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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Oh god, dat preview.
Unspeakable Evil
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Run Jessie Run
Dominators.What was that ending?
Incendiary
Banned
What was that ending?
That's what I was gonna ask - that definitely wasn't Alchemy in the cell with Clariss, right?
Byronic Hero
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Good episode. I liked it more than the premiere, and Malfoy is going to be a fun character this season.
The heck was that at the end? Couldn't recognize the arm.
The heck was that at the end? Couldn't recognize the arm.
NipplesAndToes23
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I'm tired of speedster villains.
GravityInsanity
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Harrison Wells
is faster than Barry?
daughter
BLOODED_hands
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Damn, whose arm was that at the end? Can't be Doctor Alchemy's. Savitar? Speed steal causes the husk? That would be a cool effect of speed steal.
Barry gives Wally looks everytime he talks about Flashpoint lol.
Barry gives Wally looks everytime he talks about Flashpoint lol.
OdysseusVA
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Spectromixer
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I bet that -
Savitar is Dante
After so many years of training Barry still get beaten by some day ole evil speedster. yea i am tired of them.
Harrison Wells daughter is faster than Barry?
Of course. I doubt we will see Barry be as fast as Wally from the Justice League Unlimited cartoon series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIn9IaUUeco
Someone said Savitar and that would make sense.
BLOODED_hands
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Fuuu, that could be one of them. Super advanced Alien tech could penetrate Iron Heights right now.
Barry will always be depicted as slower than other speedsters. That's just the way it is right now.
If we are talking about Quick who shouldn't be able to catch up to Barry in such a short amount of time.
Can't be having Barry moving mach 20+ and evil speedster's moving mach 5+. There's just no drama to that. Speedster math, etc. done on Comic Vine and reddit have Barry at or above mach 15+. There is no way that The Rival should be catching up to Barry but here we are *shrugs*
The only one who should be faster would be Thawne or possibly Zolomon. In regards to The Rival and Doctor Alchemy's conversation, Alchemy probably amped Clariss up to or near Barry's speed.
So...I'm trying to think about it.
Did Barry's changes really affect Diggle's kid over in Arrow, too? Or are we to assume that whenever we see an Arrow character on Flash, we're just seeing that version of them in the separate world that Barry created, post-Flashpoint, and Arrow is still in the "Original" Timeline?
Could be a nice segue into why a "Crisis" will be needed. Too many different Earths!
Did Barry's changes really affect Diggle's kid over in Arrow, too? Or are we to assume that whenever we see an Arrow character on Flash, we're just seeing that version of them in the separate world that Barry created, post-Flashpoint, and Arrow is still in the "Original" Timeline?
Could be a nice segue into why a "Crisis" will be needed. Too many different Earths!
Jorok Goldblade
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They're in a Post-Flashpoint timeline. David Ramsey confirmed at Comic-Con that Flashpoint would affect Diggle, and Mericle recently stated that Flashpoint would play a role in how Katie Cassidy would return to Arrow.
If the Rival is as fast or faster than Barry why doesnt he go back in time and make some changes.
It would have been a nice change of pace if Barry was faster than the Rival and after beating him Barry says "I fought Reverse Flash and Zoom so sorry Rival you are too slow" I guess the writers of the show really wanted Cisco to help tag team Rival.
I don't know much about the character but I assumed it was Mirror Master.
I love seeing her on screen. Why do people hate Felicity so much.
OdysseusVA
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Ah, I see. Thanks for filling me in!
Well, if it means that Canary will be back sooner rather than later, all the better.
Honestly, the only loser from tonight's ep was Dante. Poor guy...
Deadstarone
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What? How?
I freaking love this show. This is season 1 levels of hype I'm feeling right now. Jay Garrick, Dr. Alchemy, The Rival, Mirror Master, Killer Frost, Vibe, Iris being great... man. So good.
Wasn't Diggle's son John Diggle, Jr who went by the name Connor Hawke/Green Arrow in that one episode of Legends?
Do not look up info on Dr. Alchemy on wikipedia, especially about Dr. Alchemy on the tv show.
Berlanti should go to the Flash writers and declare for season 4 there can be no new speedsters.
Seven Force
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I missed the episode. I'm guessing Flashpoint affected (killed?) Dante somehow?
Yes If i remember correctly.
So does that tie in with this new timeline, does this mean that this timeline is the correct one. The one with baby Sara wasn't.
Shouldn't the legends of tomorrow cast know Barry mucked up the timeline?
Deadstarone
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GIVE ME MORE. I want Johnny Quick, Max Mercury, and Bart Allen.
Jorok Goldblade
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She's supposed to be back around December/January.
Alchemy's power seems to be to turn people into a synthesis of versions from different realities, even if the "source" version is dead. Dumping Laurel's memories into Black Siren could create a character who's an awful lot closer to Comics Canary...
BLOODED_hands
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Clariss possibly doesn't know how to time travel. When we were on Flashpoint it looked like Wally didn't even know about dimensions, universes, and time travel. It's safe to assume that Clariss wouldn't know either. So far the only people who know about dimensions, universes, and time travel are S.T.A.R. Labs, Arrow and Felicity, LoT, Harrison Wells, Jesse Quick, Jay Garrick, Hunter Zolomon, and Eobard Thawne.
So why didn't Zoom do just that, travel back and murder Barry? Unlike Thawne, he doesn't know the origin of Barry. Thawne does but Thawne won't kill Barry because if he kills Barry, he kills himself. If there is no Barry, there is no speed force and no Thawne. Thawne also exists to fuck and mock Barry.
Look, I get it and I agree with your concern. Barry should be and is faster than every speedster besides Thawne but the show doesn't allow him to be when it comes down to it. It should also be more apparent since he came out of the Speed Force rejuvenated with the Speed Force energy thus amplifying his powers even more.
But if there is one thing that the show has consistently shown us is that Barry is only as fast as he is confident. The less confident he is, the slower he is. He inconsistently goes all out when fighting other speedsters where he is beating them silly or he is just a bit slower than his opponents but then finds a way to beat them via teamwork or love.
We all saw it - Rival was indeed beating him in a race until Barry decided for a shortcut. But then we saw Barry manhandle the fuck out of Zoom until he was confused and lost some confidence and Zoom destroys his shackles. Then we see Barry destroy Zoom from S2's last episode where we clearly saw Zoom beating Barry in a race. It's..... Mindblasting.
Jorok Goldblade
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Jay admitted to fucking up the timeline. It's probably his fault Supergirl is in another universe.
I just had an odd feeling that the end of the season will have
Bart Allen showing up from the future and telling Barry that he is his son and he came back in time to save "Mom"
Time is non linear so I don't know...... Speed Force
I just want Connor Hawke to be the new Arrow in the future and also why doesn't he become a member of the Justice society on legends...oh well.