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Texas man sentenced to 24 years in prison for distributing weed

itwasTuesday

He wasn't alone.
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Ivan 3414

Member
Why does the amount of weed he was selling matter to folks? If you believe that weed is harmless then he was selling a bunch of harmless material. Exactly what does it matter if it's a gram or a kilo? If you're against high sentences for your mans on the corner then you should be against high sentences for the kingpins as well.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
How many years into his sentencing will bribing federal officers to spy for you be legal?
It won't. But that's not the point. If weed were legal it's highly likely this guy or people like him would just go legit. Or they'll go to hard drugs and should rightfully be arrested for that.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Oh come on man don't be stupid. You can get in huge trouble for selling cigs over state lines so why expect anything different for years worth of offenses on an illegal item?


My point is that the thread title does a disservice for everyone who is actually worried about marijuana offenses being unreasonable. It does a disservice by trying to make a drug king pin sound like a wholesome family dude. Nothing innocent about making that kind of money over 15 years. The thread title makes people who like weed look like fools.

I'm against dodging local, state and federal taxes on legal items.
And I don't like weed.
 

rackham

Banned
It won't. But that's not the point. If weed were legal it's highly likely this guy or people like him would just go legit. Or they'll go to hard drugs and should rightfully be arrested for that.
Assuming does nothing when you commit the actual crime. Selling weed does not automatically relate to bribing federal workers. Saying if this wasn't like this then that wouldn't happen is bullshit. We don't know the guy and we don't know what anyone would do.


Even if weed was legal, that doesn't make ok for anyone to sell. Alcohol is legal but it's not ok for anyone to make it and sell it.


Oh, and if it's not the point then what is? People here keep trying to pass the narrative that this guy didnt do anything wrong but it makes everyone look ignorant who will try using this as an example of the harsher drug sentencing laws.
 

Meier

Member
Super liberal dude here but equating this drug kingpin to other regular dudes getting nailed via mandatory minimum charges feels a little disingenuous.
 
3,000 kilos...yea you're going away for a while, lol.

Despite pockets of legality that shit ain't legal everywhere. You move weight like that at your own risk.

This ain't a guy selling some blunts out his house or some shit,

it's weed

Yea 3000 kilos of it where it ain't legal. Dude knew the risks.

Does it matter how much he sold if it was nonviolent?

Yes. It's an indication of how large of an operation you're running. I'm all for the dude going legit in Colorado but that's not what he did. And when it's off the street you don't know wtf is in that shit.

I'm all for legalization but you don't get to move 3000 kilos because legalization is taking too long to get to Texas,lol
 

aeolist

Banned
3,000 kilos...yea you're going away for a while, lol.

Despite pockets of legality that shit ain't legal everywhere. You move weight like heat at your own risk.

This ain't a guy selling some blunts out his house or some shit,



Yea 3000 kilos of it where it ain't legal. Dude knew the risks.

he still shouldn't be put away for that. it's barbaric.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Jerry spent some time in Michigan Texas
A twenty year vacation, after all he had a dime 3,300 kilos
A dime 3,300 kilos is worth a lot more in Detroit El Paso
A dime 3,300 kilos in California, a twenty dollar fine that is totally fine
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Thought it was going to be a guy selling small amounts on a street corner.

3000 kilos, shipping across state lines and bribing an officer ...sentence is fine.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Assuming does nothing when you commit the actual crime. Selling weed does not automatically relate to bribing federal workers. Saying if this wasn't like this then that wouldn't happen is bullshit. We don't know the guy and we don't know what anyone would do.
Again, if weed were legal, would he have been caught bribing a federal worker? If we can't assume things, what are we doing here? This is a discussion forum is it not?

Even if weed was legal, that doesn't make ok for anyone to sell. Alcohol is legal but it's not ok for anyone to make it and sell it.
Did you miss the part where i said people like him would likely just go legit?

Oh, and if it's not the point then what is? People here keep trying to pass the narrative that this guy didnt do anything wrong but it makes everyone look ignorant who will try using this as an example of the harsher drug sentencing laws.
its still a pretty harsh sentence imo.
 

commedieu

Banned
The test will be watching what people with a joint get.

Bribing a dea agent isn't exactly just having a few plants...

24 years is excessive.
 

rackham

Banned
Again, if weed were legal, would he have been caught bribing a federal worker? If we can't assume things, what are we doing here? This is a discussion forum is it not?

Did you miss the part where i said people like him would likely just go legit?


its still a pretty harsh sentence imo.
youre using an argument based on assumption. If weed were legal maybe the guy would have been selling something else illegal. That's how assumptions work. They're stupid.
i see no moral difference between the feds busting a corner dealer for selling a few ounces and this guy, assuming he wasn't committing other crimes as well
He tried bribing federal officers to spy for him
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
youre using an argument based on assumption. If weed were legal maybe the guy would have been selling something else illegal. That's how assumptions work. They're stupid.

so then we're done here i guess. No assumptions allowed.
 

Cnoodles

Neo Member
I see no issue in this case. Dude is handling a huge operation across multiple states and even bribed officers to help deliver the goods. the topic does not really tell the whole story.
 
He's going away. For a long time. At the end of the day he made a choice knowing the consequences. Not sure what the outrage is about.

For all the injustice towards weed users getting busted this ain't the dude to use as a poster boy....
 

prag16

Banned
Bullshit thread title. Come on now.

Weed should be legal and sentences in general for things like this are out of hand.

However the title makes it sound like down on his luck Johnny on the corner was trying to make a buck and got tossed in the slammer for decades.

When in fact this guy was a Walter White tier kingpin for 15 years. In this specific case given all that he's done, the sentence seems within reason.
 
Bullshit thread title. Come on now.

Weed should be legal and sentences in general for things like this are out of hand.

However the title makes it sound like down on his luck Johnny on the corner was trying to make a buck and got tossed in the slammer for decades.

When in fact this guy was a Walter White tier kingpin for 15 years. In this specific case given all that he's done, the sentence seems within reason.

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BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
this guy probably made millions selling weed. at some point it doesn't even matter that it was weed when you're talking about such a large scale operation.

i see no moral difference between the feds busting a corner dealer for selling a few ounces and this guy, assuming he wasn't committing other crimes as well

then you're naive as hell. when you're bringing in this kind of money illegally, your hands are dirty as hell otherwise people will just rob you.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
No offense but no one gives a shit what you think about the law and federal workers? Are you 12?
again, are we not allowed to discuss shit here? Geez. If you dont care why did you quote him and respond?

He's going away. For a long time. At the end of the day he made a choice knowing the consequences. Not sure what the outrage is about.

For all the injustice towards weed users getting busted this ain't the dude to use as a poster boy....
to be fair, im not really seeing a whole lot of outrage. More like a bunch of people saying yea, he did the crime so he should do the time. While simultaneously recognizing that if weed were legal he likely would not be going to jail.
 
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