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[Suburban Cowboy]

interesting that a show with such strong conservative roots gave us the greatest president of all time (real or fake)... and he's a democrat!

 

[Stoney Mason]

It's amazing how everyone wanted Tony to come back, then when he did, people complained that they ran out of ideas.

Only the more desperate fan boys ever hoped for such a thing.

 

[PhoenixDark]

interesting that a show with such strong conservative roots gave us the greatest president of all time (real or fake)... and he's a democrat!

Exactly. S2 seems like a liberal's porn fetish: an honest, strong president willing to exhaust every avenue possible before entering war, even in the face of opposition from his own cabinet. It's like the opposite of what happened with Iraq! And that season also included a clever scene between the terrorist dude and the Amad (uhh the guy who was in charge of the mosque) where the guy argues terrorism is not apart of Islam

 

[Gwanatu T]

Wow. Does anyone remember that it's a TV show? They've got to make it interesting. Something controversial like torture in this scenario was perfect, and the crazy hard-ass Jack Bauer really showed what kind of person it takes to actually torture another human being.

interesting that a show with such strong conservative roots gave us the greatest president of all time (real or fake)... and he's a democrat!

That's because he wasn't a socialist.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Only the more desperate fan boys ever hoped for such a thing.

Nope, that's just not true. He's the most liked character after Jack and MANY people wanted him to come back.

 

[Patrick Klepek]

Sounds creatively bankrupt.

Sad, sad, sad. The end of season 6 provided a decent conclusion to the series.

 

[Triumph]

Nope, that's just not true. He's the most liked character after Jack and MANY people wanted him to come back.

I don't know about WANTED HIM TO COME BACK, but I certainly thought that he went out the wrong way. Having him come back as OMG ZOMBIE VILLAIN TONY is beyond stupid, tho.

 

[Suburban Cowboy]

Exactly. S2 seems like a liberal's porn fetish: an honest, strong president willing to exhaust every avenue possible before entering war, even in the face of opposition from his own cabinet. It's like the opposite of what happened with Iraq! And that season also included a clever scene between the terrorist dude and the Amad (uhh the guy who was in charge of the mosque) where the guy argues terrorism is not apart of Islam

Also, the Republican president stages attacks against the country and kills American citizens for "the good of the nation." Hard to take people seriously when they discard this show for having too strong of a conservative agenda

 

[Pimpwerx]

The problem is they killed all their best characters besides Jack. They spend all that time developing them, just to off them. It's worth some shock points, but that's about it. They also missed the perfect opportunity to get Jack our of LA when we thought Audrey was in China. Jack rampaging through China for 24 hours would have blown away the shlock we got last season. Instead, he spent the off-season in China, and then about a half an episode recovering from months of torture. The season jumped the shark with the nuke, but unlike Season2, they put it in the first few episodes. Last season was doomed to failure. PEACE.

 

[RSTEIN]

Kiefer Sutherland was in my building yesterday paying a visit to his mother, Shirley Douglas. She lives a couple floors down from me. I didn't see him tho, nor have I ever seen him.

 

[ZeoVGM]

The problem is they killed all their best characters besides Jack. They spend all that time developing them, just to off them. It's worth some shock points, but that's about it. They also missed the perfect opportunity to get Jack our of LA when we thought Audrey was in China. Jack rampaging through China for 24 hours would have blown away the shlock we got last season. Instead, he spent the off-season in China, and then about a half an episode recovering from months of torture. The season jumped the shark with the nuke, but unlike Season2, they put it in the first few episodes. Last season was doomed to failure. PEACE.

The nuke was the only awesome part about last season. They then ignored it as if it never happened when the fallout should have been huge. PEACE.

 

[Deadly]

I guess this pretty much means the planned 24 movie is pretty much in limbo now? :lol

 

[bill0527]

I also think Season 5 was one of the best seasons. There's a reason why it won so many Emmy awards. It was just that fucking good.

 

[Ripclawe]

This article was a hatchet job where they wanted to blame everyone but the writers who came up with a crappy S6.

Even this bit.

In the winter of 2007 the sixth season of the show premiered to more than 16 million viewers. The season began with Jack emerging from 18 months of captivity and unremitting torture in a Chinese prison.

