Octavianus
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nah, jon snow is low rent jon snow.
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The Expanse |S2| You guys look like shit - Wednesdays on Syfy
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nah, jon snow is low rent jon snow.
Cornballer
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New episode tonight:
Yeah, it is funny calling Holden a low rent Jon Snow because I think Jon Snow is one of the most poorly acted characters on Game of Thrones. But maybe that fits, Holden is my least favorite character. Just something about his delivery bothers me.
tearsintherain
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When I first saw the casting announcement I didn't like it but I don't think he's all that bad.
In terms of delivery when I read the books, before there was ever an announced TV show I always pictured a Martin Freeman style delivery to Holden's way of handling things. Kind of an unintentional hero. Obviously he would have been too old I think for the role, but that is the type of delivery I always pictured when reading.
In terms of delivery when I read the books, before there was ever an announced TV show I always pictured a Martin Freeman style delivery to Holden's way of handling things. Kind of an unintentional hero. Obviously he would have been too old I think for the role, but that is the type of delivery I always pictured when reading.
Book Bobbie doesn't have a Mariner Valley drawl, as she's not from the Mariner Valley.
Really? My mistake. I felt like there was another Mariner Valley character at some point. D:
DangerMouse
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"We're a lot alike" 
Then as he keeps talking Miller pulls the bottle back over to himself lol.
Then as he keeps talking Miller pulls the bottle back over to himself lol.
Cornballer
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Funky Papa
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Let me catch up so I can make all the jifs.
Napoleonthechimp
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I've been reading the books because of this show and I've got to say... they're so simplistically written. No wonder they've gotten 6 out in the span of 6 years.
Back-In-Black
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THANK YOU! I don't think I've posted in this thread but I read the first book a while back after hearing some positive things and the rumblings of a TV show. Instantly regretted it, I thought it was really standard and poorly written, suffice to say I wasn't looking forward much to the TV show unless they were making substantial changes. That said, I've been enjoying the TV show, so far they've made changes where appropriate and have cleaned up a lot of the crappy writing while retaining those brief good moments. I was waiting that whole last episode for, "I killed him because he made too much sense." I'm glad that made it in.
Still, I don't think the show will ever truly be great because the source material isn't that great. But, I could be wrong. I never read past the first book because that was all I needed to completely turn me off from the series.
Moff
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I always said the show is better than the books and I hope they change a lot. Book 3 and 4 were really bad. But 5 is great again with some fantastic plotlines.
I think the story, foundation, setting and some characters are good. Thats all the show really needs to take from the book. Acting, direction and some decent budget can make up for some of the books shortcomings.
Season 1 already changed a lot and I hope they continue to do that.
I think the story, foundation, setting and some characters are good. Thats all the show really needs to take from the book. Acting, direction and some decent budget can make up for some of the books shortcomings.
Season 1 already changed a lot and I hope they continue to do that.
Cornballer
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- Sneak peek scene from next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Inside Season 2: Episode 3
- Inside Season 2: Episode 3
Dubbedinenglish
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Poor Mormons, they just want to get away and thier ship is getting stolen lol
dead souls
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He's by far the best. He's the only character that is exactly like I imagined them to be when I read the books.
tearsintherain
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There are moments of absolute greatness in the books, like the protomolecule stuff or anything to do with Avasarala, that are absolutely buried by hundreds of pages of mediocrity. The show has done a fantastic job of weeding out all the junk.
Not as strong an episode as the first two, but I suspect a great build up to the next one with a lot of pieces being moved around into position. I don't really remember the books much now (except the last one) so I really thought "huh... does Miller join the Mormons?" and then that last scene when you realize Miller just wants to fuck the mormons out of their $1 trillion spaceship. Oh Jesus Christ Miller, is there anyone you won't screw over badly?
All the protomolecule stuff made this episode for me, everyone standing around after the mad scientist says that Eros is building something... damn, how do you NOT run around yelling and screaming "we're all doomed! doomed!!!"
Fred Johnson awesome as always.
DangerMouse
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The Alex scene with him obsessing over whether there was something he could have done different in the battle was good too.
