Eh standard youtube fair..... NOoooo....well he is on the road and it looks like the switch over is not going over nearly as smooth as originally anticipated
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Eh standard youtube fair..... NOoooo....well he is on the road and it looks like the switch over is not going over nearly as smooth as originally anticipated
He is an expert of nothing, and his opinions are sometimes partially wrong.
Rough episode for rough games, so meta!
Yeah the format wasn't really working, Final Bosman is a well produced and scripted show, doesn't work well to showcase shit games.
On the subject of trash flooding estores, Jim Sterling did a better and more focused piece.
Also lacked energy in general, felt like they threw it up together in 5 minutes at the end of a work day or something.
Yeah the format wasn't really working, Final Bosman is a well produced and scripted show, doesn't work well to showcase shit games.
On the subject of trash flooding estores, Jim Sterling did a better and more focused piece.
Also lacked energy in general, felt like they threw it up together in 5 minutes at the end of a work day or something.
MetalGuardian
Banned
For some reason (clarification: i know the reason for the drunk) I'm drunk and this response is the only one that felt suitable.
Unlikely that this will get the same degree of blowback as the last episode did. It was still mediocre, but Bosman is wandering nomad at the moment, and I'll assuredly stick with him during the interim because he's one of my favorites.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I thought his point was perfectly clear. "Nintendo, moderate your digital store"
Nintendo has a chance to be the digital shop with the least amount of shovelware if they commit the manpower and time to it. It's frustrating to see another one go down the same path as the others, in some ways
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Eh, I enjoyed this episode and got a couple laughs out of it. I love blatantly open he is about being unhappy with the GT buyout.
Also, Kyle is totally right. You can't have this copycat shovelware on the eshop. That does nothing but lower the value of games there.
Also, Kyle is totally right. You can't have this copycat shovelware on the eshop. That does nothing but lower the value of games there.
I enjoyed the episode, and mainly because I had been noticing the same thing. They must have REALLY lowered the bar for putting software on the WiiU shop. It's kind of ironic, because in some of the Nintendo communities I frequent, they have a real sour attitude towards iOS and its apparent lack of quality games.
DAREALGUMMY
Member
Not sure what the problems with this episode and the last. Has an opinion, explains or showcases on why he has them. Thought they were both pretty good.
I have reservations about saying this, especially considering that I know Kyle reads this thread, but man these last few episodes have been rough and it's been especially bad this time. In true Bosman style, I think I'm going to go down a list.
1. Presentation
Setting and dress have a lot to do with how a show is perceived and speaks a lot to how professional and well constructed a show is. Kyle knows this. Ever since his earliest videos, he's made a point to try to wear a suit every episode. On top of that, he recognizes that your set is important, so every time he got a new one he would integrate it into his show by giving names to bricks or city buildings.
With "On the Road" he's given up all of that. He's resigned to wearing casual shirts and clothes and has been changing from set to set (if you can even call them sets) that have no personality and Kyle has no time to well integrate them into his show because he doesn't even know if he can or will want to film there the next week. Of course this isn't his fault, but that doesn't keep it from being a problem.
It's like a straight A-student who always makes these amazing incredible Powerpoint presentations for computer class or something. You know, they got animations and cool designs and so much creativity that the other students in class are like "WHOA I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT." Then one day the student just shows up in slacks with a mostly blank poster that just has bullet points on it and says, "Welp, here it is for this week!" Everyone just ends up a bit confused because even though the points are just as valid, they know he has and can do better.
Overall it just keeps the show feeling like, as another poster said, an episode that was just thrown together at the end of the day, even if that isn't true.
2. Editing
I understand that Gametrailers has lost a lot of good people during the transition into Defy Media away from Viacom including Anton, but some of the best Final Bosman moments have been cleverly edited sequences that add a lot of personality to the show. Things from Liquid Bosman to Mr. Mime to all the dance sequences. I mean, even having different music cues throughout the episodes add a lot but those seem to be gone as well as the Viacom library is taken away from them. Having the camera just focus on Kyle with next to no cuts or funny sequences really brings to attention the loss of any real production value this show has had and makes it so much more bland. The show used to have a tight script with a clear point A to point B but gave enough room for Kyle to riff, but now it just seems a bit too lax. There's nothing wrong with having Kyle just talk to the camera, but compared to what they used to do with the show it just comes up feeling a little empty and haphazard.