As President Bush's approval ratings began to sink so did ratings for season six, which ran from January to May 2007, dropping steadily month by month. Fox notes that viewers were increasingly choosing to watch the show on digital recording devices. But some fans also felt the show was retreading old ground, and that the characters had become flat. Undoubtedly "24" was showing its age, as all TV shows do, but the producers believed the public mood was quickening the decline.

I can look at the chart and say the show viewers went up as Bush's approval ratings went down 2005 and 2006 season. Pathetic article that gave too much leeway to the creators and writers who put out a bad season.

 

[Troidal]

Without a new season (and possibly a shitty one it was going to be with zombie Tony), I almost forgot this show even existed.

I can live without 24 now. It has passed its prime.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

1 bad season out of 6 and now the show sucks and is past its prime?

Are people forgetting 24 Season 1,2 and 5 were some of the best TV ever?

 

[ZeoVGM]

Without a new season (and possibly a shitty one it was going to be with zombie Tony), I almost forgot this show even existed.

:lol I love you people.

 

[AgentOtaku]

The problem is they killed all their best characters besides Jack. They spend all that time developing them, just to off them. It's worth some shock points, but that's about it. They also missed the perfect opportunity to get Jack our of LA when we thought Audrey was in China. Jack rampaging through China for 24 hours would have blown away the shlock we got last season. Instead, he spent the off-season in China, and then about a half an episode recovering from months of torture. The season jumped the shark with the nuke, but unlike Season2, they put it in the first few episodes. Last season was doomed to failure. PEACE.

alotta good points in there =/

but yeah...no way 24 is past it's prime!

 

[Troidal]

I did not ask Tony to come back, and whoever even suggested that I thought was really going to be very reaching to make a sensible explanation. But, they ended up doing what fans asked for -_-

I personally disliked season 4 and obviously 6, season 5 was just a notch up but in retrospect, I personally feel the first 3 seasons were the best. So for me, it passed its prime way back, not just recently.

 

[Diablos]

I wish they never did Season 6. You can't undo it, now. What a mess that was.

2 and 5 were the best.

I don't think it will ever be as popular as it once was, even if they fix all the problems. Ah well. It had a good run. Like eXxy said, the end of S6 was a strong conclusion to the series, but S6 overall was so bad that it still needs a proper ending after a GOOD SEASON.

Also, I'm a liberal and I can't understand how there can be some soldiers out there who actually used 24 as an excuse to approve of torture. WTF is wrong with people? It's a SHOW.

I will say it's a bit unsettling how many mainstream Republicans are in love with the show because of some of its undertones.

 

[AgentOtaku]

I'm guess i'm one of the few who thought S6 was great (even if the formula was getting very tired at that point).....up until they shoehorned in Audrey and the last 2 discs
(>___<)

 

[Spotless Mind]

If Chloe dies on the next season I'm watching it. How can they kill all the other good characters and keep her.

Complete opposite for me. If she dies i'll probably stop watching. She is the heart of the show for me (moreso than Jack) and has been my favourite character since her hilarious introduction in season 3.

Seriously awful article. Season 6 was a mess (with some redeeming moments for me) and attributing the shows overall ratings decline, which is not the slightest bit true, to Bush's approval ratings is completely ridiculous and insulting. 24 has always had non-partisan stance and grew a strong base of viewers because it is a quality action serial. Nothing more. Season 6 quite simply turned off viewers, because of its bad writing.

 

[AgentOtaku]

yeah, I look at it now....that article is pretty fucking stoopid :lol

 

[Shalashaska]

1 bad season out of 6 and now the show sucks and is past its prime?

Are people forgetting 24 Season 1,2 and 5 were some of the best TV ever?

The first time watching Season 1 was awesome and completely got me hooked into 24. However, after having seen all the seasons a few times, season 1 is pretty horrible. It's basically Kim and Teri getting captured/escaping/captured/escaping about 10 times each.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

The first time watching Season 1 was awesome and completely got me hooked into 24. However, after having seen all the seasons a few times, season 1 is pretty horrible. It's basically Kim and Teri getting captured/escaping/captured/escaping about 10 times each.

Except it's really like 2-3 times each huh.
Plus Tony saving them, Jack at the Compound and at the Docks were still god-like regardless what # escape that was..

 

[Shalashaska]

Except it's really like 2-3 times each huh.

Easily more than that.

