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The 89th Academy Awards |OT| La La Land up 3-1, they got this

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Klocker

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I'm sure I'll get heat, but Moonligjt shouldn't have won. Great acting and cinematography shouldn't hide a hacked on last act.
It won best adapted screenplay as well and was a play before that. So the story is obviously seen as fine art. I watched it today before the Oscars for first time and was moved by it. I did want more at the end but rewatched it tonight again and it works.
 
Am I losing it?
When Moonlight was revealed to be the real winner, the crowd made that EXACT Stock "Crowd gasp" noise that Hollywood has used in countless movies. Seriously, listen super closely after "I'm afraid they read the wrong thing".
Time is a flat circle, everybody. Arrival was right all along.
 

Ecotic

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After Beatty searches the envelope for another card and then stalls for more time, I love how he looks right offstage hoping a producer is on his way to save his ass. After no one comes he has one more idea to show Dunaway thinking she'll understand and they'll have a 'two brains are better than one' moment and think of something, but then she does the exact opposite. Poor Warren Beatty, he really did exhaust every option to get it right.
 

UberTag

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Oh, nice! Great acceptance speech.

I have to say, Kubo's bombing really reinforced my elitist views toward general audiences. To at least the same degree as when Furious 7 made way more money than Mad Max: Fury Road.

Ugh, people.
To be fair, Kubo's marketing didn't do the film any favors. This is the kind of film that needs to get the kiddies excited to see it. Most kids skipped it in theaters and fell in love with it on home release... and it released during the summer when the animated competition was Sausage Party of all things so there's no excuse for it to have done as poorly as it did.

Incidentally, the primary reason why Kubo won at BAFTA was due to the Disney vote split. Had Finding Dory made the Oscar nom cut, I suspect the same thing would have happened here. You have the GKIDS lobby which backed My Life as a Zucchini / Ma vie de Courgette to thank for Kubo losing to Zootopia.

(Not that Zucchini is a poor film by any stretch of the imagination; I'd have rather had it get nominated over the extended short that is The Red Turtle.)
 

Ashhong

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Damn I never watched it from the very beginning. Didn't realize they were up there for 3 minutes, crying, giving speeches, going through emotions etc. Just terrible for the crew of La La Land
 
Cross posting from the other thread:

and the winner is...The Bomb!
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Oh, and just gotta say, the new thread title is amazing. :)
 

GlamFM

Banned
Finally caught up with everything.

No idea what some of you are talking about.

Thought the situation was handelnd extremely well by all parties involved.
 

JS3DX

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Eh, I thought first two acts were powerful and real. Last was "let's give everyone closure." Which felt fake as Hell in this case.

I'm with this guy: Moonlight's third act threw everything out the window with forced tension, bad casting choices and lack of an ending. It didn't deserve the Best Picture award by a good mile.
 

Monocle

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To be fair, Kubo's marketing didn't do the film any favors. This is the kind of film that needs to get the kiddies excited to see it. Most kids skipped it in theaters and fell in love with it on home release... and it released during the summer when the animated competition was Sausage Party of all things so there's no excuse for it to have done as poorly as it did.

Incidentally, the primary reason why Kubo won at BAFTA was due to the Disney vote split. Had Finding Dory made the Oscar nom cut, I suspect the same thing would have happened here. You have the GKIDS lobby which backed My Life as a Zucchini / Ma vie de Courgette to thank for Kubo losing to Zootopia.

(Not that Zucchini is a poor film by any stretch of the imagination; I'd have rather had it get nominated over the extended short that is The Red Turtle.)
Yeah, I suppose that makes sense. Kubo's marketing was fairly weak, although I can say for myself that the trailers grabbed me right away. But then, it definitely didn't sell itself as well as the likes of Zootopia and Moana.

I didn't know about GKIDS' role in the award outcome. I keep having to remind myself that the Academy Awards are by the industry and for the industry—not a ceremony for impartial judges to dole out awards exclusively for artistic merit.
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
La La Land got screwed so hard, I half expect Vince McMahon to say on Raw that Jenkins didn't screw Chazelle, Chazelle screwed Chazelle.
 

PillarEN

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Jumping into the thread way late.

So did the announcer have the wrong paper? Cause Emma Stone isn't in Moonlight, so how did he see her name?

Edit: Wrong card. Makes sense.
 

Piggus

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What the hell. I watched La La Land "win" best picture, turned off the TV, gloated about it on Gaf, and I come back later to see this Steve Harvey sequel shit.

Congrats to the dude who bet 300 on Moonlight though. That must have been crazy for him to watch that play out lol.
 

Alpende

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I'm glad Casey Affleck won, I haven't seen Manchester By The Sea yet but I've always liked Casey for some reason. Also cool to see Arrival snag an Oscar even though it's not the most prestigious one. The Moonlight mix up was pretty funny to see, the guy announcing it wasn't at fault but damn, that confusion was something else.
 

duckroll

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Yeah there's always something likeable about a guy dogged by sexual harrassment complaints. Don't even need to watch his performances to know he deserves a win.
 

PillarEN

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The guy who bet 300 bucks got banned? Odd timing but I'm guessing he won't care much with a couple of extra Benjamins to keep him company in the near future.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
Yeah, this is Polanski/Gibson/whoever all over again. Should we separate an artist from their art or not? It's really subjective.

Polanski doesn't belong in the same breath as Casey or Mel. Shame on everybody who applauded and stood up for that scumbag.
 

Out 1

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Yeah, this is Polanski/Gibson/whoever all over again. Should we separate an artist from their art or not? It's really subjective.

Woody Allen creeps me out more than the above mentioned, despite the fact that he didn't do anything criminally wrong. I still like him as an artist.

In Casey Affleck's case there were no new allegations/victims after it resurfaced during this Oscars season. Knowing that the original lawsuit was settled to everyone's satisfaction, I don't see much of a story here. And the timing of it all is kind of bs. Of course everyone is free to draw their own conclusions about the guy.
 

xrnzaaas

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So it this a new way to get people to talk about your awards show? First Harvey "accidentally" messed up the winner in the Miss Universe awards and now this?
 
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