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The Black Culture Thread |OT14| Ruthless: The So Well Spoken Story

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Cindi Mayweather

Cindi Mayweather

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Storm Chamber said:
Sorry brehette, we've hit one of the lesser known BCT cycles known as the "ostrich" where the thread ignores a briefly debated "controversial" topic out of fear of anybody getting banned.

You'll have to revisit this in a couple of days, unfortunately.
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Nah it's aight. It's a discussion I prefer having with women anyways. No woman has ever shamed me for preferring my own race. They always kind of understand it.

The dude who plays The Flash (TV) is cute though.
 
Cindi Mayweather

Cindi Mayweather

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harSon said:
If racial preference is biological, then how can standards of beauty be susceptible to social perversion? And how can racial preference be biological, when distinctive races as a concept within humans has very little biological basis?

I don't see how you view an entire race of people, and come to the conclusion that you don't find them attractive in general. You've even said yourself that you don't find white men attractive, with the exception of Mediterranean men. Anglo people look radically different than people from the Iberian Peninsula (Spain, Portugal, etc). Slavic people look radically different than Mediterranean people. Semitic people look completely different than Italian people. People with predominantly European ancestry within South America, Middle East, etc. look completely different than those on mainland Europe. Within these groups of people, there are those with full lips, non-thin noses, darker complexions, etc. And obviously when you throw biracial mixtures into the mix, things get even more varied.

It's like saying you don't find black people attractive because you find darker skin, full lips and wider noses desirable - when that's not an accurate depiction of the diversity and varied-ness of black people within the United States and world wide.
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Things are varied, but I still don't find them attractive.

Black people are diverse, and I do tend to prefer west African features over East African features.

You say those features don't denote all black people but it's a pretty good rule of thumb for Black Americans.

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The Flash is literally the embodiment of every trait you claim to not find attractive....
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*shrug*

He's got a great smile. Cute is cute. Don't mean I'd date him tho.

Why you got a dog in this race? Why does this offend you so much? Is it because you're biracial?
 
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TheFlow

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Shy said:
Couple of questions.

1: how many of you lovelies are getting Overwatch. ?
2: If so, what's the breakdown on platform of choice. ?

I already pre-ordered it on PC, last year.
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Ps4. This won't be a super competitive game like counterstrike or league of legends. Plus the console controls are ace.

This is basically a rocket league type game. Easy, fun, and quick.

Being able to make 12 player matches with your friends with spectators is a great idea
 
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TheFlow

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Shy said:
LOL.

It might be, they're going to have a league system, such as L.O.L. what have you.
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Even with a league system it won't be on the same level. Too many maps and unfair game modes like escorts. Plus the matches area super quick

Edit: someone on Gaf made a long ass post about why over watch would be difficult to make competitive. I am just paraphrasing
 
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Kreed

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Cindi Mayweather said:
Receipts that sexual preference for ones own race is merely social?

Because:

http://gawker.com/is-there-a-biological-reason-for-sexually-preferring-a-1507424247

http://web.stanford.edu/~neilm/Political Ideology and Racial Preferences in Online Dating.pdf

You mention most Americans are mixed, but that doesn't change that I don't find white people, and to a lesser extent, non-black people period, attractive.

"Most Americans are mixed so having racial preferences" isn't much in the way of an actual argument, especially given while most Americans are mixed of something, we generally have a majority of our blood from a specific race. The average Black American has DNA that is 75% African. That's a lot. Whites, Asians;etc are similar. While true that people have mixed blood, to pretend that most American's don't have a preference for their own race is silly given sheer numbers and data.
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Gawker Article said:
The verdict: Though this is far from a settled question with a definitive answer, the consensus seems to be that evolution and genetics do likely play some role in humans' sexual preferences—quite possibly including racial preferences, although the exact nature of what goes into forming such preferences is unclear.

We can say definitively that there is not enough evidence for anyone to be able to say, "I only date [race] [women, men, or both] because that's in my genes." Open your minds, people. And your legs!
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Also, in regards to sexual preference being merely social, I don't agree that it's "all social" but things like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7U1QsUd1g

...illustrate that there is some social aspects involved in what people see as beautiful vs not. Now, I'm not saying any of this relates to you or your preferences at all. I'm just saying it's better to just do what you did in your earlier posts where you described physical characteristics you liked/didn't like vs saying something like "I don't like white men" or any blanket statement, which I really don't get the defense for anyway. Other than just being easier to type out, there's no advantage to it vs the other if, for example, you're on a dating app trying to tell all darker skin women not to approach you, type out "I don't like black women" on your profile, and then get upset when a woman from Bangladesh tries to hit you up.

Sorry brehette, we've hit one of the lesser known BCT cycles known as the "ostrich" where the thread ignores a briefly debated "controversial" topic out of fear of anybody getting banned.

You'll have to revisit this in a couple of days, unfortunately.
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I can only speak for myself, but I've been seeing this argument for a minute on this forum and it gets old after a while. If posters show up saying "let's talk about comics", I have no problem dropping it, especially when I want no part of criticizing Cindi for her legitimate preferences once this semantics discussion is over with.
 
