my life. Did they use an old propaganda poster as a template?

Also, wait 2 more people died in Charlottesville? When did this happen?!

The police in the helicopter that crashed.

 

[captive]

glad its cancelled.

disappointed its cancelled as well, i was gonna go to this with my camera and take pictures of as many of them as possible.

 

[captive]

Wow. That is the Nazi-est poster that doesn't use images or symbols historically tied to the Nazi party I've ever seen in my life. Did they use an old propaganda poster as a template?

Also, wait 2 more people died in Charlottesville? When did this happen?!

a police helicopter crashed during the protests killing both police officers on board.

 

[The Dink]

The police in the helicopter that crashed.

a police helicopter crashed during the protests killing both police officers on board.

Shit, that's a shame. RIP to the lives lost needlessly here.

 

[zashga]

Good on A&M for not letting this go through again this year. Wish they'd had the spine to stop it last year, too.

The Battalion reports the organizer for the Texas event, Preston Wiginton, was inspired by the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Preston Wiginton may be the whitest name I've ever heard in my life.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Just label these people as terrorists and ban them from any public venue. People don't show up armed to the teeth and better equipped than the police and call it a battleground to express their freedom of speech. They want a fight and will do everything they can to instigate one, including killing someone.

 

[Ithil]

This asshat is getting kicked over and over this week. I like it.

 

[Ithil]

Good on A&M for not letting this go through again this year. Wish they'd had the spine to stop it last year, too.



Preston Wiginton may be the whitest name I've ever heard in my life.

He sounds like a made up name of someone who is pretending to be a British aristocrat. "Tis I, Archibald Featherbottom, and my friend, Preston Wiginton".

 

[Gutek]

I hope Richard Spencer gets punched daily. I wanna see that Waffle House Nazi Puncher take care of him.

 

[Beartruck]

Wow. That is the Nazi-est poster that doesn't use images or symbols historically tied to the Nazi party I've ever seen in my life. Did they use an old propaganda poster as a template?

Also, wait 2 more people died in Charlottesville? When did this happen?!

Helicopter crash tangentially related to event.

 

[Marvie_3]

Get fucked losers