Forceatowulf
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Was hoping for Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind and Amalie. Because god damn are those movies overrated as the FUCK
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'The 10 Most Overrated Films of All Time'
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I didn't care much for Skyfall but I don't understand why someone has to explain why something 'looks pretty' to prove that it is indeed visually appealing to them. It may not use imagery to convey a greater meaning via good composition but it can still look prettier than most other films (which Skyfall does) and that can be an appealing quality in itself.
Also I can't say I agree with half the things listed but saying Om Shanti Om is a better alternative to Slumdog greatly reduces the value of the author's opinion for me.
Atraveller
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Criticizing a film with the word "overrated" is definitely bad, it's basically "my opinion > yous" in disguise, that's why people generally don't like this kind of stuff.
For example, this:
Even though I don't like the movie, but I would still say this a bad way to criticize a film. And the author of the article is hardly any better, he sure did use a lot of adjectives to shit on films he didn't like, some films' criticism aren't even criticism, and the whole article is giving off "people love them so I dare not speak ill of them at first"-rant vibe, look at the first half of Inception's, what the hell is that?
Romars202129
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A lot of twitchy kids with add that can't sit through a slow paced movie who regular a video game website? No, way, couldn't be that... the movie must just be worse than we think.
Bucket Mouse
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It would have served them better to name the article "Here Are Some Films We Think Are Overrated" rather than "The 10 Most Overrated Films of All Time". Such impetuosity on the presentation level discredits their authority on the matter and does a disservice to what I actually think is a thoughtful and well argued piece overall.
AHA-Lambda
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I definitely don't agree with The Departed, come on.
Personally I will echo the 2001 complaints and also add in Blade Runner.
Some people were calling it the best bond ever at the time.
But yeah, it'd be struggling to push above decent.
Personally I will echo the 2001 complaints and also add in Blade Runner.
Some people were calling it the best bond ever at the time.
But yeah, it'd be struggling to push above decent.
The only thing more boring than 2001 is the people who think they are better for thinking such a boring movie is amazing.
VeryGooster
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Skyfall, while I still enjoy it, was hampered by too many winks celebrating the film franchise's 50th anniversary, along with shuffling the more interesting operative exposure plot to make it personal and about M by the end. While I think "overrated" is a dumb, narcissistic concept, overrated "of all time?" I don't think so.
Didn't enjoy Inception as much as its overall reception, but still a pretty solid film. I honestly barely remember Summer 2010 in terms of films except this one and Iron Man 2 (meh). Same with Slumdog Millionaire -- beautifully shot, great soundtrack, didn't do much else for me, but I don't consider its overall reception invalid.
Didn't enjoy Inception as much as its overall reception, but still a pretty solid film. I honestly barely remember Summer 2010 in terms of films except this one and Iron Man 2 (meh). Same with Slumdog Millionaire -- beautifully shot, great soundtrack, didn't do much else for me, but I don't consider its overall reception invalid.
I don't think I'm better for thinking it's amazing. I just think it's amazing. And entertaining. And that it has an awesome plot.
I'd have to agree, both decent flicks, Amelie maybe more so, but very uneven.
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It's not, actually. There's a rift of differences between the character dynamic between the two lead undercover cops. I'd go as far as to say that not only do people who draw direct comparisons between The Departed and Infernal Affairs miss the point of the latter, Scorsese's film does as well.
It's the one film on that list in the op that I agree with its inclusion, completely.
I agree, it needs more explosions and chase scenes.
Well you didn't attack people who criticized the film for being 'twitchy kids' or insinuate that Michael Bay is perhaps more their speed. You think it's great, I don't think it's great, we can disagree without resorting to boring ad hominem attacks.
Translation:
"Have you ever seen 2001.... ON WEED?"
gutter_trash
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I find Braveheart to be an overrated overglorious patriot movie. Wallace is like a Jesus in the movie or some sort of messiah, historical movies should be weary of over mytholigificalaisting a main historical figure
Yes but the problem is that overrated can easily be used as an insult. Saying that the masses are stupid or sheep or pretentious for thinking something is good while a single person disagrees.
