Hannor Mir
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Someone going through a some sort of portal
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the Legends thriwn into a Time Portal
Mon'El sucked into a Space/Time Portal
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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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WordsintheWater
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I hope they don't have Wally as the Flash for more then 2 episodes max, I'm sorry, but his actor is not good enough to carry the show, Grant Gustin is a far better actor.
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JeremyEtcetera
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Even if it is just one episode, at least I will get to see a cool episode and intro of Wally West proclaiming that he is The Flash.
Also that Savitar suit looked way better in black and red.
Is it the actor's fault though? He hasn't even had a good chance to prove himself as a good main actor considering they keep putting him in each episode, with barely meaningful dialogue, for less than 10-15 minutes.
Also that Savitar suit looked way better in black and red.
Is it the actor's fault though? He hasn't even had a good chance to prove himself as a good main actor considering they keep putting him in each episode, with barely meaningful dialogue, for less than 10-15 minutes.
Grant Gustin couldn't play a convincing villain, that didn't stop them
NLCP Gaming
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I know for a fact I said years ago, they will get rid of Barry Allen and star Wally West because of the flash movie coming out.
WordsintheWater
Member
It may not be on him, I dunno, I haven't seen anything that would tell me otherwise though. Maybe you are right and if they actually write some decent stuff for him he will be able to pull it off.
I thought he did an okay job with what was given to him. This whole season was sloppy though, I don't think we can gauge much from it.
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JeremyEtcetera
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It felt like a watching a voice actor who played a villain before but just now decided to do screen acting, and thus his voice was on point but his emotions and movements weren't.
I think once they put him in the driver's seat and give him more meaning(and more meaningful dialogue) he'll step it up. I felt the same way you did when it came to Sarah Lance's actor in Legends, but she stepped up and the show's been better for it.
I just pray that they find or have writer who can live up to Wally's jokes/puns. That will make or break his character. He should be way more of a jokester than Barry, especially after a supposed time skip.
Bluemongoose
Neo Member
Yes, it looked like Barry was reaching him (himself?) but for some reason he just says "Screw it"? And I've missed some episodes so I don't really know why SPECIFICALLY Savitar became evil. And why is his face scarred!? He can heal.
I really stopped watching regularly when the musical episode came up. I'll watch it, but I just got the feeling that they wasted an episode just because they wanted to do the Broadway musical thing.
And what is Tom Felton's character's role in this? He does nothing but advance Caitlyn's plotpoints. He doesn't stand out on his own as an original , fleshed out character. Felton is collecting an easy check imo.
I forgot about Wally trying to save Iris. Man, that would've been the perfect lead-in to this.
Barry also said she'll always be Iris West-Allen, though. So, she probably adopts the name even without the formal wedding.
Freddy=Legend
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Just caught up. Finale was ok. Even with the some of the more bone-head moments it had, I enjoyed the Supergirl finale more. Felt like it had a good message and wrapped up with a better vibe to it. Maybe because this season sort of hand waved the end of last season away so quickly, I don't expect the status quo to be all that effected at the start of next season.
jobrro
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I really enjoyed the finale except for the last few minutes. I wish they could have just left it with a happy ending for once, he's going to be back next season anyway.
Fight scene with all hands on deck was great.
Sad about HR but they would have made reason up to get a new Wells for season 4 anyway so it's better him than Iris. Also somehow Julienne survived! Also like that Kaitlyn is not longer Killer Frost and not quite back to OG Kaitlyn. I am sure she will come back to Team Flash early next season though, bit of a boys club and even more so without her.
Fight scene with all hands on deck was great.
Sad about HR but they would have made reason up to get a new Wells for season 4 anyway so it's better him than Iris. Also somehow Julienne survived! Also like that Kaitlyn is not longer Killer Frost and not quite back to OG Kaitlyn. I am sure she will come back to Team Flash early next season though, bit of a boys club and even more so without her.
Honestly. Flashpoint lasted one episode and we thought it would last a lot longer.
So Barry being going more than one episode? Doubt it. He'll be back within the first episode.
Yeah, it was related to Savitar manifesting in the future before he got trapped in the speed force.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ok, so when they bring Earth 2 Harrison to talk to the lady scientist, both me and my wife did audible head-smacks. She just lost her boyfriend and the first thing they think of is bringing in his exact duplicate .. struck me as real odd.
Also, Black Flash got KO'ed with just that little effort ? fuuuuuuck ... that ..
Also, Black Flash got KO'ed with just that little effort ? fuuuuuuck ... that ..
NO! And ppl stop bring this up, dead shot and Amanda Waller were side characters, not the main character of their own show. D.C. Is not going to fire there main star
God that was really mediocre. Hamfisted emotional unearned drama wrapped in character arcs with unsatisfactory conclusions amd arbitrary consequences. They keep going so...
flashy... with the results of these people's choices but the script doesn't really allow them to react like actual people enough. Like, Iris just shot Barry, a Barry that used to love her, and killed him. And by the end of the episode she's just laughing, with them even acknowledging "Eh maybe the emotional trauma will hit me later".