 

[TheGreatDave]

I think I'm personally completely done with the show at this point. The cliffhangers of "shit's going to get blown up" just don't do it for me any more. Compared to a show like Lost it lacks the excitement or intrigue.`

 

[Blader]

Except it's really like 2-3 times each huh.
Plus Tony saving them, Jack at the Compound and at the Docks were still god-like regardless what # escape that was..

I thought season 1 was the worst of them all, but Jack at the docks is still one of the greatest scenes in the show's history.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

I think I'm personally completely done with the show at this point. The cliffhangers of "shit's going to get blown up" just don't do it for me any more. Compared to a show like Lost it lacks the excitement or intrigue.`

I too wished that 24 raised 100 questions per season that it will never answer.

 

[Escape Goat]

Complete opposite for me. If she dies i'll probably stop watching. She is the heart of the show for me (moreso than Jack) and has been my favourite character since her hilarious introduction in season 3.

Seriously awful article. Season 6 was a mess (with some redeeming moments for me) and attributing the shows overall ratings decline, which is not the slightest bit true, to Bush's approval ratings is completely ridiculous and insulting. 24 has always had non-partisan stance and grew a strong base of viewers because it is a quality action serial. Nothing more. Season 6 quite simply turned off viewers, because of its bad writing.

hasnt chloe been there since season 1?

 

[Shalashaska]

hasnt chloe been there since season 1?

Season 3 I believe.

 

[Blader]

I too wished that 24 raised 100 questions per season that it will never answer.

Only someone who doesn't watch Lost could say that.

 

[Penguin]

I think I'm personally completely done with the show at this point. The cliffhangers of "shit's going to get blown up" just don't do it for me any more. Compared to a show like Lost it lacks the excitement or intrigue.`

You know its the complete opposite for me.
Lost doesn't pull me in because I don't feel there are any cliffhangers from episode to episode to make me want to watch it. And so far non of the overall stories is keeping me occuppied.

 

[TheGreatDave]

I too wished that 24 raised 100 questions per season that it will never answer.

I'd rather have one hundred questions asked and never answered than the same one question asked repeatedly that I already know the answer to. How long can I keep watching a show where all I'm being offered is the chance that a city is blown up or Jack dies?

 

[Shalashaska]

I'd rather have one hundred questions asked and never answered than the same one question asked repeatedly that I already know the answer to. How long can I keep watching a show where all I'm being offered is the chance that a city is blown up or Jack dies?

Depends if you like having a conclusion or not.

 

[Future PhaZe]

2=1>3=5>>>>>>4>>>>fucking terrible>>>6

The formula worked nicely between seasons 1 and 2 and those plotlines wouldn't age within 2 seasons. Season 3 was a nice change from the norm and was quite refreshing, season 4 was fucking horrible. Season 5 was back to the old style, but they really went to the limit and it was quite good. Season 6 was fucking trash. Absolute trash and I never finished watching it.

The show is running its course. Coming up on its 7th season, things are going to have to get dramatically different for it to be good.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Depends if you like having a conclusion or not.

But the conclusion is pretty inevitable. That's my problem with it. It's 23 episodes of Jack not dying but nearly dying, the terrorists not being able to do their final attack and the government fucking around not knowing what to do. I know it goes deeper and they have some arcs with conclusions of sorts but I never ask myself what's going to happen next any more. The shows format limits it from ever being too exciting to me any more.

 

[Edag Plata]

They should have just made season 6 the most amazing thing ever and wrapped everything up then ended the show instead of it fading out into being hated by people and made fun of like it is now.

I mean, I'm the biggest 24 fan you'll ever meet, but season 6 was insulting and boring. That really should have just been the end. Two trilogies of sort, and then just end it.

 

[DrForester]

So did they ever say if it was Zombie Tony, Cyborg Tony, or Evil Twin Tony for season 7?

 

[Penguin]

So did they ever say if it was Zombie Tony, Cyborg Tony, or Evil Twin Tony for season 7?

It was plain old tony.
They were gonna say he faked his death.
And there isn't too much evidence to the contrary if they want to prove it.

 

[Docpan]

I say that the best idea would be for the government to pull some shady shit, then Jack should be like "WTF, that's wrong, I'm not going to let this happen." Then the guy in charge should be all "Jack, stand down. STAND DOWN, JACK. Be reasonable. For your sake." Then Jack will walk out on them all to stop the twisted government plot.

