Ether_Snake said:Plus, I hope there is only one villain in this movie, the Joker needs a whole movie to himself.
Anyway I didn't like Batman Begins (other than the character himself). I don't have high hopes for this one either:/
DIAF.
Ether_Snake said:Plus, I hope there is only one villain in this movie, the Joker needs a whole movie to himself.
Anyway I didn't like Batman Begins (other than the character himself). I don't have high hopes for this one either:/
Verboten said:I agree one thousand percent. Just imagine if they'd have let him get away with killing. (They kinda did in Return of the Joker). And J2 Cool, that unveiling seems more like something the Riddler would do.
Snaku said:
Joker got shot in the head on some issues back by a Batman impersonator and Joker escaped while still healing the cirgury and got that carved smile look.soundwave05 said:What's the story behind the Lee Bermejo Joker? Does he fall into a vat of acid, or is it make up? Also how does his smile become carved into his face?
You get to see Joker under the gas effect.SanjuroTsubaki said:Would love to see some villian on villian violence. Like Scarecrow trying his gas on Joker only to be mauled. I'm ready for this movie...have been for couple years now.
Because that would be silly. [/growling powerrangersvillain voice]woodchuck said:wait. why isn't it a bannable offense to insult Batman Begins
RBelong2Us said:Here's the rumors im hearing.
. Scarecrow is in the film at one point meets Joker and Scarecrow gets a taste of Joker under his own gas effect, supposedly this scene is totally fuked up.
. Something else im hearing is that Nolan and crew are building a abandoned carnival for a big showdown between Joker and Batman
Prime crotch said:You get to see Joker under the gas effect.
Verboten said:I didn't ever really like the look of a Joker with a fixed smile. Part of what makes people think the Joker is crazy is that he's genuinely smiling mad and some twisted inside joke that only he gets. A fixed smile seems like something an imposter of the Joker would have. It's not going to make me hate the movie, but it's just something I'm going to have to over look. People might think Alex Ross' designs might look silly if applied in the real world, but that's because these kinda costumes are generaly silly in real life. However, the Joker doesn't wear spandex so this wouldn't look bad at all:
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And while I don't think Harley should show up here, maybe a reference to Harleen Quinzel as a psychiatrist in Arkham would be enough.
karasu said:Since when do you only go into threads to post how much you love something? Is this Bizarro world or something? I've been reading this thread from the beginning, but I only felt compelled to post when I saw something that I disliked. My DMC avatar has as much to do with my posts as your white stripes avatar has to do with yours. But if you dislike Dante's look, I'm not gonna say you're wrong.
Ether_Snake said:That would have been great.
starchild excalibur said:It's not that you dislike the look of the joker, it's how you go about saying it. Surely you must have known that going into a thread such as this just to post "LAME!" was going to incite negative sentiment? Other people have raised disdain with elements of batman, but because they said it in a more mature way, they didn't get the same hostility you did.
My use of the white stripes avatar only extends as far as my enjoyment of the photo - not my enjoyment of the band (which i'm indifferent to), so take that for what you will.
BrandNew said:I just don't understand how anyone could dislike Begins. You may not be a fan of some of the things it does, but in no way can it be disliked.
Verboten said:I didn't ever really like the look of a Joker with a fixed smile... It's not going to make me hate the movie, but it's just something I'm going to have to over look.
Ether_Snake said:It's what happened with Spider Man 3 (Oh a meteor has fallen right next to me! Some guy can turn to sand! And they're attacking New York!).
RBelong2Us said:Here's the rumors im hearing.
. Scarecrow is in the film at one point meets Joker and Scarecrow gets a taste of Joker under his own gas effect, supposedly this scene is totally fuked up.
. Something else im hearing is that Nolan and crew are building a abandoned carnival for a big showdown between Joker and Batman
Prime crotch said:You get to see Joker under the gas effect.
jett said:What did I tell you, you shitheads.
