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[Agent Icebeezy]

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Did a search, saw nothing on this. So I posted it

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Very good articles. They provide the perspectives of each company's approach very well. I especially liked this bit about Microsoft

And it's these areas that are surely of supreme importance to Microsoft - the raison d'être of its Xbox ambition. If, in 2010, the leading next generation console had a Windows-based development environment and operating system underlying it, and a Microsoft-controlled (and tithed) digital distribution network sitting on top, would it really matter to Microsoft if a Sony or Nintendo badge were on the front?

Making hardware is likely a short-term play - owning the de facto standard software that powers the hardware is the point. Microsoft can't allow another company to make a land grab that threatens its dominance as the platform for software in the living room, no more than it can in IT departments.

Xbox 360 isn't life and death for Microsoft: it's much more important than that.

I never thought about it that way, good job on the writer's part.

 

[TheGamingGuru]

good read..thx for the linkage

 

[Striek]

I didn't think much of them, he basically took the common viewpoint on each hardware makers position in the market. Nothing terrible interesting.

 

[nubbe]

Very good articles. They provide the perspectives of each company's approach very well. I especially liked this bit about Microsoft


I never thought about it that way, good job on the writer's part.

Seriously?

 

[Rahul]

Meh articles with nothing new to think about, the only decent thing about them was that they weren't particularly biased. Until this, that is:

If the Revolution is quashed, the first platform to host all Nintendo's games could also be its last.

Which in one sentence proves the author doesn't know what he's talking about.

Good try! Come back next time.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

If Nintendo and Sony had excepted the Windows platform on the PS2 and Nintendo on the GC, the Xbox would have never existed.

 

[Doube D]

Meh articles with nothing new to think about, the only decent thing about them was that they weren't particularly biased. Until this, that is:



Which in one sentence proves the author doesn't know what he's talking about.

Good try! Come back next time.

Why? It's called REALITY. Nintendo hasn't earned jack from the console end of things. If the revolution is also a failure, then what reason do they have to build further consoles. Sure they will continue to produce hand helds and will continue to have plenty of money in the bank... so what? The shareholders will tell them to start going software only ASAP.

 

[Rahul]

Why? It's called REALITY. Nintendo hasn't earned jack from the console end of things. If the revolution is also a failure, then what reason do they have to build further consoles. Sure they will continue to produce hand helds and will continue to have plenty of money in the bank... so what? The shareholders will tell them to start going software only ASAP.

Good try! Come back next time.

 

[meelk]

Why? It's called REALITY. Nintendo hasn't earned jack from the console end of things. If the revolution is also a failure, then what reason do they have to build further consoles. Sure they will continue to produce hand helds and will continue to have plenty of money in the bank... so what? The shareholders will tell them to start going software only ASAP.

wrong. theres a handful of people who own MOST of nintendo's stock, and they are 100% behind the company and its decisions.

 

[rod]

Good try! Come back next time.

iawtp

 

[Oblivion]

Good try! Come back next time.

Haha, nice. I'll agree with this and your previous post.

 

[sangreal]

I never thought about it that way, good job on the writer's part.

I was under the impression that everyone thought about that. But really, it isn't going to happen. The console world just doesn't work that way. If Nintendo and Sony adopted a Microsoft platform for a generation there is nothing stopping them from dropping it the next generation and Microsoft would be back to square one.

 

[littlewig]

Personally, I find it insulting how the author glosses over Nintendo's efforts in online gaming. This is where Nintendo is going to try and take big strides, where they are looking to potentially change the way we play online games from now on.

Nintendo has been tinkering and scheming up online plans for the good part of the last two decades, to totally disregard this and consider it as a "Compromise" is ridiculous.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Why? It's called REALITY. Sony hasn't earned jack from the console end of things. If the PS3 is also a failure, then what reason do they have to build further consoles. Sure they will continue to produce movies and will continue to have zero money in the bank... so what? The shareholders will tell them to start going software only ASAP.

Oh no!

 

[littlewig]

God, I just finsihed reading the rest of the article and they are as bad as the Nintendo one.

This man is a walking turd with little orginial thought. He gives little in-depth analysis and uses standard analogys and common market stereotypes to describe the future of each company.

This guy is no Steve Kent.

 

[Luckett_X]

Nintendo has been tinkering and scheming up online plans for the good part of the last two decades, to totally disregard this and consider it as a "Compromise" is ridiculous.

Holy shit, what is that even based on? Nintendo has been researching online gaming before it even existed and maintained a "online gaming is a fad" ruse until now?!

I know the hive needs protecting but fuck! Calm down angry wasp!