3. Hide the Pain
This Defy Media move has obviously hit Kyle pretty hard. Dude's a pretty sincere guy and bares his soul out in every episode and ever since the E3 show this year he's openly been...depressed may be too strong of a word...but he's been down in the dumps. Understandably so! You can see his sadness break out in little bits like when he sighs at how he's still on the move and that things haven't worked out the way they were planned or how such as in this episode he playacts how Defy might chastise Kyle for any criticisms against the brand as a whole. He's lost a bit of the charisma and bubbliness that he's had in the past.
Kyle's still got it though. His points are still valid and well thought out and he's still hilarious, but it's just that the presentation leaves the show lacking which brings Kyle down even more.
The show has been praised for how Kyle just tells it like it is and isn't afraid to speak about what is on his mind: the difference between him and other hosts obviously being that Kyle is more positive than most. Because that's who he is! He likes to give both the good and bad equal showtime instead of just being angry every episode. However that's what happens when you have a sincere guy become the face of a brand like Kyle has become for Gametrailers in the past year and a half: if he goes down then it brings down a lot of the general perception towards the company.
I think that this move has taken a toll on him but that's probably not a fair judgement for me to make since I don't know him personally. All I know is that things have changed and I'm hoping he can get right back on track once they all settle down. Until then, I share the sentiment that I would rather have more First Fifteens than Final Bosmans.
1. Presentation
Setting and dress have a lot to do with how a show is perceived and speaks a lot to how professional and well constructed a show is. Kyle knows this. Ever since his earliest videos, he's made a point to try to wear a suit every episode. On top of that, he recognizes that your set is important, so every time he got a new one he would integrate it into his show by giving names to bricks or city buildings.
With "On the Road" he's given up all of that. He's resigned to wearing casual shirts and clothes and has been changing from set to set (if you can even call them sets) that have no personality and Kyle has no time to well integrate them into his show because he doesn't even know if he can or will want to film there the next week. Of course this isn't his fault, but that doesn't keep it from being a problem.
It's like a straight A-student who always makes these amazing incredible Powerpoint presentations for computer class or something. You know, they got animations and cool designs and so much creativity that the other students in class are like "WHOA I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT." Then one day the student just shows up in slacks with a mostly blank poster that just has bullet points on it and says, "Welp, here it is for this week!" Everyone just ends up a bit confused because even though the points are just as valid, they know he has and can do better.
Overall it just keeps the show feeling like, as another poster said, an episode that was just thrown together at the end of the day, even if that isn't true.
2. Editing
I understand that Gametrailers has lost a lot of good people during the transition into Defy Media away from Viacom including Anton, but some of the best Final Bosman moments have been cleverly edited sequences that add a lot of personality to the show. Things from Liquid Bosman to Mr. Mime to all the dance sequences. I mean, even having different music cues throughout the episodes add a lot but those seem to be gone as well as the Viacom library is taken away from them. Having the camera just focus on Kyle with next to no cuts or funny sequences really brings to attention the loss of any real production value this show has had and makes it so much more bland. The show used to have a tight script with a clear point A to point B but gave enough room for Kyle to riff, but now it just seems a bit too lax. There's nothing wrong with having Kyle just talk to the camera, but compared to what they used to do with the show it just comes up feeling a little empty and haphazard.
3. Hide the Pain
This Defy Media move has obviously hit Kyle pretty hard. Dude's a pretty sincere guy and bares his soul out in every episode and ever since the E3 show this year he's openly been...depressed may be too strong of a word...but he's been down in the dumps. Understandably so! You can see his sadness break out in little bits like when he sighs at how he's still on the move and that things haven't worked out the way they were planned or how such as in this episode he playacts how Defy might chastise Kyle for any criticisms against the brand as a whole. He's lost a bit of the charisma and bubbliness that he's had in the past.