BrandNew said:Err...how particularly wrong or disappointing was the way they did it in Begins? It's logical and it makes absolute SENSE: Ras hires Scarecrow, Scarecrow tests fear toxins on his patients from the shit Ras sends over, thus new villains are created from the mass at Arkham, most notably the Joker.
Verboten said:I agree one thousand percent. Just imagine if they'd have let him get away with killing.
Ether_Snake said:Plus, I hope there is only one villain in this movie, the Joker needs a whole movie to himself.
Everyone needs to see Mask of the Phantasm, now!soundwave05 said:One thing I think people need to do is let go of this idea of a "definitive Batman film" ... it's never going to happen.
uh..Joker as always been just a criminal before meeting up with Batman and go crazy. What did you want some kind of mystical bond betwen them?Ether_Snake said:As far as I know the Joker is going to be just some criminal, not related to the first movie in of itself. If he is an indirect product of Scarecrow/Ras then that's worst than I thought.
Anyway I was simply disappointed by the choice of villains. Then again they were not too over the top, so they might not overshadow the Joker.
I really hope the Joker kills Scarecrow early on and remains the only villain for the rest of the movie.
Oh and, and for those of you who want that please watch Batman: Dead End to get your sillies outPrime crotch said:uh..Joker as always been just a criminal before meeting up with Batman and go crazy. What did you want some kind of mystical bond betwen them?
It's a rumorKuroyume said:Scarecrow is in this movie? Is that a spoiler, or has that been known?
Just a diferent take on the character's crazy smile. Besides he's got a similar one now on the comics.Christopher said:I guess I'll stick with Batman: TAS as the identification in my mind of the villians, but why is his mouth ****ed up?
Christopher said:Man I just got my Batman: The Animated Series DVDs and they are sooooooooooo good. I really mean it too, I never liked series DVDs before and I just saw this thread and wtf is wrong with Joker.
I guess I'll stick with Batman: TAS as the identification in my mind of the villians, but why is his mouth ****ed up?
Don't you diss mr Allan Moore!jett said:We'll find out in the film, I suppose.
I certainly hope TDK avoids all the "LOLZ YOU CREATED ME!" bullshit from Burtman and The Killing Joke.
Prime crotch said:Don't you diss mr Allan Moore!
It's somewhere between rumor and known. One might say it's a known rumor. In any case it's very likely to happen. They let him off at the end of the first movie for a reason. And I think that reason isKuroyume said:Scarecrow is in this movie? Is that a spoiler, or has that been known?
Well Alan Moore can talk shit about himself if he wants he's crazy that way.Clevinger said:I think Alan Moore didn't like The Killing Joke either.
You then went and did Batman: the Killing Joke.Clevinger said:I think Alan Moore didn't like The Killing Joke either.
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Verboten said:To the people saying that the comic look of the Joker wouldn't fit in this guy's "universe," the Joker's not supposed to fit in the Batman mythos period. He's rarely serious, he smiles, he's funny, killing to him means nothing as long as there's a punchline, and he's obsessed with Batman. You look at him and you're not supposed to think he's horribly disfigured, but it's all in that smile and the intent behind it. All that shit just to say, he's not supposed to fit into Batman's world with the way he looks, but he does.
Verboten said:To the people saying that the comic look of the Joker wouldn't fit in this guy's "universe," the Joker's not supposed to fit in the Batman mythos period. He's rarely serious, he smiles, he's funny, killing to him means nothing as long as there's a punchline, and he's obsessed with Batman. You look at him and you're not supposed to think he's horribly disfigured, but it's all in that smile and the intent behind it. All that shit just to say, he's not supposed to fit into Batman's world with the way he looks, but he does.
WickedAngel said:Making the Joker look retarded, brightly dressed, and cheerful wouldn't make sense. These new Batman movies are supposed to be darker than ever before; this Joker fits that perfectly.
He can still be everything you mentioned above without looking like a Bozo spinoff.