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Bernie and Hillz going to South Carolina is gonna be fun.
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welcome to the hood
As Bernie supporter... Shock I know... I'm not voting for Bernie because I think he can get those things done. I am voting for him because he comes from a strong point... these are our demands... and we want them. Then when negotiations occur we'll hopefully get something that we do want in there... instead of starting, at what I consider, a weak point with Hilary. Let's expand on ACA... Okay, what does that mean exactly? And really you're going into the negotiation room with that?
Also I mean who else is closer inline with what I want? My choice is Bernie who is left leaning (and I don't agree that we need Single Payer or on every issue with him.) But he's the only one saying anything substantial. If there were another Democratic or strong Independent out there actually putting forth other Liberal ideas and plans I would be voting for them probably.
Right now my choices as a Liberal are Hilary who wants to not rock the boat and just coast through the possible next 8 years... Or Bernie Sanders who is incredibly idealistic.
Think I'll stick with the idealistic one.
Sanders supporters seem to have a hard time understanding that criticizing Bernie and his supporters doesn't mean you automatically like Hillary.
I am aware that it doesn't mean you have to likely Hilary.
I was stating something about myself, in response to the fact that you don't think I live in reality.
I've said it before but Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump (and their fanbases by extension) are different sides of the same coin. Neither one has a realistic concept of what the fuck the president can actually do, neither one for fulfill a tenth of what they are saying they could, both fall apart when someone stops play softball and presses them, and I'm not convinced either actually cares about minorities. I think Bernie thinks he does care but is clueless and I think Trump legit gives no fucks whatsoever. Both of them have extremely vocal supporters that seem to take no small amount of pleasure in shouting down minority issues, though from different angles: Berniebros go with a covert "Marched with MLK" racism while Trumpers go with a "get out my country, build a wall, track the Muslims" overt racism. And both of them are legitimately charismatic, enough so that a good number of people can't see past the MASSIVE PROBLEMS each brings to the table.
We making shit up now? Is that what's hot in the streets?
I've said it before but Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump (and their fanbases by extension) are different sides of the same coin. Neither one has a realistic concept of what the fuck the president can actually do, neither one for fulfill a tenth of what they are saying they could, both fall apart when someone stops play softball and presses them, and I'm not convinced either actually cares about minorities. I think Bernie thinks he does care but is clueless and I think Trump legit gives no fucks whatsoever. Both of them have extremely vocal supporters that seem to take no small amount of pleasure in shouting down minority issues, though from different angles: Berniebros go with a covert "Marched with MLK" racism while Trumpers go with a "get out my country, build a wall, track the Muslims" overt racism. And both of them are legitimately charismatic, enough so that a good number of people can't see past the MASSIVE PROBLEMS each brings to the table.
UltimaPooh said:As Bernie supporter... Shock I know... I'm not voting for Bernie because I think he can get those things done. I am voting for him because he comes from a strong point... these are our demands... and we want them. Then when negotiations occur we'll hopefully get something that we do want in there... instead of starting, at what I consider, a weak point with Hilary. Let's expand on ACA... Okay, what does that mean exactly? And really you're going into the negotiation room with that?
Also I mean who else is closer inline with what I want? My choice is Bernie who is left leaning (and I don't agree that we need Single Payer or on every issue with him.) But he's the only one saying anything substantial. If there were another Democratic or strong Independent out there actually putting forth other Liberal ideas and plans I would be voting for them probably.
Right now my choices as a Liberal are Hilary who wants to not rock the boat and just coast through the possible next 8 years... Or Bernie Sanders who is incredibly idealistic.
Think I'll stick with the idealistic one.
It just might be my ignorance on the subject.
But what other events has people coming up and taking the mic stand over? And they handled it in better ways?
I dunno. You tell me.
So is it that you can't parse the fact that a period indicates that end of that sentiment or that you don't recognize that the word one is a clear indicator that I'm specifically referring to the candidates and not their supporters with that particular statement?
(and their fanbases by extension) are different sides of the same coin. Neither one has a realistic concept of what the fuck the president can actually do,
(and their fanbases by extension) are different sides of the same coin.