LOL yeah to both of these! I was wondering why Miller was there lol!
Oh, very interesting.
and then that last scene when you realize Miller just wants to fuck the mormons out of their $1 trillion spaceship. Oh Jesus Christ Miller, is there anyone you won't screw over badly?
Fred Johnson awesome as always.
LOL yeah to both of these! I was wondering why Miller was there lol!
Oh, very interesting.
Napoleonthechimp
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I think they're poor. It annoys me when authors coast along as they have, or maybe it annoys me they've been successful doing it.
At this point I also consider the show to be better than the books for the most part. The only exception is the physical differences between humans. They obviously can't do that with actors.
Moff
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they can, it's just not possible on the show's tight budget to have thousands of them
WeirdoStalkerJr
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I am sooo hooked into the show! I just hope they change up some of the actions from the books. As I have read them all,
Spoiler from last episode
I hope that ties into...
MASSIVE SPOILER
Spoiler from last episode
Miller sees a ghost
I hope that ties into...
MASSIVE SPOILER
Miller not dying like he does in the book
I like the books. The prose isn't anything special (I disagree that it's poorly written), but they're entertaining stories/characters and release at a decent pace (having two authors working on it probably helps). There are definitely some parts I hated in books 3 and 4 though. The show has been doing good for the most part.
tearsintherain
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yup, just checked the credits for episode 2 have no music just distorted sounds that are now (in hindsight) obviously from Eros. There are clearly some voices and modulations going on so probably with some sound filtering you could probably decode something, similar to how the scientist in episode 3 claimed there was a timer and countdown (or count up?) in the signal, ala Independence Day.
They showed Eros briefly for a second in episode 3 too, it was the giant rock with a red "light" on it.
Don't know if its been mentioned but the entire season will be available on Netflix AFTER it finishes airing. Not sure how the amazon/netflix deal is, might be available on netflix only internationally and on amazon on domestic. Its showing up on Amazon within 24 hours of airing - eps 1-3 of season 2 already up.
If you check out the Daniel Abraham (James Corey) other work -- like the Long Price Quartet -- the writing style is completely and totally different. You wouldn't even recognize it was the same author. Granted partly because he's working with a co-author.
But also because the Expanse books are conceived as a throwback or homage to 70s era epic scifi, and so were kind of cheesy on purpose to capture that feeling. The show really doesn't take that approach.
But also because the Expanse books are conceived as a throwback or homage to 70s era epic scifi, and so were kind of cheesy on purpose to capture that feeling. The show really doesn't take that approach.
DangerMouse
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razgriz417
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agreed, idk why I love it so much
GavinUK86
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I know, right!?! It's amazing.
Rumblebones
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Amos and Miller are all I need though though I wish the rest of the crew were more interesting.
Only just seen Ep 1&2. So good. Glad its back. That punch from Amos.
On the audio, my colleague and I both said that the first series had a weird mix that sometimes made it hard to understand what was being said, and there were a couple of times in this where it felt the same. Most noticeably seems to be an issue with some characters affecting a "space" accent.
On the audio, my colleague and I both said that the first series had a weird mix that sometimes made it hard to understand what was being said, and there were a couple of times in this where it felt the same. Most noticeably seems to be an issue with some characters affecting a "space" accent.
DangerMouse
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Yeah.
Backlogger
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That's the Belter language/accent/lingo. It's like English Spanish Portuguese and a few other languages mixed or something
parrotbeak
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Thanks for the negative words on the books. Was thinking of reading because the show is so good but I guess I'll just hope the show keeps going.
I actually feel like I can tell when a chapter of the expanse books has been primarily written by Daniel Abraham, and which have been written by Ty Franck, mentioned this in the "What are you reading?" thread once or twice. It's getting particularly obvious in the later books.
I enjoy the books (though the last 2 have been quite dissapointing), but they are very pulpy. Can't wait for Abraham to write something else on his own again.
Books are awesome. They are light to read [that's not a bad thing], but they have so much more detail than show. Dismissing them based on few random comments would be a waste.