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Here come the backlash

The BBFC has justified giving The Dark Knight a 12A certificate after getting more than 80 complaints about the Batman film's disturbing content.

The film regulator's spokeswoman Sue Clark said the sequel was a fantasy movie with only implied violence. But she admitted that the British Board of Film Classification had carefully considered giving it a 15 rating. The 12A rating states that a film should not "dwell on violence" and "does not emphasise injury or blood".

The film contains a scene in which The Joker, played by the late Heath Ledger, is beaten repeatedly by Batman in a police cell. The BBFC ruled that the blows were "masked from the camera" and there was "no sign of injury".

It conceded that there was a "good deal of violence" in the movie, but said it adhered to the rules of the 12A certificate.

But Keith Vaz MP, who chairs the Home Affairs Select Committee, said the 12A certificate was too low, adding that he was concerned by The Joker's use of a knife in the film. He told The Independent newspaper: "The BBFC should realise there are scenes of gratuitous violence in The Dark Knight to which I certainly would not take my 11-year-old daughter. It should be a 15 certificate."
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Cry babies.
 
gamergirly said:
What's amazing is how many people are going back to see the film a second and even third time JUST to see The Joker(HL) in action again. Like a 1 man movie :D
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Going for my fourth next week with a friend. And maybe again, with another friend.
 
I'm not on board the hype train of GAF (and the rest of the internet). I watched it last night, and while without a doubt it being the best superhero movie out there (but seriously, that's not saying a lot with abominations like X-men, Fantastic Four and Spiderman around), I didn't find the movie that amaaazing. The internet has corrupted my expectations.

There were quite a few things about the movie that really bothered me. Not the story, but the conversations and acting performances mostly.
 
Saw it a fourth time on IMAX.

Mmmm mmm good.
 
Finally saw it for the first time at IMAX (last time I tried it was sold out).

1) square > widescreen. Black bar haters redeemed.
2) I liked it
3) I was expecting a "in memory of..." at the end. Strange not to see it.
 
jamesinclair said:
Finally saw it for the first time at IMAX (last time I tried it was sold out).

1) square > widescreen. Black bar haters redeemed.
2) I liked it
3) I was expecting a "in memory of..." at the end. Strange not to see it.
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The "In Memory of" message came in a minute into the credits.
 
legend166 said:
It was posted earlier in the thread. But here it is again:

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I still don't want to believe!! Two-Face in the sequel just makes way too much sense!
 
For some reason, I watched Batman (hadn't seen it in around three years) and Batman Returns (hadn't seen it in probably ten or more years) over the weekend.

I still really like Batman. Aside from some very obvious corniness, it's a fairly dark film, Keaton was a solid Batman, and Nicholson's performance is still really, really good (nothing compared to Ledger, but he had some hilarious lines, and a great laugh). I still fucking love the "reveal" scene in the surgeon's office ("MIRROR!"), as well as the final scenes in Gotham Tower. Nicholson has one of my favorite deaths ever (the way he shatters the asphalt, the laughing... just so memorable), too, even though he was murdered by Batman and all.

Batman Returns, on the other hand... well, let's just say I remembered liking it a LOT more as a kid. It's just so fucking cheesy, and a little bit too "Burton-esque" (I felt like this quality was much more restrained in the original). Devito, Pfeiffer and Walken were all okay, but none of them really had a chance to stand out. The plot and screenplay are a goofy, awkward mess; I just couldn't wait for the movie to end. I do think it's aged a lot better than the first, even though it only came out three years later. That's pretty much the only compliment I have for it.

I can't believe I own that stupid anthology when only one of the films is (arguably) watchable. Just makes me appreciate BB and TDK so, so much more.
 
I bought:

Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever

after watching The Dark Knight.

I already have Batman & Robin (lol) and will eventually get Begins and TDK.
I just can't get enough Batman.:D

I agree the older films are nowhere near as good as Nolan's, they are fun to watch besides the cornyness.

Might get into some Batman comics and stuff.
 
Souldriver said:
I'm not on board the hype train of GAF (and the rest of the internet). I watched it last night, and while without a doubt it being the best superhero movie out there (but seriously, that's not saying a lot with abominations like X-men, Fantastic Four and Spiderman around), I didn't find the movie that amaaazing. The internet has corrupted my expectations.

There were quite a few things about the movie that really bothered me. Not the story, but the conversations and acting performances mostly.
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Yeah me too. It was a good movie but not that amazing as everybody was saying.

