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Big name celebrities cast for roles for the sole reason they are big name celebrities.
Ben & May were perfectly cast in SM1 as an old, likeable & relatable couple. In ASM when I see them, I think "hey it's Martin Sheen & Sally Fields!"

Well, from the perspective of someone who didn't recognise either of them, I thought they were brilliant. They were obviously older than Peter's parents, but not elderly, and I liked that. The only thing that bothered me was why they pretended not to know about the photograph, though that was less an actor problem and more a scripting problem.
 
No one will know. Look how long Superman went without getting his identity revealed and he didn't wear a mask.

Let's be honest though, that's fucking sad. But he hides his identity some other way... but really, people should at the very least guess he's relatives with Clark.

Which reminds me - I forget what movie I was watching where Clark got knocked down and a cop helped him up saying "hey, did you know you look like Superman with your glasses off?"

It would be incredibly hard to direct good emoting and acting from someone whose entire face is covered the majority of the time. It's still a movie in the end.

It would be incredibly hard to take a masked superhero, supposedly concerned for the safety of those he loves, seriously if he keeps removing his mask in a supposedly realistic world.

At least when she dies, we'll know why.
 
I don't get why Spider-man constantly has the conflict of being unmasked.

Is this a problem other superheros have to deal with every five minutes, or just him?
 
I don't get why Spider-man constantly has the conflict of being unmasked.

Is this a problem other superheros have to deal with every five minutes, or just him?

Only the heroes that have a secret identity. Logan doesn't give two shits if you know he's the goddamn Wolverine.
 
I don't get why Spider-man constantly has the conflict of being unmasked.

Is this a problem other superheros have to deal with every five minutes, or just him?

Batman has it too, of course. It is a very realistic issue and a frequent them of super hero comics.

On topic, I saw it last week and I liked it very, very much. Much closer to the source than Raimi's films, though some of the liberties felt weak to me.

And as I thought, it was a much more interesting film than the Avengers.
 
Garfield just wants to flaunt his cute face, that's all.
 
I was just talking to one of our guys who went to see an uncut version of this over lunch, he says that the cuts make sense to him now. The uncut version is too confused according to him, and the whole parents "untold story" doesn't really fit and feels very forced, he said that some of the scenes may be used in the sequel, possibly as flashbacks, but he was pleased that they cut the story for this one.

He also passed on their recommendations to the studio over a sequel and they were very receptive to arguments about dropping Orci and Kurtzman. Finally, SPE think that they are on track for $800m WW at least, with a good shot of $900m but they want to wait and see how big the effect of TDKR will be on BO takings.
 
I was just talking to one of our guys who went to see an uncut version of this over lunch, he says that the cuts make sense to him now. The uncut version is too confused according to him, and the whole parents "untold story" doesn't really fit and feels very forced, he said that some of the scenes may be used in the sequel, possibly as flashbacks, but he was pleased that they cut the story for this one.

*shrug* I thought the film played out fine as it was, so I'd probably agree. I felt the parents thing was more of a tease or something, not necessarily the focus of the movie but something to steer Parker's actions.

Having some of this stuff in the next one would be nice though if they can find a way to harmonize it with the story.

He also passed on their recommendations to the studio over a sequel and they were very receptive to arguments about dropping Orci and Kurtzman.

Receptive maybe, but they won't do a damn thing and you know it. :(

Orci and Kurtzman are box office gold screenwriters. That doesn't make them good, but they can pen stuff that looks awesome in trailers.
 
I was just talking to one of our guys who went to see an uncut version of this over lunch, he says that the cuts make sense to him now. The uncut version is too confused according to him, and the whole parents "untold story" doesn't really fit and feels very forced, he said that some of the scenes may be used in the sequel, possibly as flashbacks, but he was pleased that they cut the story for this one.

Yeah, I had heard too that the parents stuff didn't test well in screenings.

He also passed on their recommendations to the studio over a sequel and they were very receptive to arguments about dropping Orci and Kurtzman.

Who is your friend that he has that kind of clout?! :lol
 
Who is your friend that he has that kind of clout?! :lol

Head of a major movie finance unit, while the bank hasn't funded an SPE movie for a while because of their very deep pockets, we feel that it is about to change and they will come knocking for TASM2 as finance isn't lined up yet and Sony are short on cash because of investment activity elsewhere in the group.
 
