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Scarecrow said:
Yes (During the credits, not at the end, for those that are going to see it)
*spoilers*
They show Connors in a prison cell. Out of the shadows comes a man (presumably Norman Osborn) asking Connors if he told Peter what really happened to his parents. Connors says no. He then pleads with Osborn to not hurt the boy. Osborn leaves, cut to rest of the credits.
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I don't think it was Osborn. I think it's Connor's lizard identity (ie. a figment of his imagination)
 
So I'll put my impressions of the movie as a separate post:

- The movie can't be compared to the Avengers because they're two totally different movies aiming for different audiences and plot points

- Some of the scenes from the trailers aren't in the movie. Not sure whether that's due to the cutting floor or last minute changes.

- Negatives:
Aunt May has very little screen time, which is understandable since this is a origin story. The movie also felt rushed at times. Could use an extra 10 minutes or more.

- Positives:
Everything, from the dialogue to the action. Even the "piano" worked well :lol

- There's only one post credit scene.
It's Curt Connors in a cell talking to someone. It's not clearly shown who he is, but I think it's the Lizard persona. Some people think it's Norman Osborne, which I disagree since the cell is empty
 
I've seen the movie twice now and it is still resonating very well with me. In fact, I'm very much looking forward to seeing it a third time (probably in 2D next time).

I personally don't believe the criticism about it including another origin story is valid. That's just my opinion and I can certainly see why people aren't too hot on watching Spider-Man's origin yet again, but I don't think you can knock the movie for that provided that the scenes are filmed and acted well, which they are. This version of Spider-Man is so different in tone when compared to the Raimi movies that to me it would have felt extremely odd if they had not included another origin story. Not to mention that the opening scenes in ASM let us know what our new Peter Parker is like. It gives us time to get used to him and to understand that, while he's still awkward and inarticulate, he's not quite the nerd that Tobey Maguire portrayed him to be. I think that would have been extremely difficult to convey if they just had Peter swinging around as Spider-Man from the get-go. But again, I can understand why some people wouldn't want to sit through all of that again. I just happen to believe it's a better movie because of that.

As far as scale and scope, I think Raimi's movies take the prize on this one. The story in ASM felt small compared to what was at stake in the original movies. Like someone here said, there was no symbolic "throwing down the gauntlet" moment like when Peter dropped his glasses after Doc Ock kidnapped MJ in Spider-Man 2. I thought the ending in ASM was actually really good, but the build-up to it could have been better.

The Raimi movies are also much, much more whimsical and comic book-y compared to ASM. Whether that's good or bad is up to you, but I think it's great that they feel different in this regard. I loved the overall tone of the Raimi movies. They are very fun to watch, they are lighthearted, and they never get too serious, whereas ASM takes a sort of "Batman Begins" route and is grounded in a slightly more realistic and dramatic NYC setting.

It's been said in this thread already, but where ASM really shines is in the characters of Peter Parker and in Spidey himself. Nobody can deny that Spidey behaves, moves, swings, and fights is much more like how we would imagine him to. He's quippy, he's kind of a jerk, he uses his cell phone while he's in costume, and when he fights he actually kind of moves like a spider. It was great watching Spider-Man do his thing in the old movies, but it's so much better now. This will be one aspect of the movie very few people will attempt to dispute.

I thought Tobey did a pretty great job as Parker but I never bought him as Spider-Man. There was always a disconnect in the old movies in that regard. He was just too nerdy and lame to pull off a believable Spider-Man. But Tobey's Peter is basically a 60s version of the comic book character transplanted into modern times. Nobody acts like that these days. It added to the comic book-ness of the old films, but I much prefer Andrew Garfield's portrayal. He's still unpopular and awkward and inarticulate, but as one reviewer on RT mentioned, he's not at the very bottom of the school's food chain. This Peter is more in line with Peter Parker from Ultimate Spider-Man and I think it translates well in this movie. He still has an immaturity about him, which is something that sculli knocked, but I just chalk that up to him still being a high school student. He's constantly learning throughout the entire movie about what it means and what it takes to be a hero. To me, the origin story doesn't stop when he actually becomes Spider-Man halfway through the movie, the origin story continues all the up until he has a talk with another character near the end. He's still a high school student at the end of the movie, so he has no reason yet to worry about apartments in the city, paying rent, making ends meet, etc. I'm sure that will come later.

One thing I found lacking in ASM was that there are too few characters from the comics. I think the lack of these supporting characters are part of the reason why ASM feels more like an action drama movie starring Spider-Man than an actual comic book movie. That was one of the best things about the Raimi movies. I hope that when Peter eventually goes off to college they will introduce more of the characters we all know and love. I completely agree with what sculli said about Sheen as Uncle Ben and Field as Aunt May. Aunt May is pretty much throw-away in this movie, which is really a shame. Sheen was awesome.

