The definitive RPG!

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Do The Mario

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The second and foruth highest scoring RPG games on Gamerankings

the same delvoper has the first and third title!

2 games

2 expansion packs

600+ hours of gameplay


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if you are an RPG fan go buy these games!

I am sickened by the fact some RPG gamers haven’t played these sensational titles

Baldurs Gate
Baldurs Gate TOTSC

Baldurs Gate 2
Baldurs Gate 2:TOB


yes i am a bioware whore!
 
Do The Mario said:
Stop posting shit and play baldurs gate
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But if you knew anything about RPGs you wouldn't be calling Wasteland "shit," so I can't really trust your recommendations.
 
I bought that baldur's gate 2 pack, installed it, played about 5 minutes, and shut it off never to try again. Haha, maybe I'll find it and give it a second chance....
 
AstroLad said:
But if you knew anything about RPGs you wouldn't be calling Wasteland "shit," so I can't really trust your recommendations.
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Blasphemy posting that filth in this baldur’s gate thread!

Seriously have you finished all the BG titles?
 
Do The Mario said:
Blasphemy posting that filth in this baldur’s gate thread!

Seriously have you finished all the BG titles?
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Nope, I got the demo but I haven't had the time for PC RPGs in a while. The last one I played to completion was Ultima 7. Wasteland is w/o a doubt the best game, forget RPG, ever. Ultima 7 a close second.

I would try them if I had the time. Same w/ Fallout.
 
AstroLad said:
Nope, I got the demo but I haven't had the time for PC RPGs in a while. The last one I played to completion was Ultima 7.
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Bioware >>>> All console RPG game makers

1. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
XBOX LucasArts
86 9.0 94.0% 94.9%
2. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
PC Interplay
32 8.9 93.8% 94.7%
3. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
PC LucasArts
43 8.8 93.3% 93.6%
4. Baldur's Gate
PC Interplay
18 8.7 91.6% 93.6%


God I love gamerankings!

Stop posting and go buy BG & BG2
 
MrAngryFace said:
Planescape Torment = Better RPG. Black Isle > Bioware.
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Not if we use gamerankings :)

Plus if blackisle are so good why the fuck did close down?


P.S i know they are making KOTOR 2 and i love PST and IWD
 
Black Isle got screwed during that whole Interplay debacle I believe.

And fuck gamerankings. If you use gamerankings to build your collection youve got a damned problem.
 
You like better than FVII? materia system >junctioning system!
I thought kotor was crap, i had like no fun with it at all, played for like an hour, it was so bad. If where talking of best rpg ever, Tales of Phantasia- snes for me, loved it!
 
Do The Mario said:
You haven’t even played Baldurs gate!

Therefore you know fucknothing about RPG’s and I know Fuckall!
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At least I don't need Gamerankings to tell me a game is good.
 
Do The Mario said:
Dude I was ripping into myself read it again
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Haha OK, I'll take your word for it.

Either way, I was just joking around; it's obvious there's no real argument to be had as to what the best RPG ever is, when it's so clearly, objectively, Wasteland.

:p
 
Most people in this thread haven’t even played these titles, so if you liked KOTOR you would love the BG titles. It’s the same thing but in 2D with a much more expansive game world.
 
I haven't played wasteland since it was before my time but I don't really like BG that much. It arguably is the "definitive" RPG and that's precisely why I don't like it - it's everything stereotypical of western fantasy. plus the infinity engine just fucking blows if you ask me. but that's after playing the fallout games, where the controls feel the same, but I felt fallout's engine had more tactical value to the fights by its whole APs/turn based system rather than the real-time combat of the infinity engine (which isn't really real-time combat, but you know).

maybe my mind will change on infinity engine combat soon, though, since I'll be getting icewind dale soon along with NOLF (it was part of this package deal that was the same price as just NOLF).
 
firex said:
I haven't played wasteland since it was before my time but I don't really like BG that much. It arguably is the "definitive" RPG and that's precisely why I don't like it - it's everything stereotypical of western fantasy. plus the infinity engine just fucking blows if you ask me. but that's after playing the fallout games, where the controls feel the same, but I felt fallout's engine had more tactical value to the fights by its whole APs/turn based system rather than the real-time combat of the infinity engine (which isn't really real-time combat, but you know).

