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The Dark Knight SPOILER THREAD

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segarr said:
Thanks, much appreciated.

im pretty sure it is also in TDK soundtrack. i will listen and report back

edit: it shows up very briefly in "And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad" at around 1:05. im sure there are others as well
edit2: also the beginning of "Introduce a a Little Anarchy". its a pretty prominent sound throughout the soundtrack really

mrkgoo said:
Also, the Full-screen IMAX parts of the Blu-ray, I'm guessing (since I don't have it on Blu-ray) only go to 16:9, which is NOT IMAX. When I saw it on IMAX, it was practically a square ratio. It was TALL.

should they have put fucking black bars on the side of the screen then to show a "tall" picture? obviously they couldnt make it true IMAX, but nolan said that he just wanted to instill the feeling of awe as best as he could. a full screen picture was really the only choice, and is pretty damn good.
 
Blader5489 said:
Do you even understand the movie yet

Come on now, its a great comic movie, the best we've yet seen most likely, but its hardly incredibly deep or intellectual. PD might be generalizing a bit, but it seems a bit much to say he just doesn't get it.
 
I'm going to get a version with the boat scenes edited out. S'gone be sweet!

And don't worry, I already paid for the two-disc version. I paid £15 and there's still no option to watch the movie without the boat scenes.
 
Solo said:
Come on now, its a great comic movie, the best we've yet seen most likely, but its hardly incredibly deep or intellectual. PD might be generalizing a bit, but it seems a bit much to say he just doesn't get it.

I know it isn't incredibly deep, that's my point. Even though the movie pretty much has Gordon explain the themes of the movie at the end, PD doesn't get it. "Dent died for our sins" isn't the point of the ending, and doesn't even make sense in its own right.
 
Thats because your average comic book movie has the depth of the kiddie pool though. Which is fine, as not every one should strive for depth if there isnt any there to begin with in the source material.
 
Can we really call TDK that deep? I mean, it has lots of themes but they're all pretty much laid out on the surface of the movie.
I'll say this though, it's probably the most quoted movie I've ever seen so far, that has to count for something, right?
 
But it is a Batman movie. Therefore not more than a Batman movie. If Spider-Man was in it, I'd give you that. But he's not, is he?
 
Tyrone Slothrop said:
compared to, say, spiderman, or your average comic movie fare, TDK is pretty goddamn deep
Which shows how far we've come in such a short time.... in 2002, Spiderman was pretty deep compared to comic movies that had come before, in that it actually had a very human protagonist with real problems and emotional drama. Compare that to 90s Batman, where Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney's Bruce Wayne was barely a real character. "I'm rich and I wear a rubber bat-suit... oh and sometimes I pick up a chick or two!"
 
Blader5489 said:
I know it isn't incredibly deep, that's my point. Even though the movie pretty much has Gordon explain the themes of the movie at the end, PD doesn't get it. "Dent died for our sins" isn't the point of the ending, and doesn't even make sense in its own right.

"Dent died for our sins" is obviously an exaggeration of the eye rollingly dumb scene, you don't have to get butthurt over it. I'm not upset with the theme as much as the delivery, which is a problem throughout the movie
 
It's 2008's most important film. It will be the film the year is remembered for. For Heath Ledger's performance, and how iconic and quoted it is. As well as the scale of the film, it's unreal box office success, critical praise, and challenging subject matter aimed at mainstream. Not perfect, but one you can reinvest in and get a lot out of. A very good crime film. As well, it's directed by Christopher Nolan, who is gaining more of a following with every film. It will be looked at as one of his career defining films. And lastly, it's a great depiction of terrorism/anarchy on film. Something relevant that hasn't been tackled in this manner, on that stage, like TDK was.

For all of that, it's clearly the film that will be talked into the following years and upcoming decade. Not Benjamin Button, Gran Turino, or The Wrestler. All very good films, i've seen 2 out of the 3, but for how much we're getting out of them TDK is something else.
 
PhoenixDark said:
"Dent died for our sins" is obviously an exaggeration of the eye rollingly dumb scene, you don't have to get butthurt over it. I'm not upset with the theme as much as the delivery, which is a problem throughout the movie

Exaggeration or not, saying "Dent died for our sins" isn't even a remotely accurate interpretation of that scene. I'm not getting butthurt over it, I'm just laughing at how you're saying "oh, it's definitely a B film" when you failed to even understand the most explicit point of the film. If anyone "died for our sins" in the movie, it's Batman, not Dent.
 
fallengorn said:
I asked how Batman knows where Harvey Dent is in this scene. Hope they get him to answer.
I'm assuming this was referring to how Batman found Dent when he was going to shoot the Joker's thug after the attempt on the mayor's life? This was bothering me as well and then it just hit me out of nowhere.

