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They spent the whole episode bitching about how it was a reboot and sharing their theories on what shaped this film. It was a ridiculous and lazy episode.
They probably wouldn't have been bitching if it wasn't such a fucking terrible reboot that leaves you cynical as fuck after watching it.

Don't mind Bob, he's practically the only one shitting on Webb so hard. :lol
I'm not the only one, I don't see how you could look at all the problems that plague this movie and think he did a good job.
 
After the Lizard, going with another lame villain like the Vulture would be a huge mistake. The Raimi trilogy used pretty much all of the series' best villains. At this point, retreading ground is unavoidable. Considering that Norman Osborn was mentioned several times in the film, and given that Oscorp was such a huge focus of the movie, the Green Goblin would make the most sense.

I would prefer if they focused on Norman in ASM 2. Build him up, introduce Harry and show how shitty their relationship is, then maybe have the end credits hint at Normans transformation for ASM3.


I wonder how closely Beenox worked with the movie producers when they did the ASM game. They claimed that there was a strict set of characters that they were given permission to use so I wonder if its safe to assume that whoever Beenox was allowed to use were not part of Sonys plans for the sequels. If thats the case, then *ASM game spoilers*
Rhino, Scorpion, Smythe, and Black Cat are all out.

Then again, Rhino and Scorpion dont even speak and are just products left over from the Oscorp experiements. I dont even think they are named in the game...only on the trophies. Black Cat also has a very small role that can easily be ignored. Smythe is a major player though. I doubt they can use him in a movie without retconning the entire game.

This also depends on if anyone at Sony is even considering the videogame plot as canon.

If I had one hope for the sequel, its that the villain have some sort of flying device like Vulture or GG. Should make for some really fun aerial fights and awesome swinging moments.
 
Nah, the action scenes were all pretty closed off and dull. The romance scenes were great ignoring the shallow beginning to the relationship, but that's not enough to earn Webb another shot.
Even the romance scenes fell completely flat---the scene where Peter reveals his Spiderman to Gwen and kisses her? So fucking terrible.
 
A lot of potential there since they've never even played with that character before, at all. They could go the Ult. route a bit with him being tempted by this older woman who's attracted to him and thinks he's married or something. This got me good back in the day;

Yeah, like I said some pages back I really want to see Black Cat in a movie too. She's always been a favourite of mine since I was kid for some reason. I rather they play her like the original 616 character where she's a legit love interest, albeit only interested in his masked side.

That would probably be too hard to do within the confines of (probably) a single movie though...I'd just be happy if she shows up in some capacity.

Unless they make her in to the Vultress (lol)
 
Nah, the action scenes were all pretty closed off and dull. The romance scenes were great ignoring the shallow beginning to the relationship, but that's not enough to earn Webb another shot.

The action scenes were amazing. It's great to have a director that understands and utilizes all of Spidey's moves. For ASM2, I hope the battles are more grandiose and lots of daytime swinging. The 3D could be used better for the swinging scenes as well.
 
I'm honest here: With the intro and all, and those guys clearly knowing nothing about Spiderman, like, at all, this video somehow made me think about why I am even listening to completely random strangers to hear what they think of some movie I'm looking forward to see.

They have no "better" or more educated opinion than I would have, and this video somehow made this point perfectly clear. I don't even know why exactly, since I usually watch a lot of, let's say Jeremy Jahns' videos on YT.

Maybe I felt like those dudes started to take themselves way too serious with this, and the cringeworthy, unfunny and downright insulting "story" around those HitB videos doesn't really help, compared to that, Linkara is a mastermind director and top-notch actor.

Yeah, I liked you guys when you sticked to Star Wars in depth reports, 'cause you know what you were talking about and backed it up with evidence and examples. Nowadays, not so much.

You don't have to know the lore of Spider-Man to critique this movie, especially when some of their complaints are with the general tone of the movie.
 
You don't have to know the lore of Spider-Man to critique this movie, especially when some of their complaints are with the general tone of the movie.

As someone who was excited for the review, I mostly just thought it was really boring. It wasn't particularly funny or interesting, and they didn't say anything new. Hopefully Plinkett makes a full review, since there's plenty of things in the movie he could pick at.
 
saw it yesterday. IMHO it was better than SM1, mostly because sm1 only saw characterdevelopment in Peter and Norman Osborne. the rest of the people were just there. ASM had everyone evolving.

I'm not saying iit's without flaws, far from it, but at least it gets several things right. Peter waking up with his new powers for example. the chemistry between Stacy and Parker. the whole responsibility angle.

sure, the fact that a 17 yr old chick is anything other than cleaning lady at oscorp deserved a raised eyebrow.
peters parents added little to the story, but hints were given that more will be revealed later on.
the fucking lizard... apart from a flawed character development in Conners, bouncing vbetween morality and self gain witout any reason, the fight with Parker lacked impact. the two had zero emotional connection, which made the fights in the animated series so much better.
 
