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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.

shingi70

Banned
"Invasion!" is airing November 29th, 30th and December 1st.

Noice,
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Asbel

Member
Something has been bothering me. Barry says he's only known Julian for 2 weeks. Joe says Barry and Julian have been hating each other for over a year. So shouldn't there be two Barrys?
 

jb1234

Member
This script needed a few more polishes. Scene after scene fell really flat, especially during the Caitlin plot, which in true CW fashion is being dragged out. JUST TELL THEM ALREADY. I laughed out loud during the whole "dude tries to detain her" scene, which was badly written and performed. Given that she could freeze him solid, what was he really expecting here?

The monster of the week didn't really work because they didn't have the budget to showcase their creation and it didn't really end up mattering much anyway. New Wells is mostly just making me miss Earth-2 Wells but I at least appreciate that they're not going the easy route and making him evil (at least so far).

(I did like the final Julian scene, even if it did feel unrealistic that he's softened towards Barry so quickly.)
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
So the kid was bullied and then decided to create a giant hologram dinosaur monster haha, oh man. Sure, why the fuck not. Lol.

Is Barry supposed to be a sympathetic character? Because I sorta understand why someone wouldn't like him from an outsider perspective. To them he's an incompetent flake when people are trying to get work done that saves lives. Unless you know his secret, there isn't much reason to like him. He's "nice" but childish.

And then another Killer Frost stinger. This season is losing me. They're just pulling the same old tricks out of the bag.
 
So the kid was bullied and then decided to create a giant hologram dinosaur monster haha, oh man. Sure, why the fuck not. Lol.

Is Barry supposed to be a sympathetic character? Because I sorta understand why someone wouldn't like him from an outsider perspective. To them he's an incompetent flake when people are trying to get work done that saves lives. Unless you know his secret, there isn't much reason to like him. He's "nice" but childish.

And then another Killer Frost stinger. This season is losing me. They're just pulling the same old tricks out of the bag.

While I agree with those three things you mentioned I also really enjoyed HR's dumbness and Julian's speech kinda got to me too. I'm enjoying the season but not loving it.
 

Mariolee

Member
Yeah, writing was really weak this episode but the character interactions themselves were fantastic. I absolutely love what they're doing with HR. Having Wells be a klutz is incredible.

Let's take bets on who the partner is.

I'm betting
Hunter Zoloman.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
Yeah, writing was really weak this episode but the character interactions themselves were fantastic. I absolutely love what they're doing with HR. Having Wells be a klutz is incredible.

Let's take bets on who the partner is.

I'm betting
Hunter Zoloman.

For the 52nd time, there's no need to spoiler tag speculation.

Teddy Sears is a series regular on the new 24, he probably isn't back for a while.
 

Bluth54

Member
I like the new Harrison Wells.

I also liked how this episode had a giant monster even if it was a hologram, but then again I love giant monster movies.
 

Skux

Member
I really liked the Julian stuff but yeah the Caitlin stuff was just weird, it felt like filler before getting to the big reveal. The dialogue and editing just felt rushed in their scenes and killed any chance of getting attached to the emotion of the acting.
 

Magwik

Banned
This dude Nigel really thought he was gonna tell this woman that can freeze your shit in an instant what to do.
As much as the black man getting iced and making the heel turn was bullshit, I'm glad it didn't get drawn out. It was mostly there as a demonstration that she isn't as in control as she thinks. (Which is also a valid reason to not to tell anyone about)
 

strafer

member
Cool episode. But I knew Caitlins mom were going to be an asshole towards her daughter. Such a cliché.

Wells was the best though.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
I'm sad I didn't make the HR Wells/HG Wells novelist connection.

There was quite a bit of H Wells the time traveler speculation in season one. And HG Wells was actually in Legends of Tomorrow. They're not subtle about their fondness for him on these shows.
 

Joni

Member
Julian is really Draco. Tragic backstory proves it.

I'm sad I didn't make the HR Wells/HG Wells novelist connection.

There was quite a bit of H Wells the time traveler speculation in season one. And HG Wells was actually in Legends of Tomorrow. They're not subtle about their fondness for him on these shows.

Kreisberg also worked on Warehouse 13 where the scientific genius HG Wells invented stuff for her stupid brother to write about. He is now doing that HG Wells story from the point of the stupid brother.
 

caliph95

Member
While the episode is fine and nice to see more from Caitlin. I don't get why she hasn't told anyone of the Killer Frost thing. It seems just another dumb CW secrets thing than anything organic i guess thats the word. That black guy is an idiot how did he expect that to go.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
While the episode is fine and nice to see more from Caitlin. I don't get why she hasn't told anyone of the Killer Frost thing. It seems just another dumb CW secrets thing than anything organic i guess thats the word. That black guy is an idiot how did he expect that to go.