Head of a major movie finance unit, while the bank hasn't funded an SPE movie for a while because of their very deep pockets, we feel that it is about to change and they will come knocking for TASM2 as finance isn't lined up yet and Sony are short on cash because of investment activity elsewhere in the group.

Interesting. I've never heard of a studio screening a 'rejected' cut of a film before. Why did they do this?
 
Interesting. I've never heard of a studio screening a 'rejected' cut of a film before. Why did they do this?

It was a private thing, he wanted to see it and he was the only one watching with a few of his friends at SPE. No one else will have been there. It happens quite often, but it very rarely gets reported.
 
This was probably the first movie since the Second Coming of Marvel where I hadn't given the movie any thought after I saw it.

Other than discussing ASM on GAF, same for me.



Well, from the perspective of someone who didn't recognise either of them, I thought they were brilliant.

Brilliant? I'd go with "serviceable" for their roles. Leary was the only big name actor who was given a chance to shine, and he did pretty good. I don't think Leary's suited for the good guy, Mr. Police Captain role, however. Sheen's best line came from a voicemail.
 
Saw this during the weekend, and I gotta say it's a average reboot in every sense of the word. The cast was great, but everything else just felt a bit stale.

They left out a lot of important characters such as Harry and Norman Osborn (Probably will be introduced in the next movie), JJJ and others. It just felt like the whole movie is a set up for a potentially great sequel.

Also after the credits...
anyone have an idea of who the guy in the prison with Connors was? I'm secretly hoping it was Kingpin...I feel like he'd make a good villian for a future movie.
 
I know it will never see the light of day but Id like to see it even though it didnt test well. I wonder how theyll treat it in the sequel.


Also after the credits...
anyone have an idea of who the guy in the prison with Connors was? I'm secretly hoping it was Kingpin...I feel like he'd make a good villian for a future movie.

Fox owns Kingpin as part of the Daredevil license :(
Nobody really knows who the man at the end was. Could be Norman but Rhys says it isnt. Other people think it might be Mysterio.
 
I know it will never see the light of day but Id like to see it even though it didnt test well. I wonder how theyll treat it in the sequel.

It will never see the light of day, they only showed it to him because he asked the right people and has enough clout to get them to do it as a favour (because they want the bank's money). It's interesting anyway, and I trust his judgement, if he says it didn't work out well then it probably didn't. He has been in the business for nearly 20 years.

Also, he inquired about licencing arrangements for villains with Marvel. According to their deal they can licence villains already given out to other studios that have not been used in any Marvel Studios movie, so if they wanted Kingpin they probably could get him in.
 
Saw Amazing Spider-man over the weekend and have mixed feelings. For a large part of the film I just wanted them to get on with it and skip a re-telling of how Peter Parker gets his super-powers. We've seen that story before and not that long ago.

On the other hand, I feel like they brought some fresh takes to the story and modernized it some. I appreciated that Peter wasn't a total dork and even Flash had a bit of personality to him. This Spider-man had more of his trademark sense of humor and you actually got the impression that he was indeed a very smart kid. As a purist to the story, I also liked the inclusion of the mechanical web shooters too.

While I wasn't blown away by this version of Spider-man, in part because I felt a reboot was unnecessary so soon, I do look forward to where they take the story from here. As with other reboots (ie: Star Trek) I look much more forward to the second film than the first.
 
Saw Amazing Spider-man over the weekend and have mixed feelings. For a large part of the film I just wanted them to get on with it and skip a re-telling of how Peter Parker gets his super-powers. We've seen that story before and not that long ago.

On the other hand, I feel like they brought some fresh takes to the story and modernized it some. I appreciated that Peter wasn't a total dork and even Flash had a bit of personality to him. This Spider-man had more of his trademark sense of humor and you actually got the impression that he was indeed a very smart kid. As a purist to the story, I also liked the inclusion of the mechanical web shooters too.

While I wasn't blown away by this version of Spider-man, in part because I felt a reboot was unnecessary so soon, I do look forward to where they take the story from here. As with other reboots (ie: Star Trek) I look much more forward to the second film than the first.

Yeah, I think that's the main issue with the film. The sequel will be much better.
 
Saw this during the weekend, and I gotta say it's a average reboot in every sense of the word. The cast was great, but everything else just felt a bit stale.

They left out a lot of important characters such as Harry and Norman Osborn (Probably will be introduced in the next movie), JJJ and others. It just felt like the whole movie is a set up for a potentially great sequel.