(and their fanbases by extension)
Man, how many mental hoops did you jump through to get offended just now? You in training for the olympics later this year?
My great grandma always said to not just look at someone, but look at the company they keep.
Bernie sticks with bad company.
Completely unrelated:
http://qz.com/609293/how-american-tipping-grew-out-of-racism/
I'll quote the specific part this time for you.
Specifically meaning... that by extension you feel the same about their supporters. Sorry if you didn't mean to put it that way, but you did.
I'm not really offended. I thought I would just engage with discussion.
So Coates is voting for Sanders.
There are some fucking apologies to be had.
Did you guys know this even existed? The Google Cultural Institute - https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/home
It is full of exhibits for BHM. Google does such a poor job in communicating their products/content. This content is REALLY outstanding.
My great grandma always said to not just look at someone, but look at the company they keep.
Bernie sticks with bad company.
Completely unrelated:
http://qz.com/609293/how-american-tipping-grew-out-of-racism/
So Coates is voting for Sanders.
There are some fucking apologies to be had.
So Coates is voting for Sanders.
There are some fucking apologies to be had.
As Bernie supporter... Shock I know... I'm not voting for Bernie because I think he can get those things done. I am voting for him because he comes from a strong point... these are our demands... and we want them. Then when negotiations occur we'll hopefully get something that we do want in there... instead of starting, at what I consider, a weak point with Hilary. Let's expand on ACA... Okay, what does that mean exactly? And really you're going into the negotiation room with that?
Also I mean who else is closer inline with what I want? My choice is Bernie who is left leaning (and I don't agree that we need Single Payer or on every issue with him.) But he's the only one saying anything substantial. If there were another Democratic or strong Independent out there actually putting forth other Liberal ideas and plans I would be voting for them probably.
Right now my choices as a Liberal are Hilary who wants to not rock the boat and just coast through the possible next 8 years... Or Bernie Sanders who is incredibly idealistic.
Think I'll stick with the idealistic one.
don't hold your breath. You'll die from oxygen deprivation.
Dropped both in the BHM thread.
Might do a proper write up of the tipping one.
Was just coming to post thisSo Coates is voting for Sanders.
There are some fucking apologies to be had.
You don't test people that you're trying to get to know like that, that's childish. You have a decent conversation and not overstep the decency of the conversation.
My issue is he's saying substantial things that are unsubstantiated. What I'd like to be accomplished, and what's realistically going to be accomplished are two different things. I could go up there and say I'm going to make it so that everyone working minimum wage is going to have a livable income - which is going to be $20+ an hour depending on where you live. How am I going to pay for that? I'm going to slash the defense budget considerably, close tax loop holes on corporations and make sure our millionaires/billionaires/corporations are paying their fair share. That's definitely a position I support, and it's legitimately possible from a financial standpoint, but is it realistically feasible?
I'm not going to give someone credit for selling me a utopia, when the backbone of their plan involves something as ridiculously arbitrary as a political revolution to shake up the political sphere.
lmaoYou don't take out your star quarterback in a tight match to let the untested rookie get some experience.
Are we back to that part of the BCT cycle where we eating each other alive
Are we back to that part of the BCT cycle where we eating each other alive
This is not the dream Dr. King had in mind.Are we back to that part of the BCT cycle where we eating each other alive
Do we ever really leave it?
Not much of a fight useless you got Mulan on your backOne Piece > Naruto.
Fight me.
One Piece > Naruto.
Fight me.
Do we ever really leave it?
Only when the Europeans remember their place.
Zabuza the real MVP
Wherever our place is, it's gotta be worst than the blessed existence you're living in.
Naruto isn't good.One Piece > Naruto.
Fight me.
One Piece > Naruto.
Fight me.
The Zabuza arc was probably the height of the series. Them feels.
Also after gamer-gate I'm really surprised Bernie supporters on Neogaf of all places are dismissing the harassment people are receiving from the Bernie Bros.
Do we ever really leave it?
Only when the Europeans remember their place.
Wherever our place is, it's gotta be better than the repressed-fandom hell you're living in.
Fully agreed. US da bes'.
One Piece > Naruto.
Fight me.
though you should take it to the Naruto thread