Anyways, as a huge Spidey fan I really enjoyed this movie. I still can't say where it ranks among all the other Spider-Man films, but it is without a doubt miles ahead of part 3.
 
This was fucking amazing. More thoughts later.

The Andrew Garfield line that directly references his character in The Social Network was fucking perfect.
 
Was very enjoyable. Maybe this is just post movie seeing hype but I think I like this movie more than the raimi films. Fight choreography and the quippage was great, made me want to rewatch spectacular spider-man.
 
SRG01 said:
- There's only one post credit scene.
It's Curt Connors in a cell talking to someone. It's not clearly shown who he is, but I think it's the Lizard persona. Some people think it's Norman Osborne, which I disagree since the cell is empty
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Agreed. The voice heard felt pretty much the same to me as the one heard when Connors is thinking / discussing with his Lizard persona in the sewers. There's also how the scene was edited, with the character just dissapearing, walking towards a wall of the cell, not the door.
 
enzo_gt said:
Same here.

Though I don't like Stone so I don't think I'm gonna enjoy it very much overall.
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I am big Spidey fan and I was skeptical about the whole endeavor by Sony after SM3 and the terrible rumors regarding Raimi's SM4. From the impressions here, I am glad we are getting what seems to be a great Peter Parker/ Spidey in Garfield. Stone would have been perfect for MJ based on the what I have seen of her work in movies and SNL. Playing the party girl would have been easy for her. If we get an MJ in the future, I hope she is written better than Dunst's version.
 
GrimReaper said:
Agreed. The voice heard felt pretty much the same to me as the one heard when Connors is thinking / discussing with his Lizard persona in the sewers. There's also how the scene was edited, with the character just dissapearing, walking towards a wall of the cell, not the door.
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Really? Then what of the hat he was holding? Not that that necessarily signals Osborn, but I think it signals something other than the inner Lizard. Plus, that whispering (both in the cell and earlier in the sewers) just rung the Willem Dafoe/Goblin bell for me. And I don't think they're gonna leave Goblin on the table when you have Gwen Stacy as a main character either. That's just me.

Totally unrelated to the above, but still spoilered:
The sequence when the Lizard comes to Midtown high was definitely my favourite part of the movie. Think it's this movie at its best.
 
Great movie, really enjoyed it overall

I think this person will be the next villian

SPOILERS YO

I feel in the next 2 movies it has to be norman osborn, he got the lizard formula which I think they're going to fuck around with and because it's based on the same formula it will turn him green and mess him up physically so, no green suit. at the end whoever is in his cell is clearly unstable with his hands, I forget if they ever state what osborn has but it could be what causes the man's twitches.

also looking at photos of michael massee who played "the man in the shadows" he's a slightly older man (55?) which would fit osborn I think
 
EazyWeazy3 said:
Does anyone know how the 3D is in this movie??

Worth seeing in 3D or save a few bucks and catch it regular?
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Tolerable at worst, and pretty decent and sweet at best. This is coming from a genuine 3D hater.

It might be that I saw it on an IMAX screen, but it was bright and luminous compared to most dark, awful 3D screenings. Film never seemed too dark.

TOTALLY worth seeing in IMAX for 20-30 mins or so that use the larger screen size. Really gives those scenes an immense and provocative tone and visual presence. I don't think it was shot in IMAX but it definitely expanded the screen for select scenes, like Dark Knight and Transformers 2.
 
I just got back also. Really enjoyed it. It has it's share of weak scenes, but overall I think it's a solid film. Loved Andrew Garfield as Peter and Emma Stone as Gwen.

Kind of makes me want a "Peter & Gwen" tv show starring them. If I was a billionaire I would fund it with my own money for my own amusement.

Also I got a poster

edit: I agree that the 3D isn't worth it.
 
kitschykitty said:
Great movie, really enjoyed it overall

I think this person will be the next villian

SPOILERS YO

I feel in the next 2 movies it has to be norman osborn, he got the lizard formula which I think they're going to fuck around with and because it's based on the same formula it will turn him green and mess him up physically so, no green suit. at the end whoever is in his cell is clearly unstable with his hands, I forget if they ever state what osborn has but it could be what causes the man's twitches.

also looking at photos of michael massee who played "the man in the shadows" he's a slightly older man (55?) which would fit osborn I think
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Since, I've already had the post credits scene spoiled for me, I might as well comment about the possibility of
GG
. I hadn't actually given a thought using that villain for the next two movies actually. Hollywood's brainwashed me into thinking there needs to be a new villain for each movie. I would love to see something to this degree happen. It could actually work in the movies favor by getting us invested with TASM 2 and paying off with TASM 3. Then from then on if they continue on with TASM 4 they could move on to a new villain. Or even introduce lesser villains to help
GG
realize his plans in the two sequels.
 
matt360 said:
I've seen the movie twice now and it is still resonating very well with me. In fact, I'm very much looking forward to seeing it a third time (probably in 2D next time).

