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The Amazing Spider-Man 3 and Sinister Six details surface

Link.

Did you have ideas for the third one?

Yeah, we were talking about the Sinister Six. They were going to make a Sinister Six movie before we did the third one. But I wanted...Chris Cooper was going to come back and play the Goblin. We were going to freeze his head, and then he was going to be brought back to life. And then there was that character called The Gentleman. We had some notions about how to do it, but I think maybe we were thinking too far ahead when we started building in those things. But it was a fun exercise. I look back very fondly on those days.

Aside from Chris' head, did you have a villain you might have wanted to bring in?

Well, that was going to be the main villain. He was going to come out and lead the Sinister Six. We had talked about Vulture a little bit too, actually....
 

LionPride

Banned
When the pics of his frozen head came out like damn near as soon as TASM 2 came out, I was fuckin howling with how dumb that shit was
 
Yeah I wasn't feeling the Sony pictures hate but they hire completely incompetent people damn.

No wonder they just agreed to let Marvel write it.
 

Blade30

Unconfirmed Member
Chris Cooper was going to come back and play the Goblin. We were going to freeze his head, and then he was going to be brought back to life.

They were planning on bringing back Gwen's dad too.

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What drugs were they on?
 

Anung

Un Rama
It's then revealed through flashback that Norman's frozen head banged Gwen Stacy and she had two kids before she died.

I almost wish the film got made just to see what a colossal train wreck it'd be.
 
How is Sony Pictures surviving

I would guess a very large reason Kaz Hirai hasn't axed them yet like he has a lot of their unprofitable divisions is because they own the Spider-Man license. Aside from that they make a bit of money from their Animation division, but the rest of their output is pretty much total dogshit.
 

kiguel182

Member
What a train wreck.

I mean, the second movie also had Mary Jane cut out of it and a scene where Peter’s dad was alive. That movie was a mess.
 
Webb's been good for nothing since 500 Days of Summer. made two awful spiderman movies then some mediocre genius kid movie with Chris Evans, and now apparently his new movie is spme wack take on The Graduate.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
And then there was that character called The Gentleman.

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But yeah I am not surprised that it would have been a mess, been saying that for years after watching Spider-Man 3 and when Sony announced they were rebooting Spider-Man.

How is Sony Pictures surviving

No idea, to this day I still await the day for them to go under.

What is it with movie franchises these days about not giving a fuck about bringing back dead characters.

It's a comic book movie, they bring people back from the dead.

Yeah I wasn't feeling the Sony pictures hate but they hire completely incompetent people damn.

No Sony Pictures is run by incompetent people, the suits were not interested in making a good Spider-Man movie they were interested in shoving as much product placement as possible while doing a terrible job of creating a Spider-Man cinematic universe, even Kaz Hari stuck his oar in during the production of "Amazing" Spider-Man 2.

Sony just did not get Spider-Man from day one and they got lucky with Spider-Man 1 and 2 because Sam Raimi was a Spider-Man fan and actually understood the source material but then Sony started meddling in with Spider-Man 3 and during the production of Spider-Man 4 which pissed him off causing him and the cast to walk out. Not that Sony cared as they had plans to reboot the series after Spider-Man 4, lord knows why, and just brought the plans forwards.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Comic books bring people back from the dead all the time. Comic book movies don't. They're different mediums. It's acceptable in long form stories like comics and TV, but the threshold for that kinda bullshit is incredibly low in movies. You could get away with a death fakeout within the same movie like Gordon in The Dark Knight or Fury in The Winter Soldier. But straight up killing characters and then bringing them back in the next film would be lame.
 

TheDanger

Banned
wait a fucking minute here is another sony spiderman movie coming?? so do sony and marvel have the rights now? I'm confused
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
Comic books bring people back from the dead all the time. Comic book movies don't. They're different mediums. It's acceptable in long form stories like comics and TV, but the threshold for that kinda bullshit is incredibly low in movies. You could get away with a death fakeout within the same movie like Gordon in The Dark Knight or Fury in The Winter Soldier. But straight up killing characters and then bringing them back in the next film would be lame.

What? In the very first Superman movie he went back in time to bring Lois back from the dead.

Also I don't think that the audience are going to care if they bring characters back from the dead in comic book movies just as long it's done well and add something to the movie.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
wait a fucking minute here is another sony spiderman movie coming?? so do sony and marvel have the rights now? I'm confused

It's not another Spider-Man movie, it's what would have happened had "Amazing Spider-Man not under preformed and Sony continued with their plans.

The only Spider-Man movie that are in the works;

-Spider-Man Homecoming 2

-A stand alone animated Spider-Man movie starring Miles Morale, not connected to the MCU or Homecoming.

Sony is also working on a Venom movie that is connected to Homecoming universe but I wager that they will backtrack on that when it bombs due to it being a stinker.
 

Blader

Member
Chris Cooper's frozen head, lol

Why even kill off Osborn in the first place if the plan was to have him as the villain in the very next movie?
 

Litan

Member
What? In the very first Superman movie he went back in time to bring Lois back from the dead.

Also I don't think that the audience are going to care if they bring characters back from the dead in comic book movies just as long it's done well and add something to the movie.
That's your response to his post?
"That Superman movie from long ago brought someone back from the dead!"

He's absolutely right. There are things done in the comics that wouldnt be as acceptable in comic movies.

He didn't say audiences wouldn't like anyone ever being brought back to life. Just that the threshold for it is lower for moviegoers than comic readers.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
What? In the very first Superman movie he went back in time to bring Lois back from the dead.

Also I don't think that the audience are going to care if they bring characters back from the dead in comic book movies just as long it's done well and add something to the movie.

Yeah...within the same movie. It's a focal point and emotional moment in THAT film. She didn't die, the film ends, and then he saves her in the next one. And I think they would care quite a bit. As soon as you bring characters back like that, death loses meaning. That's why nobody cares when major comic book characters die now. "Hulk is dead? Oh...so he'll be gone for a few months." That starts cropping up in comic films and the emotional weight of key moments will just fall flat.
 
Sony is also working on a Venom movie that is connected to Homecoming universe but I wager that they will backtrack on that when it bombs due to it being a stinker.

I thought the Venom movie was it's own thing?
In June 2017, Marvel producer Kevin Feige confirmed that the movie would not be set in the MCU, however Amy Pascal contradicted this by saying it would. It was later announced that same month that Venom is it's own Universe.

Via IMDb trivia.
 

Blade30

Unconfirmed Member
Sony is also working on a Venom movie that is connected to Homecoming universe but I wager that they will backtrack on that when it bombs due to it being a stinker.

It's not. Did you miss the Kevin Feige "sad Affleck" moment and that Amy Pascal changed her statement to that it is its own thing?

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brawly

Member
How about, instead, laying out a plan ahead of time? Then you don't have scramble and bring back characters in laughable ways.

Edit: so there was some planning to that madness? Jesus
 

Fury451

Banned
LMAO. Going full Futurama.

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Glad this shit got stopped, ASM2 was trash. I imagine some of these terrible ideas will resurface for their new slate of non-MCU Spiderman fare.
 

Dadasch

Member
I would guess a very large reason Kaz Hirai hasn't axed them yet like he has a lot of their unprofitable divisions is because they own the Spider-Man license. Aside from that they make a bit of money from their Animation division, but the rest of their output is pretty much total dogshit.

He could just downsize the division quite a bit in order to get rid of these incompetent douchebags at the helm of this huge division.

Is it that hard? I don't get it.

I mean...literally EVERYONE sees how incompetent and useless they're.
 
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