Also after the credits...
anyone have an idea of who the guy in the prison with Connors was? I'm secretly hoping it was Kingpin...I feel like he'd make a good villian for a future movie.
It's who ever they write into the sequel, at a later date.

You will never see an after the credits stinger lack balls like this one ever again.
 
I know it will never see the light of day but Id like to see it even though it didnt test well. I wonder how theyll treat it in the sequel.




Fox owns Kingpin as part of the Daredevil license :(
Nobody really knows who the man at the end was. Could be Norman but Rhys says it isnt. Other people think it might be Mysterio.

Aww man. :/
But Mysterio would be great.

It's who ever they write into the sequel, at a later date.

You will never see an after the credits stinger lack balls like this one ever again.

Haha true. That was completely underwhelming now that I think about it. It left me really confused.
 
I saw this a couple nights ago on Saturday and I thought it was pretty decent... it didn't blow me away like the original Spider-Man did when I saw that originally but I'm also not a 15 year old boy anymore. There was some very obvious problems with the movie but overall it managed to keep me engaged. I enjoyed how they let a lot of Spider-Man's teenage character show through even when he was wearing the suit - it didn't automatically transform his persona. I'm hoping over the course of the next movie or so (or maybe even by the next film) he's a more mature character after all that's happened to him but I didn't mind that he was a little naive here - hopefully he retains his wit though, obviously.
 
i dont see a problem with the mask stuff.


i think it only comes off like 3 times right?

2 of those was someone unmasking him (lizard and captain stacy)

and the one with the kid was a good justification
 
i think it only comes off like 3 times right?

2 of those was someone unmasking him (lizard and captain stacy)

and the one with the kid was a good justification

Yes and he even kicked their asses in an attempt to stay concealed but Stacy got the better of him.

I don't see the big deal about it either, but I never have understood anal purist complaints.
 
Yes and he even kicked their asses in an attempt to stay concealed but Stacy got the better of him.

I don't see the big deal about it either, but I never have understood anal purist complaints.

Personally, I find all of Pete's unmasking to make sense in context with the exception of one scene. After the high school fight when he's looking for the lizard, he just randomly takes his mask off. I feel like either there was a reason for this that was cut from the film, but it doesn't make sense on its own.
 
So I just saw it again, and idk if you guys have talked about it but how does the High School not notice the nerdiest guy take down Flash and shatter the basketball backboard, as well as dent the football goalpost, and not suspect he just might be Spider-Man?
 
So I just saw it again, and idk if you guys have talked about it but how does the High School not notice the nerdiest guy take down Flash and shatter the basketball backboard, as well as dent the football goalpost, and not suspect he just might be Spider-Man?

Also, this.
 
You know, I saw this movie earlier and it was alright, but...

STOP. REMOVING. THE GODDAMNED MASK.

Seriously, who doesn't know that Peter Parker = Spider-Man now?

And he should have kept his promise to Captain Stacy. Now... well, you know.

Also, that genetic tampering bullshit better not be in the sequel.

That's about it.


The whole movie smacked of studio executives pushing to show his pretty face more. I mean, he spends more time in the suit with the mask off than on.
 
So I just saw it again, and idk if you guys have talked about it but how does the High School not notice the nerdiest guy take down Flash and shatter the basketball backboard, as well as dent the football goalpost, and not suspect he just might be Spider-Man?

I hate that super powered shit where the people just go "Oh, yeah, that's perfectly normal... Lets all go back to wondering who this masked superhero crime fighter could be!"

HORRIBLE STORYTELLING. Its stupid in Comics and freaking unforgivable in film.
 
Saw it this past weekend.
So she's going to die right? She has to. Introduce MJ as a friend before Gwen's death? I would feel robbed if she doesn't die.
 
So I just saw it again, and idk if you guys have talked about it but how does the High School not notice the nerdiest guy take down Flash and shatter the basketball backboard, as well as dent the football goalpost, and not suspect he just might be Spider-Man?

I never understood that. Both Basketball and Football are practicing at the same time. I don't know how New York works, but at my highschool there were seasons for sports. I mean the scene on the bleachers could have easily worked on it's own without foot ball being practiced.
 
So I just saw it again, and idk if you guys have talked about it but how does the High School not notice the nerdiest guy take down Flash and shatter the basketball backboard, as well as dent the football goalpost, and not suspect he just might be Spider-Man?

The tone of the movie is stuck somewhere between silly and serious, and its my biggest gripe with the film.
 