Charles Foster Kane
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I edited. I think many of those who use that term are talking out of their asses; it all depends on the reasons for which they feel that way (as I said in my original reply).
I have, and well...
equippedwithtowel
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Network is fucking great. Everything else I'm indifferent to being there but seriously?
PSYCHOHYZACK
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While I love 2001, I will agree that its pretty unyielding in its pace, but at least it's pretty upfront with you about it as literally the first five minutes is just a black screen with ominous music playing (this is even before the actual title card), so I feel its first scene puts me in the correct mindset about the pace of the movie but I could see it not working for everyone. As for HAL being the only interesting character in the third act, I always thought that was the point. Each segment has some entity evoling inot a higher form and in the third act thats HAL, so it made sence to be that he was more interesting and "human" than the actual humans.
It's worth it for the cinematography during the battle scenes alone. It's fantastic.
CharminUltra
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I see Blade Runner has been brought up already -_-
I give it zero explosions out of ten. Overrated!
I give it zero explosions out of ten. Overrated!
Tons of explosions in the opening few seconds of the film.
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Delta Assault
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The thing about 2001 is that you don't have to have ADHD to find it dull and boring. That's a very unfair insult that doesn't apply to the vast majority.
And it is completely possible to deliver an intelligent, contemplative, and immersive scifi movie while actually having good pacing. Just watch Contact, or the first two thirds of Sunshine. It doesn't have to be just the two extremes of either 2001 or... a Michael Bay movie.
And it is completely possible to deliver an intelligent, contemplative, and immersive scifi movie while actually having good pacing. Just watch Contact, or the first two thirds of Sunshine. It doesn't have to be just the two extremes of either 2001 or... a Michael Bay movie.
canoli2006
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Million Dollar Baby is such a good movie. It was so well received when it first came out, now all of a sudden it's overrated, and now because a list says so, everyone jumps on the bandwagon to sound cool and hip.
PSYCHOHYZACK
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The actual most overrated films: The Shawshank Redemption. Batman Begins. The Dark Knight. Every super hero film ever made. Shindler's List. Saving Private Ryan. Forrest Gump. The Green Mile. Tom Hanks. Aliens. Titanic. Good Will Hunting. Dead Poets Society. The Artist. Les Miserables. The Kings Speech.
Contact was a truly amazing experience. I've never watched a movie that did to me the things that Contact did, and I'm still not sure what it did. What struck me the most was that it was amazingly optimistic and compassionate, in a way that a lot of sci-fi fails to be.
I dunno, that "SO THE RELIGIOUS GUY IS CRAZY" thing was kinda dull, I thought. Felt forced into the script by the studio, and didn't seem to match the tone of the movie, especially because the journey to the sun feels like a religious experience itself.
Even as a cinephile, I greatly enjoyed The King's Speech. And also Aliens.
I do like Aliens. I think it has come to define the franchise though. Maybe it's the franchise that's overrated rather than an any individual film.
Romars202129
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I'm not sure I'm 'better' than you, but I'm nearly positive my film tastes are.
Delta Assault
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I really felt betrayed by that third act. Up til that point, I felt like the movie was doing everything right and could've been the best scifi movie ever made in the last... say, 10 or 15 years. The weight of responsibility and consequences of the mission... you could feel all of that conveyed through the actors and their interactions. It really did feel realistic and true to life, which is such a breath of fresh air with Hollywood movies. It's a real shame that the third act crashed and burned and didn't keep with the realistic tone.
Oh, and Moon's another great scifi movie with good pacing. It's not moving at a breakneck pace, but it keeps you invested and intrigued. There's a rich human element to latch onto and it's not just a dull lifeless experience like 2001.
PSYCHOHYZACK
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Its probably the most jarring tonal shift I've seen in a movie, but I guess I've watched it so many times that I've grown to accept it. It didn't strike me as a move by the studio( don't know if it was or not) just danny boyle wanking off to his own kinetic style.