I realized thats my issue with this season overall. Unlike in Season 1, for the most part these characters don't act or react like real people so I'm not as invested as I can't relate to their 2-dimensional character motivations. Only to the testament of the actors can I even bear to watch this. I'll be back next season, and I hope the writers' ability to convey actual humanity in their scripts comes back as well.
flashy... with the results of these people's choices but the script doesn't really allow them to react like actual people enough. Like, Iris just shot Barry, a Barry that used to love her, and killed him. And by the end of the episode she's just laughing, with them even acknowledging "Eh maybe the emotional trauma will hit me later".
I realized thats my issue with this season overall. Unlike in Season 1, for the most part these characters don't act or react like real people so I'm not as invested as I can't relate to their 2-dimensional character motivations. Only to the testament of the actors can I even bear to watch this. I'll be back next season, and I hope the writers' ability to convey actual humanity in their scripts comes back as well.
One of the lead writers is leaving, so your wish may be granted.
When I heard someone bring this up they said he would be gone until after the Christmas break. He told me this last week that they would lock Barry in the speed force. I'm furious and just want some word from DC or the show runners saying this is not the case. DC already showed they don't care about the actor by casting someone else. If they are concerned about something as small as a side character wouldn't they treat a major face the same way?
One can only hope to Savitar that it does.
Vulcano's assistant
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The show is desperately chasing the opportunity they wasted in the ending of season 2. Barry should had gone back to reveal he was the time remnant who saved everyone with his sacrifice.
As expected, I was not satisfied. Well, at least Iris is still alive. Won't lie, didn't feel a damn thing for H.R. dying, and it's not like I even hate him. (I do prefer the other Wells though...) Meh, not much more to say really about this episode or this season, it just wasn't very good. May have been if the pacing was a lot better, but oh well. The wait for Season 4 begins.... (No speedster villain this time right? Please tell me this is true...)
Bruh we couldn't even get several episodes of Flashpoint, which is something that could've been truly and easily interesting as fuck to explore. I'm still salty about that.
Bruh we couldn't even get several episodes of Flashpoint, which is something that could've been truly and easily interesting as fuck to explore. I'm still salty about that.
Yes they've confirmed it's not a speedster. They name checked the probable big bad twice already, it's The Thinker.
Nice, look forward to it.
BFIB
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I'm assuming since he took Wallys place, someone has to take his?
Because Barry was taking responsibility for his mess. It's not Jay's fault all of this happened, he shouldn't have to suffer.
The One and Done
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See guys, my assessment turned out to be accurate. You're welcome.
Guy is like 3 times his age lol
It wasn't as bad as I feared it would be, mostly because despite some clunky dialogue, the emotional scenes landed. Still, HR's death left me cold because the character never grew on me and Savitar's fate made me shrug (and made the team out to be a bunch of idiots). The real strength of the episode is Barry FINALLY taking responsibility for his shit choices. Even if it gets reversed at the beginning of next season (and it will be), it's nice that the show recognized its lead had to pay a price. Hopefully, he'll return in a much better frame of mind and less broody.
It's just becoming increasingly clear to me that with these showrunners, the show will never get back to its season 1 greatness. That's a shame.
(Neely's cue for the last five minutes was nice. Just makes me wish the show had the budget for an orchestra.)
It's just becoming increasingly clear to me that with these showrunners, the show will never get back to its season 1 greatness. That's a shame.
(Neely's cue for the last five minutes was nice. Just makes me wish the show had the budget for an orchestra.)
BLOODED_hands
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It was about damn time for Barry to accept that this was all of his doing. He took all his L's and decided to own up to them. That's better than what most GAFfers are willing to do 
"Savitar took the speed force bazooka."
That line perfectly encapsulates why I haven't enjoyed most of the season. It just became too loony for me - Gorilla City was probably the tipping point. The one thing that might have saved S3 for me was more King Shark.
After tomorrow's Arrow finale I'll bid the CWverse adieu. It's been fun.
That line perfectly encapsulates why I haven't enjoyed most of the season. It just became too loony for me - Gorilla City was probably the tipping point. The one thing that might have saved S3 for me was more King Shark.
After tomorrow's Arrow finale I'll bid the CWverse adieu. It's been fun.
That's because halfway through the season they threw it out the window. It writes itself: Wally not only has to surpass Barry Allen, but also has to defeat him.
Albino_Yeti
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Isn't King Shark just as loony as a city run by gorillas?
serenewarfare
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I liked the finale.
Also I'm a bit more optimistic that we might get an extended run with no Barry (and by extended I mean like until mid-season at best). They caught a lot of shit for hanging on to Flashpoint for all of one episode, and I don't think they'll make that mistake again.
At the very least, I don't think Barry will be back before episode 2 or 3.
Also I'm a bit more optimistic that we might get an extended run with no Barry (and by extended I mean like until mid-season at best). They caught a lot of shit for hanging on to Flashpoint for all of one episode, and I don't think they'll make that mistake again.
At the very least, I don't think Barry will be back before episode 2 or 3.