I personally don't believe the criticism about it including another origin story is valid. That's just my opinion and I can certainly see why people aren't too hot on watching Spider-Man's origin yet again, but I don't think you can knock the movie for that provided that the scenes are filmed and acted well, which they are. This version of Spider-Man is so different in tone when compared to the Raimi movies that to me it would have felt extremely odd if they had not included another origin story. Not to mention that the opening scenes in ASM let us know what our new Peter Parker is like. It gives us time to get used to him and to understand that, while he's still awkward and inarticulate, he's not quite the nerd that Tobey Maguire portrayed him to be. I think that would have been extremely difficult to convey if they just had Peter swinging around as Spider-Man from the get-go. But again, I can understand why some people wouldn't want to sit through all of that again. I just happen to believe it's a better movie because of that.

As far as scale and scope, I think Raimi's movies take the prize on this one. The story in ASM felt small compared to what was at stake in the original movies. Like someone here said, there was no symbolic "throwing down the gauntlet" moment like when Peter dropped his glasses after Doc Ock kidnapped MJ in Spider-Man 2. I thought the ending in ASM was actually really good, but the build-up to it could have been better.

The Raimi movies are also much, much more whimsical and comic book-y compared to ASM. Whether that's good or bad is up to you, but I think it's great that they feel different in this regard. I loved the overall tone of the Raimi movies. They are very fun to watch, they are lighthearted, and they never get too serious, whereas ASM takes a sort of "Batman Begins" route and is grounded in a slightly more realistic and dramatic NYC setting.

It's been said in this thread already, but where ASM really shines is in the characters of Peter Parker and in Spidey himself. Nobody can deny that Spidey behaves, moves, swings, and fights is much more like how we would imagine him to. He's quippy, he's kind of a jerk, he uses his cell phone while he's in costume, and when he fights he actually kind of moves like a spider. It was great watching Spider-Man do his thing in the old movies, but it's so much better now. This will be one aspect of the movie very few people will attempt to dispute.

I thought Tobey did a pretty great job as Parker but I never bought him as Spider-Man. There was always a disconnect in the old movies in that regard. He was just too nerdy and lame to pull off a believable Spider-Man. But Tobey's Peter is basically a 60s version of the comic book character transplanted into modern times. Nobody acts like that these days. It added to the comic book-ness of the old films, but I much prefer Andrew Garfield's portrayal. He's still unpopular and awkward and inarticulate, but as one reviewer on RT mentioned, he's not at the very bottom of the school's food chain. This Peter is more in line with Peter Parker from Ultimate Spider-Man and I think it translates well in this movie. He still has an immaturity about him, which is something that sculli knocked, but I just chalk that up to him still being a high school student. He's constantly learning throughout the entire movie about what it means and what it takes to be a hero. To me, the origin story doesn't stop when he actually becomes Spider-Man halfway through the movie, the origin story continues all the up until he has a talk with another character near the end. He's still a high school student at the end of the movie, so he has no reason yet to worry about apartments in the city, paying rent, making ends meet, etc. I'm sure that will come later.

One thing I found lacking in ASM was that there are too few characters from the comics. I think the lack of these supporting characters are part of the reason why ASM feels more like an action drama movie starring Spider-Man than an actual comic book movie. That was one of the best things about the Raimi movies. I hope that when Peter eventually goes off to college they will introduce more of the characters we all know and love. I completely agree with what sculli said about Sheen as Uncle Ben and Field as Aunt May. Aunt May is pretty much throw-away in this movie, which is really a shame. Sheen was awesome.

Anyways, as a huge Spidey fan I really enjoyed this movie. I still can't say where it ranks among all the other Spider-Man films, but it is without a doubt miles ahead of part 3.
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*applause*
Now I really want to see the movie.
 
Surprised at the 3D reactions. Considering this movie had freakin POV shots and Webb always talked about making it "a ride" I thought 3D was the only way to go.
 
So the 3D is subtle, right? That's the issue?

It's ironic, because a subtle 3D is probably 3D done right... but that ironically makes it less likely to be something you want to pay extra for :P
 
The movie was so bad lol.

