I hope so. I'd really like to be able to double-bind Sprint and Enter Cover, Gears of War style.
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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again
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I hope so. I'd really like to be able to double-bind Sprint and Enter Cover, Gears of War style.
WonderCheese
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I strongly suspect that if they had any great end game content (8 person missions, something resembling raids) they'd be screaming about it from the high heavens. It's not like they're going to wait until 2 weeks out from release and suddenly surprise us all with this awesome end game plan they've been keeping secret.
I think that the big disappointment many should be prepared for is that the "end game" is this: you replay story missions on harder difficulty, and repeat "side quests" out in the world, trying to upgrade your base so you have access to better perks, talents, etc... Then you go to the Dark Zone and try to get better loot. That's it. For some, I guess that'll be enough. But it's always great for all that build up to be leading to something...something like a raid that is difficult and new and worth building up and gearing up for. Maybe via DLC.
With all the lip service the developers have given to how important good end game content is, it would be disappointing if my suspicions are true, but again, the only reason I can imagine for the current silence around something unique for the end game is that there's nothing for them to talk about. I hope I'm wrong.
I think that the big disappointment many should be prepared for is that the "end game" is this: you replay story missions on harder difficulty, and repeat "side quests" out in the world, trying to upgrade your base so you have access to better perks, talents, etc... Then you go to the Dark Zone and try to get better loot. That's it. For some, I guess that'll be enough. But it's always great for all that build up to be leading to something...something like a raid that is difficult and new and worth building up and gearing up for. Maybe via DLC.
With all the lip service the developers have given to how important good end game content is, it would be disappointing if my suspicions are true, but again, the only reason I can imagine for the current silence around something unique for the end game is that there's nothing for them to talk about. I hope I'm wrong.
after about a day playing the beta I'm definitely leaning towards buying the game...unlike the Titanfall and SW: Battlefront betas which were really fun but ultimately I knew I would not be buying the game...The Division (PC) has a few things going for it that those didn't- mainly a single player story, huge map, and possible staying power where I don't see myself getting bored after a few days or weeks
Don Draper's Hat
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Let me get this straight. When I'm in the Dark Zone and someone starts shooting at me for no apparent reason, and I retaliate and kill them, I become a Rogue and have a target on my head?
That's fucking bullshit.
That's fucking bullshit.
It depends. If they land a shot on you then no, but if they didn't actually hit you first, then yes.
There's a damage threshold. Whoever does X amount of damage 'first' becomes the Rogue. If someone hits you with 3 bullets, and then you unload 20 into them, you'll go "rogue" instead. It's sort of a safety to prevent accidental friendly fire from turning you rogue by mistake.
At least, that's my understanding. Basically, make sure they've gone rogue "first", then murder.
Collateral22
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You shouldnt have. If they do damage to you they become rogue, and you don't become rogue for killing other rogues, you get a reward.
I can think of zero reasons why they wouldn't be talking about endgame stuff aside from hard-mode missions.
Interestingly, I haven't seen anything on crafting and you would think with like 36 different crafting materials, there would be some kind of video about it!
I feel like there is a LOT they either haven't talked about or haven't finished yet.
Yes- and players will bait you too by firing to their rogue threshold to get you to shoot back instinctively and making you become full rogue.
There is a cool down that removes your rogue status if you can survive that long.
It's tough being solo in DZ.
I still don't quite understand why an RPG needs "endgame content".
Witcher 3 doesn't have endgame content. Dragon Age doesn't have endgame content.
You play through these games and then you either decide if you "want to keep playing for loot" or "stop playing till new content comes out.
This isn't an MMO. You are not paying a sub.
I don't get it.
It's the same thing people do with Destiny and I just...don't get it.
Witcher 3 doesn't have endgame content. Dragon Age doesn't have endgame content.
You play through these games and then you either decide if you "want to keep playing for loot" or "stop playing till new content comes out.
This isn't an MMO. You are not paying a sub.
I don't get it.
It's the same thing people do with Destiny and I just...don't get it.
I'm kinda fine with that being what it is for now. I don't normally play these types of games, but there's a lot here for me. If what you're looking for comes in later dlc, I wouldn't mind. I'm probably in the minority in that, though.
Nameless
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After a couple of uneventful romps through the DZ I was finally attacked by another solo player who I managed to kill. Later however, my extraction point was ambushed by a squad of rogues right as the chopper arrived. I managed to dump my loot a nanosecond before dying but the other randos there weren't so lucky.
Moments like that are cool in the beta, but I can see constantly getting ganked at extraction becoming old pretty quickly when you're actually building your character.