Kyle's still got it though. His points are still valid and well thought out and he's still hilarious, but it's just that the presentation leaves the show lacking which brings Kyle down even more.
The show has been praised for how Kyle just tells it like it is and isn't afraid to speak about what is on his mind: the difference between him and other hosts obviously being that Kyle is more positive than most. Because that's who he is! He likes to give both the good and bad equal showtime instead of just being angry every episode. However that's what happens when you have a sincere guy become the face of a brand like Kyle has become for Gametrailers in the past year and a half: if he goes down then it brings down a lot of the general perception towards the company.
I think that this move has taken a toll on him but that's probably not a fair judgement for me to make since I don't know him personally. All I know is that things have changed and I'm hoping he can get right back on track once they all settle down. Until then, I share the sentiment that I would rather have more First Fifteens than Final Bosmans.
this is the problem with running a curated store front that accepts indie games.
users don't want a store filled with garbage, but as long as your process leaves out a single indie game that people want to see, both users and developers claim the system is fundamentally broken in how strict it is.
Honestly, I encourage anyone to go find the original big Steam Greenlight thread on GAF. You can see it go from "I hate this because they're too strict" to it now being "there's no quality control, the Steam store is full of crap" over time.
Benzychenz
Member
Is 'god damn it' being a terrible thing to say and not suitable for kids an american thing?
Yeah, that's what I meant. But I found last weeks episode to be a bit messy and poorly thought out at certain points. His opinion here was much more concise.
Portugeezer
Member
For strict Christians maybe... and well, makes sense for America.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Why do people keep saying this when it was explained a million times what that logo was for
No, I thought the focus on "god damn it" was weird too, and I'm american.
What was it for?
Dsyndrome
Member
Pretty much if it can't be said on Big Bang Theory, it's not allowed. Having a damn in there makes it teen alone; having tits would be NC-17 level shit.
I don't even think I've seen bitch on anything besides cable networks, mostly Breaking Bad.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Edited. This will only derail this thread. Let's just say FCC rules and regulations aren't the moral compass for America.
And I thought this was a good show. Don't understand the grumbling. It's like ever since he took off the suit people have a problem with the show.
And I thought this was a good show. Don't understand the grumbling. It's like ever since he took off the suit people have a problem with the show.
Brad Grenz
Member
I did tweet him about the art debate we were having last week...
Mushroomer25
Member
Final Bets : Gamescom 2014 is up.
Dsyndrome
Member
Now I'm dying to know what Anton looks like.
Beeblebrox
Member
Stakes are much better now, at least for Mike. That call Kyle wants him to make is so much better than that lame change of PSN avatar. Tho, Kyle will lose this time I think. The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy questions will be the end of him :/
RadioactiveLobster
Member
So Elyse's bet of "Yes" for the "Will gameplay for GTA V for any 8th gen consoles be shown at any press conference?", if they do show gameplay (I doubt it, trailer maybe but gameplay... nah) and it turns out to be PC footage would that invalidate the answer?
Zeyphersan
Banned
Fuck you Bosman, I need to see Anton!
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I started dying when Bosman said Last Guardian will show up and Huber was like "Thats 3 points for me" LOL. Even Bosman started cracking up.
Dsyndrome
Member
Found Anton.
Click to have Anton enhance.
Click to have Anton enhance.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Quantum Break will definitely take up more than 5 minutes at MS's press conference.
I get the impression he is just the nicest guy. I want to give him a hug.
I get the impression he is just the nicest guy. I want to give him a hug.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
You just lost yourself a point my friend... =P
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Haha, we'll see.
We did this last time, I think it'd be cool to try again. Here are the questions, and my answers, replace with your own for fun and hilarity.
Will EA show any Star Wars games? Yes
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? Yes
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? Eight
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? So GoW/QD/Mass Effect... I think that's it, three.
Double jump at Sony? Yes, Media Molecule are announcing their game.
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? Nope
Game announced and released within a month? This depends, does announcing a port count? Journey will be out within the month.