 

[Rahul]

This guy is no Steve Kent.

As if that's some standard to adhere to? Even Steve Kent is no "Steve Kent", by that logic.

Holy shit, what is that even based on? Nintendo has been researching online gaming before it even existed and maintained a "online gaming is a fad" ruse until now?!

Say hello to Satellaview!

 

[SHOCKIE]

I was under the impression that everyone thought about that. But really, it isn't going to happen. The console world just doesn't work that way. If Nintendo and Sony adopted a Microsoft platform for a generation there is nothing stopping them from dropping it the next generation and Microsoft would be back to square one.

Yep,there would be an army of angry Xbots who would snub Microsoft if they left then tried to come back into the console market.

 

[littlewig]

Holy shit, what is that even based on? Nintendo has been researching online gaming before it even existed and maintained a "online gaming is a fad" ruse until now?!

I know the hive needs protecting but fuck! Calm down angry wasp!

You really need to educate yourself on Nintendo's attempts in online gaming, you'd be surpised at the stuff they were offering. But then again, I don't think you will bother and stick to your trolling.

 

[jarrod]

Say hello to Satellaview!

And Famicom Modem. And 64DD. And Mobile GB.

Nintendo's had more "online" game machines that Sony and Microsoft combined.

 

[Agent X]

The articles were very good, highlighting the focal points of each company's strategy. I don't understand why a few people in here are crying about bias--all of the articles seem to be calling it straight down the middle, without picking any clear winners or losers. These are probably some of the most unbiased articles around on the subject.

 

[God's Hand]

Nintendo has obviously done a lot of research regarding online gaming and even offered products for online gaming, but the attempts fail in comparison to Xbox Live. Live is the standard for online gaming and if Nintendo can offer a reasonably comparable service for free, that's great. But I'm expecting something rather simple. No online stats or gamer tags, anything like that. Just basic per-game settings. I'd be surprised if Revolution has a Dashboard where you enter your online name and all that.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

And Famicom Modem. And 64DD. And Mobile GB.

Nintendo's had more "online" game machines that Sony and Microsoft combined.

It's horribly embarassing when you guys bring up these services. But not in the way you intend. Don't jarrod, don't!

 

[Luckett_X]

Theres so much spin here I am getting dizzy.

The article is calling it a compromise because like it or not, in the online arena, Nintendo has been forced into playing catch up after so strictly dismissing online this gen with the gamecube. Reggie the Prophet himself admits they made a mistake with online this gen.

As far as the mainstream consumer is concerned, Nintendo haven't entered the online gaming battle yet. Hell, my DS sits here wondering when its prophesized wi-fi connection is going to spring into life still, a year after launch nearly.

I don't know who shone the Nintendo symbol into the night sky, but there are far more harsh biased articles you could be dismissing.

 

[jarrod]

It's horribly embarassing when you guys bring up these services. But not in the way you intend. Don't jarrod, don't!

True... I should be getting back to Mario Golf GBA anyway.

 

[TheInkyVoid]

Live is the standard for online gaming and if Nintendo can offer a reasonably comparable service for free, that's great.

Oh please!

MS's online service is sooo great they can't even get more than %10 of the installed base to sign up for it. And that's being very gracious and taking MS's claimed online subscriber numbers at face value.

And now with the 360 MS has had to turn to giving away part of the service for free.

MS's online service is a legend in Xbox fans' own minds.

 

[Unison]

Jeez, the Dreamcast ran Windows CE. Obviously, that wasn't enough for Microsoft. They want to help define what a customer thinks a game console can do. They just don't want to sell software to console manufacturers.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Actually they'd be happy just to sell OS software to hardware manufacturers, and make their vig that way. Just like they do with PCs. The reason they're making the hardware, is because no-one (Sony / Nintendo) took the bait, having seen what happened to IBM.

 

[Apharmd Battler]

Thanks for the info

 

[mckmas8808]

Oh please!

MS's online service is sooo great they can't even get more than %10 of the installed base to sign up for it. And that's being very gracious and taking MS's claimed online subscriber numbers at face value.

And now with the 360 MS has had to turn to giving away part of the service for free.

MS's online service is a legend in Xbox fans' own minds.

So who has a better online situation today for consoles then TheInkyVoid?

but the attempts fail in comparison to Xbox Live.

How about fails in comparison to Sony's Online with the PS2. Nintendo needs to at least do what Sony did with the PS2 first before trying to compete with Live.

 

[Zeo]

Oh please!

MS's online service is sooo great they can't even get more than %10 of the installed base to sign up for it. And that's being very gracious and taking MS's claimed online subscriber numbers at face value.