Gov't VS Jack Bauer = a fucking unbelievable plot. They'll hire a new top agent or whatever and they'll go head to head in some empty parking garage or something.

That shit would be amazing. Explosions, tnt, ticking time bombs, asassins, snipers, car bombs, tnt, etc.

Hell fucking yes. HELL FUCKING YES.

 

[TheGreatDave]

I just want less government. I know by it's nature it's kinda hard not to have the president involved in a national terrorist attack, but I'm sick of the good and evil people within the White House.

 

[Spotless Mind]

hasnt chloe been there since season 1?

Season 3 episode 1 to be exact.

I think I'm personally completely done with the show at this point. The cliffhangers of "shit's going to get blown up" just don't do it for me any more. Compared to a show like Lost it lacks the excitement or intrigue.`

Aside from being completely different types of shows, i totally disagree with you. I have never felt any excitement or danger for characters in Lost because i don't for one second believe the writers have the guts to kill off major (non shitty) characters. Lost's hamfisted way of creating intrigue just doesn't have any appeal to me. It's a total miss mash of genres and it fails at being good at any of them. 24 succeeds, save for season 6, at exactly what it sets out to do.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Aside from being completely different types of shows, i totally disagree with you. I have never felt any excitement or danger for characters in Lost because i don't for one second believe the writers have the guts to kill off major (non shitty) characters. Lost's hamfisted way of creating intrigue just doesn't have any appeal to me. It's a total miss mash of genres and it fails at being good at any of them. 24 succeeds, save for season 6, at exactly what it sets out to do.

I'm not directly comparing them, what I mean is that when I watch Lost I ask questions, and actually look forward to an episode, where-as with 24 it's settled in to a predictable groove. I'm not saying which is the "better" show, especially not if you take each one in it's prime. I really don't know how season 5 of Lost is going to start, For the last 6 years all seasons of Lost have been pretty much identical in concept.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

Season 3 episode 1 to be exact.


Aside from being completely different types of shows, i totally disagree with you. I have never felt any excitement or danger for characters in Lost because i don't for one second believe the writers have the guts to kill off major (non shitty) characters. Lost's hamfisted way of creating intrigue just doesn't have any appeal to me. It's a total miss mash of genres and it fails at being good at any of them. 24 succeeds, save for season 6, at exactly what it sets out to do.

Pretty much. At least the 24 writers had guts to kill off a lot of characters (particularly Season 5 - almost too much in fact). Lost writers kill off shittily written characters nobody cared about in the first place.

Spoiler

Niki and Paulo? Gimme a fucking break

I could care less about even the better written characters on Lost now.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Pretty much. At least the 24 writers had guts to kill off a lot of characters (particularly Season 5 - almost too much in fact). Lost writers kill off shittily written characters nobody cared about in the first place.

Spoiler

Niki and Paulo? Gimme a fucking break

I could care less about even the better written characters on Lost now.

Yeah, they never killed off

Spoiler

Charlie, Boone, or Shannon

.

They shouldn't just fucking kill people off because they have "guts". Horrible writing.

And wow, I think you missed the point of Nikki and Paulo.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

Yeah, they never killed off

Spoiler

Charlie, Boone, or Shannon

.

They shouldn't just fucking kill people off because they have "guts". Horrible writing.

And wow, I think you missed the point of Nikki and Paulo.

Wow 3 even more annoying poorly-written characters. Congrats.

 

[Spotless Mind]

Yeah, they never killed off

Spoiler

Charlie, Boone, or Shannon

.

All those 3 were terribly written and i laughed my ass off when they died. I agree killing characters for "guts" isn't necessarily a good thing, but making the audience believe that all your favourites are in imminent danger to create tension in what is primarily an action thriller is a good thing.

 

[XMonkey]

I wish the show would go small again (like season 1) No nukes or anything crazy like that. It forces the writers to take on too grand a scale.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Wow 3 even more annoying poorly-written characters. Congrats.

The fuck?

Please,

Spoiler

Charlie

is awesome and a fan favorite character. I know people that cried their fucking eyes out when he died and I teared up a little too.

Though according to you, you don't care about the well written characters now, so why do you even watch?

And to the other guy, no, you didn't laugh your ass off when they died. Stop.