Moments like that are cool in the beta, but I can see constantly getting ganked at extraction becoming old pretty quickly when you're actually building your character.
We have seen videos showing us exactly how the crafting and everything works.
Because players want to be challenged. Endgame content is an important aspect of any RPG, MMO or otherwise.
When people say "endgame content" they don't mean "challenging content" they mean "what will give me the best loot and can i play it for weeks and weeks without it being repetitive" and that's just....that's a pretty strong demand right there.
JetSetRadio
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I got to the base yesterday (I hope it saved). How do I get to the darkzone tonight? Seems like the only place where I could have some delicious oldskool fun.
If you use cover properly, you can forgive Ubi for not including an option to crouch. Waypoetic, BrotherShanko and I were in the DZ earlier, just slowly making our way through the streets by diving behind cars, fences, barriers, etc. Coupled with the ability to 'cloak' yourself, you can become practically invisible if you use the cover correctly.
You know what was super cool?
My friend was inside the DZ. I was inside the DZ safehouse as I log in.
I join my friends group. In the bottom left it says "transitioning to new phase". I am still walking around and shopping and such. Then it says "phase transition complete" and I step outside into the DZ and there is my friend.
So I joined my friends DZ instance without ever having a loading screen.
Very very cool.
The only reason you have a loading screen when you join a friends group,is because it fast travels you to them.
Yeah thats really great. Was playing in the Darkzone last night with 2 other guys. Then a third one joined but that created that the server went over a 24 limit players. When we where still walking arround it switched servers to a one where there was room for 4 players without any loading.
The devs have constantly talked about how important their end game content is, so I don't think it's a 'strong demand' to expect something substantial. Hopefully they deliver.
Like,you can think whatever you want about the actual game, but Massive pulled off a seamless world/server transition perfectly.
This is what Bungie said Destiny would be and failed at.
The last thing I heard from the devs regarding endgame was a dev on the official stream saying "we have a lot more endgame content to show you guys, which we will do closer to release. The dark zone is not the be all, end all."
MythicReclaimer
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While I like to go solo a lot in many different games, there is at least an option for matchmaking in all game modes at any time in The Division.
Go to map, go to "Matchmaking" tab, it will then give you an option of I think...
Missions, Exploration, and Dark Zone
...there, people to play with who will at least somewhat play like a team.
I just watched this video, guy seems to know what he is talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTsWiFJZB6M
[citation needed]
Yeah always annoyed me in Destiny. I remember in the first weeks i was doing a story mission. Came across a other player who was also activating something for the story. So that guy waved and sent me a game invite. Cool i will join. What does the game? Puts me back in Orbit and starts loading the mission again so i get in his fireteam. While i am already standing next to the guy in the gameworld in the same freaking server.
cantthink9
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Is it possible to have fun playing this game solo? My friends barely play games and the ones who do have different work hours than me. I'm gonna get the game regardless I was able to have fun on Destiny and even raid once in a while with the lfg website, hoping I can get away with the same stuff in the division
Xamtheking
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You can matchmake with randoms
WonkyPanda
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As much as i am loving the game, that is one of my bigger fears. Being grounded in reality means there may not be a lot of enemy variety in the world. Secondly, although not as bad, the locales may get very similar over time. Its all dystopian wasteland, unlike borderlands where you can go from desert to icy mountains to volcanic terrain
BUT, i am still day one for this game. Having an absolute blast.
One of the mods on the forum said definitely no zombies.
That could be a ruse though.
well,you can always matchmake for literally everything in the game. free roam, dark zone, missions, you can matchmake whenever you want
I play most co-op games solo and I've enjoyed The Division a lot.
They ease of matchmaking with randoms is a bonus and I'll give that a try now and again.
WonkyPanda
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Go in a damn group.
Yeah, matchmake or find people in the social spaces who you can chat to via voice or text (on PC).
The social options of this game are everything people have been shouting for in Destiny.
Man, the dark zone is really, really fun sometimes.
I was chasing down a group of rogues with a couple of randoms, and one of the rogues got taken down dropping 5 blues. I was able to snag them without the other randoms noticing, and started making my way back to an extraction area.
Just before I got to the extraction area, I see an entire squad light up as rogues. I quickly doubled back and took cover inside a phone booth so that they would not see me. Cue adrenaline as I sit there and wait for the group to pass without noticing me. The only way the moment could've gotten better was if I was in a cardboard box.
The group eventually passes and I make it to the extraction area. I call in the extraction, at which point I learn that NPCs spawn when you call in the extractions! I managed to take them out after barely getting a heal off to keep myself alive, and got in position for the chopper.
When the chopper dropped the rope, it was like a damn flash mob. There were 5 or 6 other player characters there, and in my mind I'm screaming GET THE FUCK UP THE ROPE!
