Mine's not too bad about it. No stigma for taking PTO, get 3-4 weeks PTO per year as entry level hire, can overdraw one week (you just need to work your way back into the positive), plus work from home as needed. I took over 4 weeks off this year including one 3-week trip abroad. Still kinda want more though, lol.
The American vs. Europe view on vacations and time off is flabbergasting
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No, the reason for Europe's woes is austerity. It is based on a proven math error in some researchers Excel sheet.
The Technomancer
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I wouldn't say its based on that error although the error was there. Austerity has been an attractive yet moronic idea for ages.
That's most definitely not the case. It's higher because of dumb policies and actions by the EU. Mainly giving up monetary sovereignty and then pushing austerity on the most vulnerable of the nations.
Yeah I can't even fathom that. It seems absolutely crazy to me. But I think it'd be so awesome. I'd get big breaks where I could work on some personal projects like my writing, then come back to work with a renewed vigor.
Yeah that's true. I reality they probably fudged the data in order to prove the viability of austerity.
For good reason. Home births are risky as hell. Time is of the utmost importance, and if you don't have an OR on hand you could be in some deep shit. It is more common that you just book a room at a hospital and have the midwife come there.
I just started working for the government, and I don't accumulate much time off currently, but I get all holidays off, I can work from home, and if I ever have to work over 40 hours a week the time comes off of my shifts the following week. It's not so bad, but I'd definitely like to be getting more vacation time than my couple of weeks a year.
Daniel Jackson
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The Netherlands. Not quite a perfect heaven (we're not immune to the effects of the economical crisis Europe is currently in), but all kinds of laws do make sure the citizens are taken care of.
This is an interesting article: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/magazine/03european-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Phoenician_Viking
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It´s the same here in Denmark. In May/June we got 2 wages. One your work wage and the other one your annual vacation pay. I got around 3000$ in vacation money in addition to my salary. And you get paid vacation, as in get salary while on vacation in a lot of places, but you have to work a year before you earn it. It´s so great.
...then they will complain why we run this world as the most powerful empire in human history while half of their continent is going bankrupt. lazy people and their moaning about US domination
but hey at least they get maternity leave, but I prefer my stock options
Used to work retail seven days a week with no vacation time that I could realistically used. Now I work as a teachers assistant and I get weekends and some holidays off which is nice. I get summers off from my main school but I do not get paid during the summer. It is expected that I work summer school and attend training in order to get paid over the summer. So outside of the weekends over the summer I got two days off. Honestly not "working" at night (still have to plan and grade), or on the weekends is a pretty sweet deal. I never really need to take a vacation. Those two days are all I need.
So much wrong in this post. I recommend reading some world history, also stock options are available in benefit plans here plus holidays and maternity/paternity.
Flatline
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USA has the income inequality of a banana republic so average income doesn't say much. This is the best I could find for median income:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income
If you live in the US, and are paid hourly, I'm pretty sure this is illegal.
fizzelopeguss
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You've never run into lunchbox before? he's a brilliant satirist.
you're currently posting from an computer running on an American OS, on an American run website, listening to American music, waiting to watch American movies, playing American games, watching the news to see what my country will do next to complain about America. Look around you, what are you using, something from Microsoft, Google or apple? are you worried about stocks in the Newyork stock exchange or are you concerned about the next American influenced media you will consume
those things don't get made during vacation time. we dominate this world because of our work ethic while some people prefer lying on the couch complaining. different cultures and perspectives on life and our one has served us well
Hey man all those liberal states are messing it up for the rest of us.
I'll take my states Gini coefficient of .419
and drive a German car, right?
Arjen
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Lol, nice one.
and wear italian sunglasses, swiss watches and french polos. usa is a first world service economy, not a manual labor production line. there are other countries who are willing to fulfill those needs.
Made in China, Designed in California
I had stock options that were underwater for 5 years, pretty much only managers get options now. Can we really afford to be so generous with managers? Giving managers perks insulates them from the reat of society, take away all their insider benefits and they will start fixing what they broke when they are in the same sinking boat that everyone else is in.
so your American things actually are made during vacation time then? and by others no less
you're good with a non sequitur
im guessing you dont know the different roles of economies. low cost labor is not available in the US. so of course they will be "made" in other countries. Your ceo and cfo is not cleaning the toilets in your office. Wearing "Made in USA" is not a pride for us. Using our money to buy Made in italy and Swiss mades is power
you're saying two different things
the first thing is that you import things from other countries, well...a lot of countries do that, it's trade
the second thing is that you outsource manufacturing to other countries, again, a lot of countries do that too since it makes good (exploitative) sense
are you saying both of these are a source of pride, or neither, or one of them?
because any of these being a source of pride is hilarious, and has really little to do with the topic of work ethic
the first thing is that you import things from other countries, well...a lot of countries do that, it's trade
the second thing is that you outsource manufacturing to other countries, again, a lot of countries do that too since it makes good (exploitative) sense
are you saying both of these are a source of pride, or neither, or one of them?
because any of these being a source of pride is hilarious, and has really little to do with the topic of work ethic
Flatline
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So both not using American products and using American products "is power" for the USA. How convenient.
This is true. I'm glad i can enjoy these things right now on my long vacation. Keep on working hard. My small country is not dominating anything, but it does not seem to matter at all in reality. Things are really well here all things considered.
nothing in the last 2/3 posts are on topic, it was a jab from you at my bmw being german. and as you said, having low cost exploitative manufacturing lines in your country is nothing to be a proud of. we have our products made in other countries since low cost labor isnt available here, they are American products, but not made in USA. profits from those products come to our corporations
Flatline
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Don't be sarcastic, he's enriching his life working in his 98$ lacoste polo a lot more than you vacationing in some cheap-ass t-shirt. No seriously, what are you wearing right now? Is it more expensive than his 170$ raybans?
Arjen
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But Germany doesn't have low labor costs and it's not designed in America. Frankly i feel youre being really unpatriotic by driving a BMW.
SpoonyBard
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Lacoste is French and Rayban is Italian. Don't feed the troll...
Azzurri
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For me it's different since it's family owned so I get more payed days than our employees, but I never take them. I don't like extended vacations, and the only time I do is when I go to Italy to visit my family, but it's been like 5 years since I've been. What I do like is taking off a Friday and Monday for when I go to Las Vegas a couple times a year, and or "mini" vacations with a group of my friends.
It didn't even occur to me that others may not get vacation money. What a scary thought.
He is a Patriots fan.
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GraveHorizon
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It's not a "come in or else" situation, they just say that they really need help cleaning everything and ask if we're available. They're good people (aside from the homophobia) and I have a reputation of being a hard worker, so I feel obligated to help out. My work ethic keeps me from outright saying no.
And we run through people so much because it's mostly college age kids that didn't understand the hours and assumed they can just take off any day they want, people that find out working in a small restaurant is actual work, or people that just suck at doing the simplest things.
What type of jobs do get paid vacation time? Is it mostly large places that run 24/7 with multiple people to fill in for others? I'm imagining corporate business type jobs.
Fuck, I gotta move to Europe.
Arjen
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Hell yes, i use it to buy ray bans and ralph lauren though.
Yeah. I get 50% of my salary on top of my usual salary during vacation as a "vacation money". It's quite standard practice around Europe though the amounts vary from country to country.
Well as long as you are happy. And as long as you are getting paid to come in.
But from here it honestly sounds like exploitation. They are commending you on being such a hard worker, and as a reward they are guilting you into working even harder on what should be your vacation.
Everyone. As long as it's a legit job, you get vacation money. In Sweden it's only about 12% on top of your normal pay, but it's better than nothing i guess.
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