CharminUltra
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Define pacing, please? I found all four acts thoroughly engaging and hypnotizing, from beginning to end. The tone of the movie was consistent throughout and it remained faithful to its theme to the very end.
I think that list is fair. Not that they're bad films, but the ones I've seen were just meh to me. Nothing especially memorable or anything I'd want to watch again. When I see the list of award nominations then I can agree that these could be considered overrated.
For some of the other movies mentioned in this thread, they might not be favorites but they are definitely memorable.
For some of the other movies mentioned in this thread, they might not be favorites but they are definitely memorable.
Romars202129
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But slow pacing isn't inherently bad. Breaking Bad for instance, I don't think I would have been half as connected to the characters without seeing all those slow moments.
Still, there are some people who can't accept it under any circumstances though. Maybe I can learn to accept their point of view, but these are still oppinions that need to be ignored, not pedestaled, at least from where I'm sitting.
Nappuccino
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Definitely so! Though that isn't the reason I find Shawshank and Forrest Gump to be extremely overrated lol.
What a weird thing to say, considering how frequently Moon and 2001 were compared for their similar pacing.
we'd be better off as a culture if every writer who sincerely spends time making "overrated/underrated" value judgments was rendered illiterate
it's perfectly fine to talk about how/why you diverge from popular opinion on a work. that can lead to interesting writing. but the second you make your main point "here are the areas where everyone else is wrong, and my unique little superior goddamn snowflake of taste preferences is right" you are irrevocably garbage
it's perfectly fine to talk about how/why you diverge from popular opinion on a work. that can lead to interesting writing. but the second you make your main point "here are the areas where everyone else is wrong, and my unique little superior goddamn snowflake of taste preferences is right" you are irrevocably garbage
I find this an agreeable list.
Casino Royale - an awesome reboot of James Bond's backstory. The board's been cleared and everything has been reset. We're through the exposition in the neatest way possible. This is gonna be a great run!
Quantum of Solace - OK, so... this is SPECTRE, right? We're setting up for that. What is Quantum? What was up with the mustache twirling Latin American dictator - that guy was straight out of Roger Moore era Bond. And still even more exposition? OK. NOW that this is over it's time for James Bond to be James Bond, right?
Skyfall - MORE exposition? More Bond and M Show? Wait, we JUST got through establishing Bond as a brand new Double 0 agent who's finally found his path and now the movie is all about how he's old and washed up? What the fuck? How does that even make any sense?
It's been a shitshow.
Casino Royale - an awesome reboot of James Bond's backstory. The board's been cleared and everything has been reset. We're through the exposition in the neatest way possible. This is gonna be a great run!
Quantum of Solace - OK, so... this is SPECTRE, right? We're setting up for that. What is Quantum? What was up with the mustache twirling Latin American dictator - that guy was straight out of Roger Moore era Bond. And still even more exposition? OK. NOW that this is over it's time for James Bond to be James Bond, right?
Skyfall - MORE exposition? More Bond and M Show? Wait, we JUST got through establishing Bond as a brand new Double 0 agent who's finally found his path and now the movie is all about how he's old and washed up? What the fuck? How does that even make any sense?
It's been a shitshow.
Delta Assault
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Yeah, but Breaking Bad has those human characters that you like and grow attached with and root for. They're relateable and human and have emotions. You recognize their verbal tics and flaws and gradually gain insight into who they are.
The humans in 2001 might as well be robots. Kubrick (intentionally) drains them of all emotion and humanity and personality. You watch them scrapping microwaved pudding off of their space tray and you wonder why you're spending your life watching this.
PSYCHOHYZACK
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Thats virtually every Kubrick movie post Strangelove
(The robot, lifeless part, not the this is boring part)
You don't really come to a Kubrick move for complex human emotion and warmth.
Delta Assault
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Fair enough. 2001 is the only Kubrick movie I've seen.
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