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? Twelve
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? March 17th
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? Yes, normally I'd say no, but SE are creaming over BDFF's international performance, so they might.
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? Gameplay, no, including talking, yes.
Will any demos break at a conference? No
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? This question is stupid given 'same area' is so vague. Does that mean running down the exact same streets, or just around that city in general? Either way, I'll say no, a less geometrically dense area should be running better and hold up for a public demo.
FINAL BETS - TLG? Not there.
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. No, they literally announced REREmake this week, and RE:R2 is next.
Will EA show any Star Wars games? Yes
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? Yes
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? Eight
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? So GoW/QD/Mass Effect... I think that's it, three.
Double jump at Sony? Yes, Media Molecule are announcing their game.
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? Nope
Game announced and released within a month? This depends, does announcing a port count? Journey will be out within the month.
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? Twelve
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? March 17th
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? Yes, normally I'd say no, but SE are creaming over BDFF's international performance, so they might.
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? Gameplay, no, including talking, yes.
Will any demos break at a conference? No
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? This question is stupid given 'same area' is so vague. Does that mean running down the exact same streets, or just around that city in general? Either way, I'll say no, a less geometrically dense area should be running better and hold up for a public demo.
FINAL BETS - TLG? Not there.
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. No, they literally announced REREmake this week, and RE:R2 is next.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Will EA show any Star Wars games? No
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? Yes
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? Four
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? 5
Double jump at Sony? Yes
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? No
Game announced and released within a month? Yes
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? No
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? 27
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? Early 2016
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? No
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? No
Will any demos break at a conference? Yes
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? yes.
FINAL BETS - TLG? No
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. No
Im locking my answers in......NOW
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? Yes
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? Four
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? 5
Double jump at Sony? Yes
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? No
Game announced and released within a month? Yes
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? No
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? 27
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? Early 2016
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? No
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? No
Will any demos break at a conference? Yes
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? yes.
FINAL BETS - TLG? No
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. No
Im locking my answers in......NOW
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Will EA show any Star Wars games? No
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? No
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? Twelve
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? Three
Double jump at Sony? Yes
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? No
Game announced and released within a month? Yes. Sony likes surprise announcements.
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? By Kojima? No. Maybe by somebody else. I'll stick with no.
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? 20
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? March 17, if the rumors are to be believed.
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? Yes. Didn't they say they had stuff to show at Gamescom? These two are pretty big deals.
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? Absolutely yes.
Will any demos break at a conference? No
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? No? Total shot in the dark. Haven't been following this game at all.
FINAL BETS - TLG? No. But like Kyle, I believe. So yes.
FINAL BETS - lol no
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? No
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? Twelve
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? Three
Double jump at Sony? Yes
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? No
Game announced and released within a month? Yes. Sony likes surprise announcements.
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? By Kojima? No. Maybe by somebody else. I'll stick with no.
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? 20
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? March 17, if the rumors are to be believed.
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? Yes. Didn't they say they had stuff to show at Gamescom? These two are pretty big deals.
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? Absolutely yes.
Will any demos break at a conference? No
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? No? Total shot in the dark. Haven't been following this game at all.
FINAL BETS - TLG? No. But like Kyle, I believe. So yes.
FINAL BETS - lol no
MrCunningham
Member
Well, I will give it a second shot....
Will EA show any Star Wars games? Yes- Keeping this a yes
Euro price cut for XBO? No - I'm going to say no, but I think some new Euro bundles will be anounced
New games by Nintendo? No - Yeah no. Nintendo will not anounce anything that we haven't already seen. This is not a Nintendo Direct.
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? 6
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? Hmmm.... I dunno, two?
Double jump at Sony? Probably yes... though I think it is more likely to see one at the Microsoft conference
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? Nope, I think it is more likely that they will put a new trailer online with gameplay footage
Game announced and released within a month? I think it's likely that some digital release or smaller title will be anounced and released within the same month
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? Mentioned? I will say no. Shown? Maybe.
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? umm... 12, because why not?