Dent was on the phone with Rachel right before he starts in on the thug. I think the answer has to be that Batman had already built and was using the cell-phone spying device he used at the end of the movie, but maybe it was on a much smaller scale at this point.
 
i_am_not_jon_ames said:
I'm assuming this was referring to how Batman found Dent when he was going to shoot the Joker's thug after the attempt on the mayor's life? This was bothering me as well and then it just hit me out of nowhere.

Dent was on the phone with Rachel right before he starts in on the thug. I think the answer has to be that Batman had already built and was using the cell-phone spying device he used at the end of the movie, but maybe it was on a much smaller scale at this point.


They also showed Batman using the technology earlier int he movie in the scene where he is standing on top of the Sears Tower. You can overhear lots of people talking on their cell phones. I don't remember if that scene comes before or after the one where he tracks down Dent.
 
suaveric said:
They also showed Batman using the technology earlier int he movie in the scene where he is standing on top of the Sears Tower. You can overhear lots of people talking on their cell phones. I don't remember if that scene comes before or after the one where he tracks down Dent.

It's before.
 
Blader5489 said:
Exaggeration or not, saying "Dent died for our sins" isn't even a remotely accurate interpretation of that scene. I'm not getting butthurt over it, I'm just laughing at how you're saying "oh, it's definitely a B film" when you failed to even understand the most explicit point of the film. If anyone "died for our sins" in the movie, it's Batman, not Dent.

It's impossible not to "get" the film; Gordon lays it all out for the audience, as does Batman.

And I don't see how it's the "most important" film of 2008. The film's rabid popularity has a lot to do with Ledger's death; there would be no Oscar talk if he was alive
 
PhoenixDark said:
It's impossible not to "get" the film; Gordon lays it all out for the audience, as does Batman.

And I don't see how it's the "most important" film of 2008. The film's rabid popularity has a lot to do with Ledger's death; there would be no Oscar talk if he was alive


Meryl Streep got nominated for Mama Mia. Mama Mia was absolute shit. Oscar committee was stretching for nominees this year.
 
thread still chugging along wow :lol

http://www.indiewire.com/movies/2008/12/critics_poll_08.html

Heath tops the supp. actor category in the indiewire poll: a pretty good introduction to the fringe world of film and blogging freaks. village voice used to run the annual polls... so I suppose a number of those cineaste types had their secret shame. good for them... i enjoy a few of these critic participant's work. can't keep up with all of them.

and those are the globes hamburgulary! where all the cool fun performances can squeeze into the more open categories.
 
I can't believe the backlash TDK is getting. Why didn't this happen to Batman Begins? BB is a pretty mediocre film to begin with; TDK is far beyond it. Still, I do think the hype TDK gets is a little too insane.
 
KeeSomething said:
I can't believe the backlash TDK is getting. Why didn't this happen to Batman Begins? BB is a pretty mediocre film to begin with; TDK is far beyond it. Still, I do think the hype TDK gets is a little too insane.

Backlash? I only see one retard complaining.
 
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/See-Philip-Seymour-Hoffman-As-Penguin-11378.html

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Not really, but a cool looking fake. If the character is done in the Nolanverse that is how I would like him to look more or less.

However if Nolan doesn't cast Bob Hoskins in the next film I WILL BOYCOTT!
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/See-Philip-Seymour-Hoffman-As-Penguin-11378.html

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Not really, but a cool looking fake. If the character is done in the Nolanverse that is how I would like him to look more or less.

However if Nolan doesn't cast Bob Hoskins in the next film I WILL BOYCOTT!

i'd rather the penguin had hair. this makes him look like mr. freeze. wouldn't a nice, slicked back hair cut with a really prominent widow's peak make it look more like a penguin?
 
Blader5489 said:
Exactly. That's what makes your inability to "get" the movie all the sadder.

:lol stop

on a side note, "and i thought my jokes were bad" from the OST is great. has like all the best parts of other songs into one.
 
suaveric said:
i'd rather the penguin had hair. this makes him look like mr. freeze. wouldn't a nice, slicked back hair cut with a really prominent widow's peak make it look more like a penguin?
It could go either way. Hoffman I would prefer to have some hair and not be as pale as the photo.

