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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again
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That would just mean that players would exploit it by playing solo running together with other solo players, but without using the in-game group system.
Yes- not a ton but yes each time. Sucks for solo DZ players.
Was close to the DZ SCAR last pm but killed x4 by roving rogue groups before I could team up with anyone. Called it a night.
That would ruin the game. The griefing should slow down once the game launches and their is actually something to do in the game. But the dz is meant for a more squad focus gameplay
I think it will be about half the size of vanilla destiny. Can't wait to see if it gets the same criticism.
1) how come I always seem to be running around the Dark Zone area for awhile without running into a single player or NPC?...I thought the place would be filled with tons of players and NPC's?...2) is the only way to make $$ by selling your junk and other weapons, gear etc?...I'm up to Level 7 and barely have any $$ in my wallet...I thought the bodies, chests, areas I looted around the map would have plenty of $$
There are 24 players including you in the zone. The NPCs spawn rate is too low to be of any use with no rouge groups going around messing it all up
The best way to make DZ$ is by killing rogue agents, named enemies and opening chests.
MaKTaiL
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Get to level 8 and enter the Dark Zone again. You will get into a different instance for it with lots of enemies to kill.
packy34
Member
It would be very, very hard to be half the size of vanilla destiny. There are a lot more things to do in this beta than there were in the destiny beta. Not sure where this attitude is coming from.
SJRB
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I don't understand the recurring urge to drag Destiny into these kinds of discussions. They're nothing alike.
bananafactory
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Anyone on PC want to group up for Dark Zone? I'm about to enter it for the first time and don't wanna go alone
It doesn't change other than mobs get tankier. It's certainly not a drastic change as his post might suggest.
The size of the world is pretty small and there really isn't that much to do even if you factor in all the missing stuff. Brace yourself.
They both are these shooter rpg mmo hybrids. Its pretty natural to compare two games that are alot more similar than people want to admit
Lavalamp1138
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Craziest thing to happen so far. Was rolling with two friends and prepping to start an extraction when some others show up. I got too paranoid and blasted one in the face with my sniper. We went rogue and went on the run. One thing lead to another and we reached manhunt status. One of my friends went down and I high tailed it to the underground subway. Got separated from my other friend while sprinting through the labrynth of dark tunnels and found a corner to hide in. 8 players followed us down and took my friend out. Somehow these players started turning on each other and I slipped out during the chaos. Booked it up to the surface and down the first street I saw. Found myself alone in Koreatown at night with the snowfall obscuring visibility. Hopped onto a guard tower and hid there, eyes jumping between the timer and the streets as I kept putting out pulses. I survived.
Art Vandilay
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It was fun for a bit but I'm not sure this game is for me. DZ reminds me of GTA Online, which is something I don't particularly care for. I like the mechanics although I was highly skeptical of the cover based shooter aspect. I just don't think I want to bother getting a group together every time I play this game. I know I could play solo, but it gets boring too quickly. Cancelled my pre-order.
ScatheZombie
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And...
The items drop with a base level of 8 instead of levels 5-8, because all the mobs are level 8 or 9, instead of 5-8.
The vendors all have new items, many of which are purple quality, which isn't available in the 1-7 zone.
You definitely want to be in the level 8 DZ if possible.
I agree, but i think people miss that the surface map isn't the only part of the game. There is the subway, sewers and a ton of verticality
Quick thoughts about the darkzone
There was a team that was just camping at the entrance that was kind of annoying, there's not really a way to enter from the tented area w/o being in a choke-point. I had run up two blocks and jump the fence. It would be nice if there was a building to run through or something gave you options.
Shooting at agents who shot at you should not make you rouge. There were a few times agents shot at me and missed/hit cover and me being marked rouge when I return fire and hit them. I'm not sure how you could fix that problem.
Regardless, It's a fun game that I'm sure I'll be buying when it comes out.
There was a team that was just camping at the entrance that was kind of annoying, there's not really a way to enter from the tented area w/o being in a choke-point. I had run up two blocks and jump the fence. It would be nice if there was a building to run through or something gave you options.
Shooting at agents who shot at you should not make you rouge. There were a few times agents shot at me and missed/hit cover and me being marked rouge when I return fire and hit them. I'm not sure how you could fix that problem.
Regardless, It's a fun game that I'm sure I'll be buying when it comes out.
Completely agree with you and I have also cancelled mine. This just isn't for me, its really quite bland in terms of gameplay and the shooting is lackluster at best.
Also tons of enterable buildings
Tr1Cky_Tr33
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Don't know if it's just because of the beta but the DZ is just a waste of time now. Unless you are in a group of 4 it's just every extraction zone being camped out by people. If that happens in the final game it'll kill it in no time
DryvBy
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We were just trying to find some loot. These guys thought they could take us on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSxiu4WMRI0
I doubt it. None of this is new and unheard of. A lot of MMOs used to have hardcore PvP mechanics in them. Shadowbane had a crazy system for PvP that just allowed you to pick-pocket or kill anyone, anytime, while stealing everything someone owned. It did fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSxiu4WMRI0
I doubt it. None of this is new and unheard of. A lot of MMOs used to have hardcore PvP mechanics in them. Shadowbane had a crazy system for PvP that just allowed you to pick-pocket or kill anyone, anytime, while stealing everything someone owned. It did fine.