That whole thing was so fucking stupid. So this dude does a sudden heel turn and plans on forcibly running tests on her...in her mother's lab...and then locks himself inside the room after he's seen how easily she can freeze things...

I still don't understand why she isn't telling Team Flash who has experience with metahumans. Cisco is a metahuman, so they're obviously not going to automatically shun her. It makes no sense. It's really just highly manufactured drama. Caitlin is going to entrust her mom that she doesn't speak to with this knowledge before the only friends she has? Even with her mom being a specialist in cryogenics (how convenient), it doesn't ring true for her character. Going to her mom seems like a last resort move, not her first choice of action.
 

caliph95

Member
That whole thing was so fucking stupid. So this dude does a sudden heel turn and plans on forcibly running tests on her...in her mother's lab...and then locks himself inside the room after he's seen how easily she can freeze things...

I still don't understand why she isn't telling Team Flash who has experience with metahumans. Cisco is a metahuman, so they're obviously not going to automatically shun her. It makes no sense. It's really just highly manufactured drama. Caitlin is going to entrust her mom that she doesn't speak to with this knowledge before the only friends she has? Even with her mom being a specialist in cryogenics (how convenient), it doesn't ring true for her character. Going to her mom seems like a last resort move, not her first choice of action.
Especially if it has been months this has been going on. If she has a strained relationship with her mother why isn't her friends not the first people to go before her mom. This seems just contrived drama later on especially since it will change little if it wasn't a secret and the main plot will probably go the same.
 
Especially if it has been months this has been going on. If she has a strained relationship with her mother why isn't her friends not the first people to go before her mom. This seems just contrived drama later on especially since it will change little if it wasn't a secret and the main plot will probably go the same.

Cisco went a little weird on her last season after getting back form Earth 2 and thinking she was acting a little too much like Killer Frost.
 

Asbel

Member
Julian is really Draco. Tragic backstory proves it.





Kreisberg also worked on Warehouse 13 where the scientific genius HG Wells invented stuff for her stupid brother to write about. He is now doing that HG Wells story from the point of the stupid brother.
I wouldn't call running from old money tragic.
 
Yeah, writing was really weak this episode but the character interactions themselves were fantastic. I absolutely love what they're doing with HR. Having Wells be a klutz is incredible.

Let's take bets on who the partner is.

I'm betting
Hunter Zoloman.

It's also Harrison Wells. He has an identical twin on Earth-19
 
But is it equivalent to Wells taking off his glasses, then standing up?
No. It's not close, and it's not only because we had no idea who "Harrison Wells" was or what he was planning, whereas we already kind of know where Caitlin is heading; it's also because Panabaker isn't half as good at acting as Cavanagh. Like, they could still do stingers with him just klutzing around the lab, and they would be better than the Killer Frost stuff.
 
That whole thing was so fucking stupid. So this dude does a sudden heel turn and plans on forcibly running tests on her...in her mother's lab...and then locks himself inside the room after he's seen how easily she can freeze things...

I still don't understand why she isn't telling Team Flash who has experience with metahumans. Cisco is a metahuman, so they're obviously not going to automatically shun her. It makes no sense. It's really just highly manufactured drama. Caitlin is going to entrust her mom that she doesn't speak to with this knowledge before the only friends she has? Even with her mom being a specialist in cryogenics (how convenient), it doesn't ring true for her character. Going to her mom seems like a last resort move, not her first choice of action.
I feel like this plot line's drama doesn't make any sense. On Arrow
the drama between Ragman and Felicity was dealt with a surprisingly quick and easy manner.
I'm not sure what the point of dragging off Caitlin is Killer Frost is?
I'm mean most fans of this show will be the first to tell you that :p
 

Zaverious

Member
Yeah the Caitlyn ice power secret is pretty much the most unnecessary lie told across all 4 shows so far. Like the secret isn't "protecting" anyone like all the heroes seem to think they do but she'll only benefit by telling her team about it like Cisco. Only way this could get interesting is if her powers are affecting her mental state over time.
 

Broken Joystick

At least you can talk. Who are you?
As a British person, Julian's one of my favourite characters this season. Some nice development toward the end of the episode there. Felton's a good actor.
 
As a British person, Julian's one of my favourite characters this season. Some nice development toward the end of the episode there. Felton's a good actor.

With HR being basically useless, what do you think the odds are that Draco joins team Flash?

That is, if he doesn't turn out to be Alchemy or Savitar ...
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
As a British person, Julian's one of my favourite characters this season. Some nice development toward the end of the episode there. Felton's a good actor.

I dig what's going on with Julian. I hope they don't make him into an antagonist. He had a pretty nice little character moment in the newest episode.
 
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