The action scenes were amazing. It's great to have a director that understands and utilizes all of Spidey's moves. For ASM2, I hope the battles are more grandiose and lots of daytime swinging. The 3D could be used better for the swinging scenes as well.
I didn't think he really used that many moves though. He did a lot of punching and shooting web into peoples faces, but it always felt confined. The fights never felt like they could move anywhere at any time. I guess what I mean is that I wanted bigger fights with swinging around and creative moves, and I didn't get it.
 
Am I allowed to feel like my intelligence is insulted for liking this film so much? I don't know if I liked it MORE than SP1, but I sure as hell liked it as much or almost as much to a negligeable level. Am I dumb?

I just want ASM2 to top this one and I'll be happy. I don't think it could be THAT hard to do, but the talk of the writers on the new script scares me a little bit.
 
I have to be honest, seeing something like that talking would be pretty ridiculous.

That's the thing. He shouldn't have been talking at all. He should have been in a state so monstrous that his mind is 98% desynchronized from being a man.

On a consciousness scale it would be: Venom to Hulk to Lizard
 
Am I allowed to feel like my intelligence is insulted for liking this film so much? I don't know if I liked it MORE than SP1, but I sure as hell liked it as much or almost as much to a negligeable level. Am I dumb?

I just want ASM2 to top this one and I'll be happy. I don't think it could be THAT hard to do, but the talk of the writers on the new script scares me a little bit.

A lot of people liked this film.

Dont mistake the growing realization of people declaring "this is how this film was secretly a dissapointment" for "unanimous hate".
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Vic Armstrong (second unit director) was in charge of most/all of the action. Looking at his IMDb page, he's been a stunt co-ordinator (and/or second unit director) on everything from Starship Troopers to Thor: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002184/

Vic Armstrong has been stunt doubles for everybody, from Indiana Jones, James Bond, Superman, etc. He's the one who makes that awesome jump from the horse onto the moving tank in the Last Crusade

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Vic Armstrong has been stunt doubles for everybody, from Indiana Jones, James Bond, Superman, etc. He's the one who makes that awesome jump from the horse onto the moving tank in the Last Crusade

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Badass.
 
Norman Osborn I'd Imagine.
Norman Osborne can't phase in and out of solid objects though. I'd like to think its Mysterio, and they're setting up for Sinister Six by the third movie. Doing a supervillian team up would be a good next step after Avengers. But I doubt they'd be able to pull it off...
 
How about Kraven and Chameleon for Amazing Spider-Man 2? Opening the movie with a epic battle between Kraven and introduce Chameleon later on. Chameleon is related to Kraven. Chameleon is hired by Norman Osborn.

If Chameleon is in the sequel, there's a great opportunity for a Mission Impossible 2-esque cold open where you see Spider-Man acting like a criminal. The 'reveal' can be when Chameleon (dressed as Spider-Man) runs into Peter Parker. They could even have Chameleon dressed in the Spider-Man costume from the Raimi trilogy.
 
Norman Osborne can't phase in and out of solid objects though. I'd like to think its Mysterio, and they're setting up for Sinister Six by the third movie. Doing a supervillian team up would be a good next step after Avengers. But I doubt they'd be able to pull it off...

Ok I didn't pay enough attention then. I tough he was just standing in the shadows and I don't even remember if he left the scene :D.
 
I saw it yesterday. Such a terrible movie. I could easily write a wall of text on everything bad about the movie. So instead I'll mention the good parts and quickly summarize the bad.

- Mostly I like the way he became spiderman better than the first.
- I like how Uncle Ben died compared to the old ones.
- The skateboarding/spidey powers montage was nice
- The fight scenes with the hooligans and the cops were interesting albeit too short and didn't have enough impact.
- The swinging was amazing but the movie has too little of it especially during the day.


Everything else was terrible.
- The fight scenes were both good and bad as spidey didn't do a lot of web stuff other than shooting it in peoples face.
- Slow motion is best used to make fast paced action have a bigger effect by slowing down complicated/busy maneuvers so the viewer can absorb them. They just randomly used slow motion when Spidey was going super slow already. It was incredibly annoying and I love slow mo!
- The villain
- ALL the high-school scenes
- The dialogue
- The chemistry
- The script (15 years huh? What's the rush then?)
- The cinematography, the pacing
- The ending
- The extra scene
- The MAIN EVENT fights (with the lizard) were so bad it was laughable. \
- I never really felt worried for spider-mans safety, and I was never excited while he fought the lizard. Also, that crane scene was laughable.

Oh and treating the viewer like a bunch of morons is never fun.

3/10.