maybe my mind will change on infinity engine combat soon, though, since I'll be getting icewind dale soon along with NOLF (it was part of this package deal that was the same price as just NOLF).
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Which icewind dale game? If it’s the first title make sure to install the expansion pack before you start to bump up the resolution.
 
firex said:
it's just the first one. i don't even know if it has an expansion included with it, i doubt it...
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If you get the expansion you download a free dungeon, however with interplay folding I am not sure were you will download it from.

It’s a great dungeon with some good riddles in it!
 
I really really tried to like Baldur's Gate. On paper it should have been perfect for me, an ex pen & paper roleplayer and current digital RPG nut, but after about 7 hours I just couldn't take anymore of the "gameplay" on display, and I have no intention of returning to the series.
 
I played BG1 for about five hours and gave up on it. Mostly because I got tired of switching discs 80,000 times a session. Maybe I could make a bunch of disk images and load them all up on my Mac at once, or something like that.

The gameplay, even compared to other western RPGs, is super slow. And the writing is terrible.

As far as "definitive" RPGs, The Bard's Tale needs to be mentioned in this thread (the original, not the remake). I like Fallout as much as the next guy, but if an RPG did not require you to make your own maps on quadrille paper, it is not definitive. (I remember when I saw the first RPG with "automapping" as an advertised feature and thought, "Who wants to be babysat like that? The fun of the game is in making the map yourself!")
 
Dragon Wars kicked ass. Having to bust out of that city with several different ways of going about it was great, although I was never able finish the game. I'd always get to a point where the party was invading another castle and just couldn't do it, no matter how many times I tried.

Wasteland was amazing! Everything from going to Vegas to getting your first RPG and fighting the robots. Plus near the end when suddenly you have melee weapons haha. Great stuff.:) PLASMA AXE FOR LYFE
 
MrAngryFace said:
Planescape Torment = Better RPG. Black Isle > Bioware.
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iawtp.

baldur's gate 2 still rocks, though.
i started playing it for the first time a few months ago. still haven't managed to beat the last chapter..
 
Baldur's Gate got so damn old after the first 100 hours. Bioware were fucking retarded for making those games so grossly long.
 
MrAngryFace said:
Planescape Torment = Better RPG. Black Isle > Bioware.
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This man speaks the truth. Gamerankings is wrong.

Do The Mario said:
Most people in this thread haven’t even played these titles, so if you liked KOTOR you would love the BG titles. It’s the same thing but in 2D with a much more expansive game world.
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I disagree. In a lot of ways, KOTOR > BG. The combat is less intrusive into the game, and the whole thing flows a lot better. The story in BG is better, but as an experience to be enjoyed, I found KOTOR better. The same was true to a lesser extent with Torment, but the story and characters were so much better that it gets the edge.
 
The thing that put me off Baldur's Gate (the first one) on my first play through was I didn't know how to handle the combat. A few months ago I picked the game up again for the first time and started playing it again, making a point to try different ways of handling the combat to make it less painful. I'm horrible at the pseudo turn-based system it uses that is pretty damn chaotic and unweildy IMO. However, I found a playstyle that works for me and once the problems with combat are out of the way the game becomes fairly simple.

Actually, once the combat is out of the way I fail to see how it is hugely different from Japanese RPG's aside from their being more sidequests available that you have a choice in doing and being able to more directly affect your party makeup (which made no difference to me, I kept all the "default" people, my PC, Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc and Dinaher), and the possibility of doing quests "out of sequence" so that occasionally the dialogue makes little sense. The actual story itself is fairly linear, it just lacks the big, bombastic, drama filled boss encounters that you'd find in Final Fantasy for example. By the end of the game my biggest gripe was the 640x480 resolution, which is rather hard to take on a 21" monitor. I have BG2, but have yet to play it, and with the resolution thing fixed in that installment hopefully it doesn't grate as much near the end.
 
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