And now with the 360 MS has had to turn to giving away part of the service for free.

MS's online service is a legend in Xbox fans' own minds.

Wow, do you enjoy being almost completely wrong?

 

[Spencerr]

The Bigger Picture: Get a job, get all three!

 

[Prine]

Oh please!

MS's online service is sooo great they can't even get more than %10 of the installed base to sign up for it. And that's being very gracious and taking MS's claimed online subscriber numbers at face value.

And now with the 360 MS has had to turn to giving away part of the service for free.

MS's online service is a legend in Xbox fans' own minds.

You totally missed the point that you need broadband and credit card on top of an Xbox to play online. 10 percent is a great foundation on which to build upon, its a percentage which encourages big developers from the west and east to look at Xbox as their lead platform for online development. MS managed to get some great Japanese titles online. Games like Tekki, Phantom Dust, DOA, Winning Eleven and now (what fans have been waiting for) Ridge Racer 6.

I think you're being incredibly shortsighted

 

[Link316]

If Nintendo and Sony had excepted the Windows platform on the PS2 and Nintendo on the GC, the Xbox would have never existed.

Sony & Nintendo shouldn't have to accept something that they don't need

 

[sangreal]

:lol TheInkyVoid strikes again! Just ignore this troll

 

[Zaptruder]

You'd think someone just set off an a-bomb in Nintendo HQ, the damage control here from ninty fans here is that bad.

 

[stone128]

Nintendo is touting online with the Revolution. I don't think they will offer anything less than Xbox Live.

I think the president of Square-Enix even went on record and said how wonderful the new Nintendo online feature would be, claiming it had a totally new way of handling things... or whatever.

 

[Andrew2]

You totally missed the point that you need broadband and credit card on top of an Xbox to play online. 10 percent is a great foundation on which to build upon, its a percentage which encourages big developers from the west and east to look at Xbox as their lead platform for online development. MS managed to get some great Japanese titles online. Games like Tekki, Phantom Dust, DOA, Winning Eleven and now (what fans have been waiting for) Ridge Racer 6.

I think you're being incredibly shortsighted

Yep, just like all of Microsoft's other ventures outside of software and IT investement have shown little results. Its no wonder why thier H&E division is still in a hole till this day.

The thing about Microsoft, they all these type of goals for the H&E(even Live), but get short-changed every step of the way. In fact, I'm quite suprised Apple's music distribution service is tearing apart Microsoft's, and your talking something from a small corporation vs. a much larger.

 

[Juice]

Sony & Nintendo shouldn't have to accept something that they don't need

Agreed. While the story is a little different for DirectX (and now moreso for XNA), Windows isn't exactly adaptive.

However, we have Windows CE to thank for the majority of Dreamcasts being able to play ripped discs of games and roms.

 

[Ruzbeh]

Good read (Rev article). I agree with everything. Though it was a bit short, I went right through it in a minute. Short. But sweet.

 

[shpankey]

Oh please!

MS's online service is sooo great they can't even get more than %10 of the installed base to sign up for it. And that's being very gracious and taking MS's claimed online subscriber numbers at face value.

And now with the 360 MS has had to turn to giving away part of the service for free.

MS's online service is a legend in Xbox fans' own minds.

so in your opinion, Nintendo shouldn't jump in on the online bandwagon until they can be assured of mass market penetration? forget about building a foundation and working their way up, learning, growing, expanding and building its brand name. it's either everything (everyone) or nothing? all at once. i love the hives rationalization of everything. :lol it's like he's saying he's glad Nintendo's not online because MSFT ony has 10% of it's userbase online. as if he's personally happy about not being online.

 

[Particle Physicist]

so in your opinion, Nintendo shouldn't jump in on the online bandwagon until they can be assured of mass market penetration?

nintendo couldnt afford jumping into the online bandwagon too soon. they dont have the flexibility to lose millions of dollars. thats why they never really went online with the gamecube. now they have a strategy which they believe will be profitable (selling old classics as downloadables.. to help fund free online play).

 

[shpankey]

what's to lose? they don't have to do a Live right now... they could just do what Sony does at least. they don't need central servers etc... let developers do their own thing... allow users to host their own games etc.

 

[fiddlestick]

good read

 

[Particle Physicist]

what's to lose? they don't have to do a Live right now... they could just do what Sony does at least. they don't need central servers etc... let developers do their own thing... allow users to host their own games etc.

they did do that, but devs didnt take to it. dont get me wrong. i wish the GC would have been online.. but oh well. next gen it is.