Shit that will make me nervous.
PleaseBeGentle_
Member
Its 24 players for entire dark zone. And many more extraction points in full game so unlikely they will all be camped by other players
Don't you think that the blandness that you feel is a result of most of the skills and ALL of the talents and perks being unavailable in the beta? The talents and perks inventory screens show that there's a LOT of possible variety, but who knows because we can't read the details of the talents or perks.
ScatheZombie
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So, I've pretty much 'beaten' the beta in a day of play.
It looks like your level is capped at 8. I've had a full bar of XP for awhile now and it's not ticking over - which is a shame since I saw a level 11 req piece of gear on one of the vendors.
It looks like your DZ rank is capped at 12. I mean, I've purchased just about every available max-rank item in the DZ and still have 10k DZ credits, so I probably should have ticked over to 13 at some point.
There's nowhere near enough solo-content, even for a beta. You can plow through all the missions and encounters in the solo zone in a couple of hours. That should put you up to level 7 or so. After that, you have to run the hospital mission on Hard over and over to get any meaningful XP - since you get nothing in the DZ. You get a decent piece of loot at the end, but it's far easier to get stuff in the DZ (both from vendors and NPCs).
The DZ is amazing... but. But the most efficient way to make progress is to be the biggest possible asshole. Our team quickly figured out that you get very little DZ credit from being Rogue, unless you successfully run out your timer - and even then, it's not as efficient. The best way to make DZ credit is to kill Rogues yourself. And the best way to get items to camp the extraction points. So, we ultimately settled into a scenario where a group of agents would come to the extraction loaded with items, we would jump them with about 30 seconds or so on the timer, kill them, take their items, load up and run away. Once our Rogue timer dropped, we'd go back to the point, where our ganked fellows would likely show up again, pissed that we took all their stuff and attack us. But now that we're no longer Rogue, attacking us flags THEM as Rogue, we kill them and collect our massive DZ credit payment.
Rinse, repeat.
We also found a bug where we were able to get more than 4 people into a single group. Needless to say, it was INSANELY OP. We absolutely dominated the entire zone for like 2 hours.
It looks like your level is capped at 8. I've had a full bar of XP for awhile now and it's not ticking over - which is a shame since I saw a level 11 req piece of gear on one of the vendors.
It looks like your DZ rank is capped at 12. I mean, I've purchased just about every available max-rank item in the DZ and still have 10k DZ credits, so I probably should have ticked over to 13 at some point.
There's nowhere near enough solo-content, even for a beta. You can plow through all the missions and encounters in the solo zone in a couple of hours. That should put you up to level 7 or so. After that, you have to run the hospital mission on Hard over and over to get any meaningful XP - since you get nothing in the DZ. You get a decent piece of loot at the end, but it's far easier to get stuff in the DZ (both from vendors and NPCs).
The DZ is amazing... but. But the most efficient way to make progress is to be the biggest possible asshole. Our team quickly figured out that you get very little DZ credit from being Rogue, unless you successfully run out your timer - and even then, it's not as efficient. The best way to make DZ credit is to kill Rogues yourself. And the best way to get items to camp the extraction points. So, we ultimately settled into a scenario where a group of agents would come to the extraction loaded with items, we would jump them with about 30 seconds or so on the timer, kill them, take their items, load up and run away. Once our Rogue timer dropped, we'd go back to the point, where our ganked fellows would likely show up again, pissed that we took all their stuff and attack us. But now that we're no longer Rogue, attacking us flags THEM as Rogue, we kill them and collect our massive DZ credit payment.
Rinse, repeat.
We also found a bug where we were able to get more than 4 people into a single group. Needless to say, it was INSANELY OP. We absolutely dominated the entire zone for like 2 hours.
Art Vandilay
Member
Don't forget running several blocks to the next colorful object on the map, only to face the exact same type of enemies. At least that's how I felt about it.
The Amusing Ciderman
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Lol. Okay then. Back to Rainbow I go. Thanks for the info.
TheWorthyEdge
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Anyone want to help me take down this group of 4 in the DZ? They are all wanted or Manhunt or whatever
Theyre dicks.
Theyre dicks.
Those missions look like Strikes to me. Go to dungeon/area and take down enemies in waves and defeat boss at the end. Yup, they're Strikes.
So people could potentially kill you in the dark zone for loot?
I just went there, and fought some npcs, some friendly dude came and helped and left the loot for me, I went to extract the stuff, saw some guy got killed there and I raised him, and got some loot after extraction
I just went there, and fought some npcs, some friendly dude came and helped and left the loot for me, I went to extract the stuff, saw some guy got killed there and I raised him, and got some loot after extraction
Art Vandilay
Member
Yes, people will kill you and steal your loot.
I see, guess my first experience there wasn't too bad :v
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