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The 24 Hours of Le Mans 2015 |OT| Nissan enter the fray

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dalin80

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The thing is there is only so much space available, there were only eight GT-Pro cars this year, i think that maybe there should be a two car maximum per team.

The non-hybrid lmp1's are a fairly pointless class so those spaces could be used better, nissan used up three spaces pointlessly.

Ditch the non-hybrid lmp1s, refuse entry to cars that haven't raced at a previous event or proved to set competitive pace in testing and with the extra grid slots there are enough spaces to augment the rest of the classes with good racing cars.
 

Juicy Bob

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Never seen so many pit lane speeding penalties in a motor race before.

I don't understand how that happens. I can't believe all these drivers aren't getting slowed down in time or forgetting to press the limiter on or even releasing the limiter too early. Its strange.
 

herod

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Never seen so many pit lane speeding penalties in a motor race before.

I don't understand how that happens. I can't believe all these drivers aren't getting slowed down in time or forgetting to press the limiter on or even releasing the limiter too early. Its strange.

there have probably been over 1000 pitstops by now

edit: I make it 1299 pitstops so far

last season in f1 there were 799 in total for the season, lol
 

dalin80

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Never seen so many pit lane speeding penalties in a motor race before.

I don't understand how that happens. I can't believe all these drivers aren't getting slowed down in time or forgetting to press the limiter on or even releasing the limiter too early. Its strange.

if the limit is say 60mph they will set the limiters to 59.9, one little engine hickup or surge and ping it's over. It's one of the areas many could play it a bit safer imho.
 

LoveCake

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How in the world did the Ferrari catch up to Pat Long after that spin?

Edit: 458 just pitted.

penalty for speeding in the pitlane could have cost them a podium!


The non-hybrid lmp1's are a fairly pointless class so those spaces could be used better, nissan used up three spaces pointlessly.

Ditch the non-hybrid lmp1s, refuse entry to cars that haven't raced at a previous event or proved to set competitive pace in testing and with the extra grid slots there are enough spaces to augment the rest of the classes with good racing cars.

No, the non-hybrid LMP1 cars are the privateers, if you stopped Audi, Porsche & Nissan/NISMO having three cars that would give three spaces up, two for another factory team maybe & another for a single car team or another car for a current one car team.

There were seven reserves were initially nominated by the ACO, limited to the LMP2 and LMGTE Am categories this year, they couldn't get in because there wasn't/isn't enough garage space for them, that's a poor excuse, it is the small teams that have kept LeMans & endurance racing going through the dark times.
 
Well, i'm taking a quick break from sitting in the lounge watching Eurosport's coverage which has been great and i'm glad the ad breaks have been quite short if frequent. Definitely thinking of buying the FIA WEC Live pass for the rest of the season but that might be the lack of sleep talking :)

Great Le Mans this year, really enjoying it and by the lack of replays i'm thinking that thankfully there were no major incidents while i dozed off between 4am and 7am?
 

NHale

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#7 with problems. Audi is having the technical issues that everyone thought would ruin Porsche race.

EDIT: Nothing major.
 
#7 is in the garage, WTF?!

Edit: Routine oil top-up. Treluyer is in until the end.

Edit 2: Back in. Engine cover not secured. Fucking amateur hour at Audi.
 

dalin80

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"Hamilton will be at variable fashionshows."

:lol

Honestly with his tyre and fuel consumption in F1 over the past few years, especially compared to his early reputation Hamilton would be an awesome endurance driver. With the new cheap lmp3 class cars he and a few of the other drivers could easily afford to set up a team and have a fun weekend of not having to cruise and save fuel.
 
Half an F1 season of racing time, blows my mind.

Yep, more power running for longer with lap times not that far away from F1.

Makes Honda and Renault look pathetic.

From an engineering perspective, LMP1 pisses all over F1.

Not to mention fuel consumption and sound.
 

herod

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Yep, more power running for longer with lap times not that far away from F1.

Makes Honda and Renault look pathetic.

From an engineering perspective, LMP1 pisses all over F1.

Not to mention fuel consumption and sound.

the lack of stupid regs makes it much more of an authentic motorsport
 

dalin80

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And with a lower budget, as far as I am aware?

I believe that the period they develop a new car are akin to a top third f1 team but then as that same fundamental chassis is used for the next several years the costs are considerably less during that period.

So the costs spike quite high but aren't as constantly immense.
 

LoveCake

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Rumor is Audi and Porsche spend 100 million each on their LMP1 programme.

But even if they spend more, there's a better ROI because it can be translated back to their road car R&D.

That is not per year from what i understand, i thought it was over a three year period, it was originally, that is what BMW did & Mercedes with the CLR's they wanted to come in with a planned time-scale & budget to match.

I cannot see Audi still spending 100 million a year, what are they spending it on?
 

NHale

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I wonder what is the interest from BMW or Mercedes to join WEC and compete with the other German manufacturers and Toyota. Ferrari will never do it because Bernie would stop giving them their legacy F1 money the minute after they announced an official WEC project.
 
That is not per year from what i understand, i thought it was over a three year period, it was originally, that is what BMW did & Mercedes with the CLR's they wanted to come in with a planned time-scale & budget to match.

I cannot see Audi still spending 100 million a year, what are they spending it on?

Between car R&D, buying components (brakes, tyres) and testing a state of the art car 100 million doesn't really seem like a ridiculous number.

From a R&D and marketing perspective it makes sense.

I guess it depends if you included all the marketing costs associated.
 
Earl Bamber is from my home town (population ~40,000).. this is a bit of a mindfuck seeing him leading le mans

Brendan Hartley is from down the road, Palmerston North

Proud kiwi here!
 
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