Extraction successful. I captured the video and uploaded to youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5uvCpEYx-o, but I'm not really sure the suspense of the moment comes across.
Yeah, I am going to be buying this game.
I was chasing down a group of rogues with a couple of randoms, and one of the rogues got taken down dropping 5 blues. I was able to snag them without the other randoms noticing, and started making my way back to an extraction area.
Just before I got to the extraction area, I see an entire squad light up as rogues. I quickly doubled back and took cover inside a phone booth so that they would not see me. Cue adrenaline as I sit there and wait for the group to pass without noticing me. The only way the moment could've gotten better was if I was in a cardboard box.
The group eventually passes and I make it to the extraction area. I call in the extraction, at which point I learn that NPCs spawn when you call in the extractions! I managed to take them out after barely getting a heal off to keep myself alive, and got in position for the chopper.
When the chopper dropped the rope, it was like a damn flash mob. There were 5 or 6 other player characters there, and in my mind I'm screaming GET THE FUCK UP THE ROPE!
Extraction successful. I captured the video and uploaded to youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5uvCpEYx-o, but I'm not really sure the suspense of the moment comes across.
Yeah, I am going to be buying this game.
Played a bit more in the DZ. Came across some very "helpful" groups. First group we came across were extracting. It was just two or so we thought. We help out with extraction (it was 3 of us at the time) and once extraction was complete, we stuck around for a bit. Big mistake. The group of two was really a group of four. We were quickly gunned down.
After reviving and a few explicits from myself and math, we go and just roam around for a bit. Came across another group, this one of two for real this time. We helped them out with some enemies and next thing we know, all five of us end up being mowed down by the previous group of four.
Our third drops so it's just math and I just going about. After dying twice at an extraction zone and twice to that same group, I made sure to avoid any players nearby. After getting some crappy loot, math leads us away from the hot extraction zone and towards a different. Another group of four was there. When the helicopter came, I ran the fuck out of there. I told math I ain't trusting no one this time around. She stay behind for a bit and just as I predicted, the group turned on us. I felt bad for leaving math behind. Three stay behind to fight her while one ran after me. I managed to escape him and set off for a different extraction zone since I still had my stuff. After regrouping with math, we went and called in an extraction. A group of two stopped by once the copter came. They hooked up their stuff after we did ours. Math and I quickly ran the fuck out of dodge. We would return to that same zone later after getting some decent loot. While we waited for the copter to show up, I noticed rogue players were nearby. Thank god they were busy facing another group and there was a blizzard going on.
Shit was tense. Kept looking around, making sure no other group were nearby while keeping an eye on the rogues.
DZ is pretty fun. Though not sure if I like it enough to buy the game day 1. Only problem I have with DZ is the rogue system. I shouldn't be labelled a rogue for defending myself from a player who attacked me first. Though I'm sure that will be fixed for the full game.
After reviving and a few explicits from myself and math, we go and just roam around for a bit. Came across another group, this one of two for real this time. We helped them out with some enemies and next thing we know, all five of us end up being mowed down by the previous group of four.
Our third drops so it's just math and I just going about. After dying twice at an extraction zone and twice to that same group, I made sure to avoid any players nearby. After getting some crappy loot, math leads us away from the hot extraction zone and towards a different. Another group of four was there. When the helicopter came, I ran the fuck out of there. I told math I ain't trusting no one this time around. She stay behind for a bit and just as I predicted, the group turned on us. I felt bad for leaving math behind. Three stay behind to fight her while one ran after me. I managed to escape him and set off for a different extraction zone since I still had my stuff. After regrouping with math, we went and called in an extraction. A group of two stopped by once the copter came. They hooked up their stuff after we did ours. Math and I quickly ran the fuck out of dodge. We would return to that same zone later after getting some decent loot. While we waited for the copter to show up, I noticed rogue players were nearby. Thank god they were busy facing another group and there was a blizzard going on.
Shit was tense. Kept looking around, making sure no other group were nearby while keeping an eye on the rogues.
DZ is pretty fun. Though not sure if I like it enough to buy the game day 1. Only problem I have with DZ is the rogue system. I shouldn't be labelled a rogue for defending myself from a player who attacked me first. Though I'm sure that will be fixed for the full game.
Norwegian_Imposter
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So if I'm in a group of friends I can't team kill them can I? I tried that last night and it wouldn't let me do it in the dark zone. If that's true that's a real missed opportunity.
KINGofCRA5H
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Hey man my group met your group yesterday in the DZ on PS4 I don't know if you remember, had the same name as you. We had a nice little skirmish.
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