Idk, I just really want someone to ask Marc Webb that. That's really my only major thing against the film. Overall, it was really enjoyable.
 
Idk, I just really want someone to ask Marc Webb that. That's really my only major thing against the film. Overall, it was really enjoyable.

"Just wait till TASM 2. Peter's going to do some wild things to Volley ball nets and Soccer goals." would be the greatest response on the face of the Earth.
 
So whats the deal with the scene where Captain Stacy saves Spidey from the Lizard (on the roof). The Lizard starts torturing/choking Spidey, the Stacy comes up and says "He's not alone!" and instead of shooting Connors... like in the face with his shotgun, he shoots the random tube one the roof that contains some freezing gas. Then the pipe bust open and Spidey grabs it and quickly turns it on Connors to freeze him.

So how did Stacy know what was going to happen if he shot that pipe? Did he discuss this with Peter in a deleted scene? Wouldn't it have made more sense for Stacy (not knowing what's going on) to shoot Connors and have him drop Spidey. Then have him say something like "Captain, shoot this pipe!" and then have the scene play out like it did in the movie (for the most part).
 
Brilliant? I'd go with "serviceable" for their roles. Leary was the only big name actor who was given a chance to shine, and he did pretty good. I don't think Leary's suited for the good guy, Mr. Police Captain role, however. Sheen's best line came from a voicemail.

Difference of opinion I guess. I thought they did a good job.


So I just saw it again, and idk if you guys have talked about it but how does the High School not notice the nerdiest guy take down Flash and shatter the basketball backboard, as well as dent the football goalpost, and not suspect he just might be Spider-Man?

Eh, its plausible. He's a nerd, but as a skater there's no reason to think he'd be unfit so I can see the basketball scene working. The goal post was less plausible, but its possible they didn't see who threw the ball or something. Spiderman could be anyone in the city. At the time of the basketball scene noone even knew him yet, but there still wouldn't be much of a reason to suspect him just because he broke the hoop.
 
Saw it this past weekend.
So she's going to die right? She has to. Introduce MJ as a friend before Gwen's death? I would feel robbed if she doesn't die.

My guess is they will tease it during the second movie but not go ahead with it. The third movie will probably be when they choose to make it happen but whether or not they will is another matter. Right now it feels like the odds are 50/50 they will go through with it. However, I think eventually
everyone will love Emma's performance as Gwen so much that she will become too popular to kill off.

Now that I think about it, it would be funny if the role of Mary Jane gets miscast and everyone ends up hating her. They will rage even more over Gwen's death if an MJ they don't like takes her place.
 
Saw it this past weekend.
So she's going to die right? She has to. Introduce MJ as a friend before Gwen's death? I would feel robbed if she doesn't die.
That's what i'm hoping as well (introducing MJ). But yeah, so would I, and Emma Stone herself has said something similar. She knows it's coming and it has to happen or else fans would flip the shit.

Eh, its plausible. He's a nerd, but as a skater there's no reason to think he'd be unfit so I can see the basketball scene working. The goal post was less plausible, but its possible they didn't see who threw the ball or something. Spiderman could be anyone in the city. At the time of the basketball scene noone even knew him yet, but there still wouldn't be much of a reason to suspect him just because he broke the hoop.
Yeah, I didn't really have an issue with it tbh. Neither did I taking his mask off in some parts. It felt right and worked, not forced or anything. Like you said, the goalpost thing was the only glaring thing.
 
The goalpost thing was a joke; they could have easily cut it out and not affected the entire movie's plot one bit. So it's not really something to get hung up on.
 
Just saw this movie. Wow, what a bad movie.
Uninteresting story and villain. Mediocre CGI. Average acting.
Didn't really care for Garfield as Peter Parker either, I think Toby's take was better.
The whole movie just felt so unnecessary. I can't think of a single thing it did better than Spiderman 1, and it definitely did some things worse. That's not good, not when SM1 wasn't that great of a movie to begin with.
 
I usually like the red-heads, but blond Emma Stone is best Emma Stone

HA. You guys.

Darker Emma Stone is winrar.

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She is absolutely gorgeous, regardless of hair colour, though.
 
Saw it, liked it. Garfield and Stone did a great job IMO. (Excellent chemistry.) I enjoyed the changes to the origin story too, kept it interesting.

He took off his mask too much though and there were too many visual gags at the expense of his "secret" identity, which probably isn't so secret anymore.

Hopefully they'll tighten it up in the sequel(s), but I'm looking forward to them.
 
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