Spoilers ahoy:
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The Jurassic Park scene with Gwen and The Lizard was so lol. I was waiting for Lizard to open a door or something
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The basketball dunk scene was LOL
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Bing parts were LOL as well
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The crane part lol man

Actually, it gave me laughs. 6/10 maybe
 
SalsaShark said:
Surprised at the 3D reactions. Considering this movie had freakin POV shots and Webb always talked about making it "a ride" I thought 3D was the only way to go.
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It's shot in a way that makes 3D work well, but it's in no way a selling point of the movie. I mean, it's like Avengers being 3D.
 
Strong midnight show in my location, probably a hair under 2 thousand people. That's like, nowhere near a twilight let me tell you. Everyone seemed excited, Imax and DBox were totally sold out. I didn't stick around till the end of the film to see people's reactions, this was supposed to be my day off but I was scheduled to help with the midnights lol.
 
jokkir said:
The movie was so bad lol.

Spoilers ahoy:
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The Jurassic Park scene with Gwen and The Lizard was so lol. I was waiting for Lizard to open a door or something
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The basketball dunk scene was LOL
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Bing parts were LOL as well
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The crane part lol man

Actually, it gave me laughs. 6/10 maybe
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lolol yes.

Just got back from seeing the IMAX showing... while enjoyable I still think I liked the original more.
 
JohnIIVII said:
it looked like he had a staff in his hand and he disappeared from the cell. thats why i got a mysterio vibe.
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I'd love if Mysterio or someone was the villain for the next film and GG was left until the third one, only because if it's GG you know Gwen is going to die, and I don't want her to die yet. That said, I'm betting the next movie will have GG and Gwen's death, while also introducing MJ. That seems to most 'logical' to me, but I'd be happy if it didn't turn out that way.
 
This movie had some terrible writing.

Uncle ben getting himself shot, to the scene where the lizard had to hold peter from falling.

Well at least Marvel has the avengers.
 
SRG01 said:
- Negatives:
Aunt May has very little screen time, which is understandable since this is a origin story. The movie also felt rushed at times. Could use an extra 10 minutes or more.
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Like I said, compress the first half to remove filler. Honestly I thought the was a bit too long.
 
Movie was good but not Amazing. The pre-Spider-Man section of the film was incredibly well done but also went on too long...it felt like it was over half though I am not sure how much time it actually took. The parts where he was actually Spider-Man were overall mediocre with a few highlights (the high school). I really liked Garfield in the role though. Lots of super cheesy parts too which detracted more than added. Stuff like the cranes lining up for him, the numerous 3D gimmick shots, and The Lizard's 90's era GREEN lair.
 
Some things that I thought about, that could be foreshadowing the story:

The dialog between Parker and Conners about how much of your own DNA changes was obviously pointed towards Conners, but could also work towards Peter - especially with the dropped in 'aren't you afraid of your powers?' from Stacey

Osbourne has Parkinson? It has to be a slow illness, if he's had it for 15 years and is slowly getting life threatening. Also something Conners talks about and would still leave more room for a potential 'cure' that goes wrong than some other illness where he's paralyzed or something.

So possible storyline and enemy for spidey 2 (wishful thinking ;) ):

The "Neogenic Nightmare" from TAS with Kraven the Hunter as the main enemy and Osbourne buildup in the second, Goblin in the third?
 
Great movie! Spider-man actually moves with a weight and strength that the character posses, something I thought the Raimi movies lacked. The first encounter with the lizard was sweet. The police force wasn't depicted as fools or weak sauce, even in the face of super-powered beings. I love the tone of the city and the whole movie in general. Can't wait to see it again, and again.
 
Decent movie. Spiderman 1 was a better origin story. This was not nearly as compelling; just focused on cool action and Spiderman's much more "cool" character this time around.
 
Just got back from midnight, I loved it and felt it was better than any of the original Spiderman films.
 
All I want is a lead into venom that actually makes sense and works.

Not having Venom play a big role in the films we have got thus far always seemed so odd to me. Since it's basically the equivalent of ignoring the joker in the batman films.

Really hoping Amazing Spiderman sequels can resolve that.
It already sounds like they are leaning that way, which is a good thing.
 
I really liked it. Wasn't a huge fan of the villain, but I throughly enjoyed the parts that didn't involve him. I also enjoyed the bits where they made spiderman, well, very spider-y.
For example, laying lines (a web) down, and responding to their vibration to sense his "prey".

Also, I was a big fan of the wise-cracking character they returned him to be. Even though it was, at times, a bit much. Surely the next movie will do better.

All in all, I really liked it. Was it my favorite movie of all time? Nah. But I would as it stands, call it my favorite spiderman movie. I am going to give the previous versions a re-watch however, and re-evaluate that opinion. If you have any interest in going to see it, go. It's worth the money, and you'll have a good time.
 
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