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? March 2015
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? Yes
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? I will say yes as well. Remedy is definitly hyping this game up for Gamescom and I think they will do a live gameplay demo.
Will any demos break at a conference? hmm... I will say no.
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? No. I will say that they will show something new.
FINAL BETS - TLG? Hell no.
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. Nope, because of RE: Remake Remaster
Will EA show any Star Wars games? Yes- Keeping this a yes
Euro price cut for XBO? No - I'm going to say no, but I think some new Euro bundles will be anounced
New games by Nintendo? No - Yeah no. Nintendo will not anounce anything that we haven't already seen. This is not a Nintendo Direct.
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? 6
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? Hmmm.... I dunno, two?
Double jump at Sony? Probably yes... though I think it is more likely to see one at the Microsoft conference
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? Nope, I think it is more likely that they will put a new trailer online with gameplay footage
Game announced and released within a month? I think it's likely that some digital release or smaller title will be anounced and released within the same month
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? Mentioned? I will say no. Shown? Maybe.
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? umm... 12, because why not?
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? March 2015
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? Yes
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? I will say yes as well. Remedy is definitly hyping this game up for Gamescom and I think they will do a live gameplay demo.
Will any demos break at a conference? hmm... I will say no.
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? No. I will say that they will show something new.
FINAL BETS - TLG? Hell no.
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. Nope, because of RE: Remake Remaster
RadioactiveLobster
Member
It's always Rock, Paper, Scissors, *show your hand*
I've never heard of anyone doing it any different until Huber
Also, confirmed via twitter if GTA V gameplay shows up at Gamescom and it turns out to be PC footage it will not count as correct in terms of the bet.
LiquidSolid
Member
I kinda regret not doing this for the E3 one but I will this time:
Will EA show any Star Wars games? No. I can't remember EA ever doing something big for GamesCom
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? No
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? 15
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? Three. Journey and Unfinished Swan are givens, plus one more (Sleepy Dogs? Beyond?)
Double jump at Sony? Yes. Between Destiny, indies and Media Molecule's new game, this is an easy bet.
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? No
Game announced and released within a month? No
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? No
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? 25 times
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? 17th March
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? lol no
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? Yes. It's the biggest thing they've got for their show
Will any demos break at a conference? No
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? Yes, though maybe a little longer. It's not like they over-exposed the E3 area, so there's no need to give away other parts of the game already
FINAL BETS - TLG? No. E3 2015 announcement
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. No
Will EA show any Star Wars games? No. I can't remember EA ever doing something big for GamesCom
Euro price cut for XBO? No
New games by Nintendo? No
PS4 Journey? Yes
SHOWDOWN - How many times will MS say Halo? 15
SHOWDOWN - All conferences, how many remakes/remasters announced? Three. Journey and Unfinished Swan are givens, plus one more (Sleepy Dogs? Beyond?)
Double jump at Sony? Yes. Between Destiny, indies and Media Molecule's new game, this is an easy bet.
GTA5 gameplay at a conference? No
Game announced and released within a month? No
On Konami's stream, will Volgin be mentioned? No
SHOWDOWN - How many times will Sony say 'content'? 25 times
SHOWDOWN - When will MGS5 be released? 17th March
Will SE show FFXV or KH3? lol no
Will QB take more than 5mins at MS' conference? Yes. It's the biggest thing they've got for their show
Will any demos break at a conference? No
Will the Bloodborne demo be in the same area as the E3 demo? Yes, though maybe a little longer. It's not like they over-exposed the E3 area, so there's no need to give away other parts of the game already
FINAL BETS - TLG? No. E3 2015 announcement
FINAL BETS - RE7 will be announced for PS4. No
Yes.
O yes. These are two fanboys, the competition needs to be fierce.
Hubert is so winning this.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Watching this episode made me think that Kyle should never ever open Steam again. The Letter seems like a game that would fit right among all the other garbage. Goddamit steam currate your store, I loved browsing through the new releases....
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
It's 1-2-3-shoot. If you do it any differently you are literally a crazy person.
Um, yes? That's why we care. If they just rattled off a list of bets there would be no point.