:(
 
I thought the action scenes were real good on first glance. Lot of space, a whole lot of focus on Spidey's agility. A couple too many times where Lizard should have crushed him or Spidey's body would've taken an unreapairable amount of damage, but that's a superhero movie for ya. But the action was quite sly I thought, a particular moment at the end where Lizard is about to hit him with something while Spidey's was on the ground, and he quickly webs out of the way through Lizard's legs. Thought it was neat because it wasn't played up or focused on, just a natural part of Spiderman using his abilities.

And then the part where he webbed up lizard, crawling all over him, was a real stunner and probably Webb's best directed action moment.

Admittedly, it all felt a little more cartoony than the rest of the film, but it was just about the live action Spidey's fighting I've wanted.
 
You guys are still wondering who it was? lol

I worked in production and I honestly thought it'd be figured out straight away. If you do not wish to know the identity of our mystery man please do not highlight the following spoiler.

The Riddler
 
You guys are still wondering who it was? lol

I worked in production and I honestly thought it'd be figured out straight away. If you do not wish to know the identity of our mystery man please do not highlight the following spoiler.

The Riddler
Need to double spoiler tag that shit, I thought it was
Eddie Murphy
, but I never REALLY wanted to know for sure!!
 
Saw it last night with the wife. We both loved it from start to finish. I have to disagree with the folks who are saying the tone, plot, characters were bad/terrible. I thought all those elements were fantastic. Might see it again. The only thing I did not like was overall look of the villain, and the 3D (not much depth in most scenes).
 
Just realized they didn't even explain what the fuck that stupid red light that flashes when he shoots web is for.
It was weird how,for all of the making his own web shooters stuff, they were only ever unusable once? And really in that instance, his god damned wrists should have been crushed to dust.
 
i can only imagine the cameo is setting up a mysterio/green gobby combo for the next one. Playing on the hallucination aspect could lead to some awesome dramatics/ fight scenes
 
Just realized they didn't even explain what the fuck that stupid red light that flashes when he shoots web is for.

Forget the lights. How did he come up with the webbing? The film shows him ordering the stuff online, but then later on he claims it's his own invention. Which is it?
 
Forget the lights. How did he come up with the webbing? The film shows him ordering the stuff online, but then later on he claims it's his own invention. Which is it?

I think Spider-man said that to the car thief just to scare him, or because he was feeling full of himself.

Also the webbing itself was an Oscorp invention, but he designed the web shooters in his room.
 
I think Spider-man said that to the car thief just to scare him, or because he was feeling full of himself.

Also the webbing itself was an Oscorp invention, but he designed the web shooters in his room.

You're interpretation is probably right. Claiming another person's work as your own is a dick move. Fits in with the rest of his character.
 
You guys are still wondering who it was? lol

I worked in production and I honestly thought it'd be figured out straight away. If you do not wish to know the identity of our mystery man please do not highlight the following spoiler.

The Riddler
I went to see the film with a guy that knows next to nothing about Spider-Man and he actually turned to me afterwards and said 'is that Penguin?' I thought he was joking and laughed but he just looked at me with a poker face...
 
Hmmm, thinking of sequel villains again, how about Scorpion? I really think they need to do a new villain, because if they just go with Green Goblin again they're going to run head first into those "re-tread" complaints again, which they should be avoiding now that the origin is out of the way.

Kingpin? or is he more of a Daredevil villain?

or what about Electro?
 
Kingpin? or is he more of a Daredevil villain?

or what about Electro?

Kingpin would be the best possible choice if retreading Raimi villains isn't an option. We've seen a good bit of New York's criminal underworld in ASM, and the search for Ben's killer is still unresolved. A mob boss would be a logical next step as far as villains go.
 
Kingpin would be the best possible choice if retreading Raimi villains isn't an option. We've seen a good bit of New York's criminal underworld in ASM, and the search for Ben's killer is still unresolved. A mob boss would be a logical next step as far as villains go.

I mentioned him a few pages back too and someone else questioned whether or not he was doable because of Fox owning the Daredevil rights and Kingpin being a major character in that.
 
Kingpin would be the best possible choice if retreading Raimi villains isn't an option. We've seen a good bit of New York's criminal underworld in ASM, and the search for Ben's killer is still unresolved. A mob boss would be a logical next step as far as villains go.
If they can weave legitimate villains into that, I have no problem. Otherwise, it would be a rather lame villain for Spidey. Someone needs to compliment his abilities, like Vulture for arial combat, etc.

@fna, Electro is extremely one dimensional btw, more so than almost any of the other main villains but he'd work as a puppet for someone else (as he often is in the comics, actually).
 
Kingpin has evolved into more of a DD villain thanks to the great, influential Frank Miller run, but he started as a Spidey bad guy, and recently he's gone back to being a general NYC badguy for Spider-Man to face. He could be good, maybe in unison with somebody else.
 
Saw it again a second time yesterday and loved it just as much. Aside from 21 Jump Street, its my surprise of the year. I just love the movie and I'm really excited for the sequel.
 
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