However...

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Perfection.
 
KeeSomething said:
Why didn't this happen to Batman Begins?

It did. It took a bit longer than it has for TDK, but it definitely happened. Hell, it happens for all high profile movies sooner or later, for whatever reasons, be they valid or not.
 
I recently rewatched the movie and....you know what?

It's still just as amazing. One of the greatest films I have ever seen and in my mind, it is a flawless movie.
 
Pedobear said:
I recently rewatched the movie and....you know what?

It's still just as amazing. One of the greatest films I have ever seen and in my mind, it is a flawless movie.
I have seen it 3 times now and I liked it even more upon repeated viewings. Almost too much going on for one movie.
 
It's not that I think that it's a perfect film; it's not, it has its faults, as does any movie. It's that, for me, there's nothing notable enough that I would knock any points off of the movie if I were rating it.
 
Limited Edition soundtrack impressions: adds very little to the original release, just as I figured. It does have the music for Gordon's end speech in "A Watchful Guardian", which is what most people wanted. :P But the rest are just rethreads and rearrangements of stuff that was already in the regular soundtrack. Not really worth it. I'm not even comment on the useless electronica remixes.
 
jett said:
Limited Edition soundtrack impressions: adds very little to the original release, just as I figured. It does have the music for Gordon's end speech in "A Watchful Guardian", which is what most people wanted. :P But the rest are just rethreads and rearrangements of stuff that was already in the regular soundtrack. Not really worth it. I'm not even comment on the useless electronica remixes.

I actually liked the "Rory's First Kiss" track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paa9DxOEePA

They're all up if anyone wants to listen.
 
From imdb:

Dark Knight Is Now A Dark Horse

6 January 2009 1:31 AM, PST

The Dark Knight, the most successful movie at the box office in 2008, may have been passed over by virtually all the critics groups for best film, but it did receive recognition from a group that really counts -- the Producers Guild of America. The PGA announced that Knight was one of five films nominated for its top award, the Darryl F. Zanuck Producer of the Year Award in Theatrical Motion Pictures, due to be presented on Jan. 24. The others are The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Frost/Nixon, Milk, and Slumdog Millionaire. The Guild's nominees often mirror those chosen by Oscar voters, and the winner usually takes the best-film Oscar.

Aw snap, could it still happen?
 
jett said:
From imdb:



Aw snap, could it still happen?
I never doubted it would happen. I'm not saying it will dominate the nominated categories, it will be nominated for more than the technical and supporting actor.

GLOLden GLOLbes.
 
Watching this again at work on my iphone and during the big rig scene after batman falls off the batpod, when the joker leans over him with a knife to the throat do you think he would have killed batman if Gordon hadn't jumped in?

Also, it seems that the last item placed on the table when the police are looking at Jokers knives is that a potatoe peeler? Why would he have that?
 
Solideliquid said:
Watching this again at work on my iphone and during the big rig scene after batman falls off the batpod, when the joker leans over him with a knife to the throat do you think he would have killed batman if Gordon hadn't jumped in?

Also, it seems that the last item placed on the table when the police are looking at Jokers knives is that a potatoe peeler? Why would he have that?

Chris Nolan talked about the peeler in the live chat he did the other week. He said he shuddered to think just what the Joker would have done with that.
 
Solideliquid said:
Watching this again at work on my iphone and during the big rig scene after batman falls off the batpod, when the joker leans over him with a knife to the throat do you think he would have killed batman if Gordon hadn't jumped in?

Also, it seems that the last item placed on the table when the police are looking at Jokers knives is that a potatoe peeler? Why would he have that?


At that point in the movie, isn't that when he just wants to see who Batman is, rather than kill him?


As for the peeler... If a knife is more personal than a gun, a peeler is pretty much as personal as you're gonna get.
 
suaveric said:
Chris Nolan talked about the peeler in the live chat he did the other week. He said he shuddered to think just what the Joker would have done with that.

Couldn't he be more specific? He directed and helped to write the damn thing.
 
Mr. Sam said:
Still not safe to start a depreciation thread, even after the DVD and Blu-Ray release? Damn.

Aren't those for movies that lost their shine after a while and you realized it wasn't that great? How could such a thing exist for a movie such as this?
 
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