Heath Ledger was great though.
 
i' d say nicholson's joker suffered from his makeup. other than that i don't think ledger's performance was better.
it was the joker's character itself that was more intriguing and dark in tdk; he's too 'polished' and colourful in batman '89 and that fake smile and cheekbones really hurt J.N. acting; think of him in movies like Shining and you'll agree that hiding nicholson's features and authentic madman's smile behind a partial mask was a huge mistake.

this
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is a much scarier joker than

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eso76 said:
Is a much scarier joker than

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Everyone keeps hammering that image of how Nicholson Joker looked, but that shot doesn't really represent how he looked through the film;

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The part in the museum where Bassinger squirts Joker and his make-up runs when he turns around, kind of reminded me where Nolan and comapny went with Ledger's 'cracked' and uneven look.
 
master15 said:
Everyone keeps hammering that image of how Nicholson Joker looked, but that shot doesn't really represent how he looked through the film;
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true that, his make up does get better but he still has that...stuff deforming his face and smile, which nicholson certainly didn't need.
 
Greatness Gone said:
I saw it for the third time yesterday. The interrogation scene is in my top ten favorite movie scenes ever, now. Acting at its finest.
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YES. Everything about that scene is just brilliant. From the moment we hear "Evening... Commissioner," it's a nonstop barrage of wonderfulness.

I also have some twisted attachment to the fake Batman video scene. I could honestly watch it multiple times in a row and not get tired of it. Kinda makes me feel like a second-hand sadist: I'm not performing the torture, but I absolutely love watching it.
 
Masked Man said:
I also have some twisted attachment to the fake Batman video scene. I could honestly watch it multiple times in a row and not get tired of it. Kinda makes me feel like a second-hand sadist: I'm not performing the torture, but I absolutely love watching it.
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That's because Heath Ledger is fucking awesome in that scene. His vocal delivery is absolutely spectacular.
 
Mr. Durden said:
Only really disappointing thing in the movie was the ugly Katie Holmes replacement. I know Katie can't really act, but at least she looked good. Every time they said "gorgeous" or whatever in this movie, I was like "euhm wtf?"
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they re-casted Rachel so youd be happy with her death. my friend and i high five'd in the theatre
 
Fuck the haters! Really, fuck them up the ass. It's his representation of Batman and i like it that way. Batman needs to be different from Bruce Wayne and not alot of people are fooled by the looks (and the audience never is) but with a different voice and style, it's hard to see them both as the same person.

IN short, fuck the haters up in this bitch!
 
I really don't understand all the kerfuffle over Batman's voice... I've seen it three times and not once has it bothered me.

Actually the first time I saw it I felt it was a little forced at the end of the film, but after seeing it again I realise now that he is panting for breath because he's been stabbed, shot, mauled by dogs, beaten with a pole and fallen off a pier. I challenge anyway to try and talk in a gruff voice and enunciate after all of that.

Whatever, can't please all the people all of the time I guess.
 
Jasoco said:
An article in this mornings paper...



"Spawn of Clint Eastwood and a grizzly bear?" :lol :lol
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Saw the movie last night having not watched Batman Begins and thought the movie was excellent for various reasons already listed. I am ENTIRELY disappointed that they didn't make more out of Dent/Two Face. The hospital conversion was rushed, but the rest of the time Eckhart played the character brilliantly in both roles. Eckhart, Ledger, and Oldman absolutely shined in the movie, imo. Caine and Bale were fine; Gyllenhaal was a bit lackluster, but I thought her character didn't have a lot of presence the way she was written into the movie.

As for the Batman voice thing; sure it's jarring at first but any idiot who gives it all a second of thought should realize it makes sense. He's a goddamn masked hero with a secret identity; what's he supposed to do, walk around sounding like Wayne all the time?
 
Is anyone else wary of revealing the exact number of screenings to family, friends etc? Caught my fourth the other day but they were looking funny at me after the third, so now I just tell people "more than once!".
 
Oh! My Car! said:
Is anyone else wary of revealing the exact number of screenings to family, friends etc? Caught my fourth the other day but they were looking funny at me after the third, so now I just tell people "more than once!".
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Several of my friends have seen it more than twice. that NEVER happens.
 
Oh! My Car! said:
Is anyone else wary of revealing the exact number of screenings to family, friends etc? Caught my fourth the other day but they were looking funny at me after the third, so now I just tell people "more than once!".
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"Don't talk like one of them--you're not, even if you'd to be." :D

Really, though, no need to be a shame. I've already seen the best film of 2008 three times, and I'm planning on a fourth this weekend to help box office sales.
 
Masked Man said:
"Don't talk like one of them--you're not, even if you'd to be." :D

Really, though, no need to be a shame. I've already seen the best film of 2008 three times, and I'm planning on a fourth this weekend to help box office sales.
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Why would you see Space Chimps that many times?
 
The scene compositions and pacing in TDK are just so wildly foreign when compared to Begins. I mean the structure of the piece contributes to what makes TDK a "great movie". Each scene is just so rich and revelatory. I do find myself really loving Begins though. It's such a great blending of comic book movie and something more. The dialog is so communicative and larger than life. TDK is perhaps the better movie, but I don't know which one I like more. I wonder how much Goyer contributed to TDK and what elements of the script he worked on in Begins. They do feel like different movies.
 
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