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D i Z

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Shy said:
Couple of questions.

1: how many of you lovelies are getting Overwatch. ?
2: If so, what's the breakdown on platform of choice. ?

I already pre-ordered it on PC, last year.
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PS4

Storm Chamber said:
Sorry brehette, we've hit one of the lesser known BCT cycles known as the "ostrich" where the thread ignores a briefly debated "controversial" topic out of fear of anybody getting banned.

You'll have to revisit this in a couple of days, unfortunately.
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That's a shame. There are some people that are in here or lurk that could benefit from a serious discussion about this kind of thing. In case you guys haven't noticed, there are younger (in experience as well as in age) members that struggle with issues of ethnicity, and particularly attraction and the perceived limitations they might deal with and such.
As long as everyone respects each other and eases up on the confrontational aspects, we should be cool. That being said, If it doesn't seem like we can do this without getting personal then it would be best to shuffle this one along. For the time being.
 
Cindi Mayweather

Cindi Mayweather

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Kreed said:
Also, in regards to sexual preference being merely social, I don't agree that it's "all social" but things like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7U1QsUd1g

...illustrate that there is some social aspects involved in what people see as beautiful vs not. Now, I'm not saying any of this relates to you or your preferences at all. I'm just saying it's better to just do what you did in your earlier posts where you described physical characteristics you liked/didn't like vs saying something like "I don't like white men" or any blanket statement, which I really don't get the defense for anyway. Other than just being easier to type out, there's no advantage to it vs the other if, for example, you're on a dating app trying to tell all darker skin women not to approach you, type out "I don't like black women" on your profile, and then get upset when a woman from Bangladesh tries to hit you up.

I can only speak for myself, but I've been seeing this argument for a minute on this forum and it gets old after a while. If posters show up saying "let's talk about comics", I have no problem dropping it, especially when I want no part of criticizing Cindi for her legitimate preferences once this semantics discussion is over with.
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Now that I'm home and at a keyboard....

I believe the "natural" sexual preference is for partners who are broadly similar to oneself, in good physical condition, and in control of good resources, especially for women. Men tend to be more open to any mating opportunity, and to be less choosy. Any narrow preference for a particular type of sexual object, I tend to view as a form of culturally conditioned fetishism brought about by prior experiences, whether it be blond hair, red shoes or rubber gloves.
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The question is an interesting one. The short answer is: probably yes [it is determined by evolution] but we don't know for sure. We do know that virtually all psychological characteristics that have been studies are to some extent heritable. In fact, my own research shows that, compared with genetically nonidentical twins, genetically identical twins have more similar sexual and romantic partner preferences, which indicates that genes play a role in those preferences. No one has looked specifically for genetic influences on sexual preferences for different races, but I see no reason why this would not be to some extent heritable as well. It is important to note that 'to some extent heritable' does not mean that these preferences are 'biologically determined', only that genes play some role along with environmental influences which could include upbringing and cultural prejudices.
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See? I can oversimplify the article to make an overly reductionist talking point too!

It's interesting that you wholly ignore that the article posits that evolution and genetics do play a part in picking a mate. Harson's claim was that racial preference in picking mates is purely social. I never claimed, not once, that attraction to one's own race is only a genetic asset - because of course it isn't. However, one could be pretty hard pressed to come to the conclusion that the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

What did I say that was wrong? I've seen countless white men, and very few do anything for me. I know my sexual preferences, and it largely tends to be a black man. My examples were mostly overly simplified, because that's what talking about racial physical characteristics is at a base level: an over simplification. However, it does have some truth. White people do tend to have thinner noses, thinner lips, paler skin. Is this a blanket statement? Yes. Does it mean that all white men have these features? No. But an overwhelmingly amount of White American's do have these features, and combined with socialization with white men, it's rare for me to wooed by one. Much like how Asians tend to have flat noses, and African's tend to have black hair. Are there exceptions? Oh yeah, but exceptions don't take away from the general rule of basic observation. Further, it takes a very, very atypical white man to attract me.

Also, you're using absolutes. I would never say in an online dating profile, for instance, "No white men." To do so would be exclusionary and shallow, as well as discriminatory. I do not discriminate, but I do have preferences. So I'm more likely to ignore a white man's messages - and they have given me much reason to ignore their messages - than a black man's. What originally sparked this was me saying I'm going to be looking into dating interracially, with the exception of with white men. To be honest, I don't want to date interracially period as it adds complication to my already complicated life. However, the dating scene is so dire that I must as a necessity. That's all. I also included an addendum that I'm mostly willing to be courted by men of color, and not white men. Comparing me saying,"I'm not attracted to white men" in this thread, on a video game forum, to me putting "No White Men" in an online dating profile is quite a reach.

I'll keep my mind open, and if there's a white man that is very, very atypical and has an interest in me, I'll go for it. But that doesn't mean I have to actively pursue it, and why should I? I don't find white men physically attractive for the most part, and having a white man as a partner - something I've had before and did not like - adds an entirely new level of stress.
 
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Morning, folks..

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Happy Birthday, old man Slayven!
 
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I accept presents in the form of 20 dollars, and Kristin Kruek.


Thanks
 
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