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[Massa]

Yeah, I usually just turn off all the assists right away and spend 20 hours crashing into everything before I get gud. Probably a lot less frustrating to do it gradually

Imo that's the way to go, it's much harder getting used to the lack of assists after you've had it easy.

 

[hitgirl]

Where can I watch Formula E if I don't have cable? That double race weekend.

 

[Zeknurn]

 

[DrM]

It could bring some problems to both manufacturers, because it is known that both exploited this area before. There is some speculation that Ferrari exploited this a bit more for this season.

 

[Elvin Atombender]

The virtual safety car worked pretty good in the GP2-race. Except for Marciello who spun the car at the restart and went from third to the back somewhere.

Edit: Maybe it would be better if it went green again for everyone when they pass the finish-line or something? It's harder for those who happen to be in a curve when the track goes green again.

 

[DBT85]

It could bring some problems to both manufacturers, because it is known that both exploited this area before. There is some speculation that Ferrari exploited this a bit more for this season.

Known?

Suspected maybe.

Not sure how you can have a constant fuel rate of at least 90kgh. I must be missing something because under braking you'd want almost none.

 

[andshrew]

The virtual safety car worked pretty good in the GP2-race. Except for Marciello who spun the car at the restart and went from third to the back somewhere.

It all seemed a little clumsy? They were going at an incredibly slow speed, and then just restarting anywhere on the circuit seems to invite trouble (like the guy who instantly spun out as he accelerated through a corner)

 

[Dilly]

The virtual safety car worked pretty good in the GP2-race. Except for Marciello who spun the car at the restart and went from third to the back somewhere.

Kind of an awkward place to have a green flag though.

 

[DBT85]

It all seemed a little clumsy? They were going at an incredibly slow speed, and then just restarting anywhere on the circuit seems to invite trouble (like the guy who instantly spun out as he accelerated through a corner)

The point is that you save all the laps of waiting for the safety car to catch the leader, then the pack to bunch up, then the car to come in, while still maintaining a slow pace making it much safer to work on the track.

The drivers get a warning that the VSC is ending so if they cock up the restart that's their own problem.

 

[andshrew]

The point is that you save all the laps of waiting for the safety car to catch the leader, then the pack to bunch up, then the car to come in, while still maintaining a slow pace making it much safer to work on the track.

The drivers get a warning that the VSC is ending so if they cock up the restart that's their own problem.

I know, I'm just saying the entire process looked clumsy and the speed they were going looked borderline dangerous in terms of losing temperatures.

 

[DBT85]

I know, I'm just saying the entire process looked clumsy and the speed they were going looked borderline dangerous in terms of losing temperatures.

I've not seen it, but IIRC the VSC is supposed to be about the same speed as behind the safety car.

 

[ElTorro]

Not sure how you can have a constant fuel rate of at least 90kgh. I must be missing something because under braking you'd want almost none.

It's really weird, especially because the exploit is supposed to work such that you are always pumping more fuel than you need out of the tank and into a secondary buffer tank. The rule does not seem to prevent any exploitation at all. There must be some catch.

 

[DBT85]

It's really weird, especially because the exploit is supposed to work such that you are always pumping more fuel than you need out of the tank and into a secondary buffer tank. The rule does not seem to prevent any exploitation at all. There must be some catch.

The only thing I can think is that they are talking about using the data from the actual injectors rather than the fuel flow sensor.

 

[Zeknurn]

Adam Cooper's analysis on why the FIA acted on the fuel-flow rate and how teams could be bending the rules
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analysis-why-the-fia-has-acted-on-fuel-flow-rates

Hockenheim has secured its 2016 GP
http://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/74871/Hockenheim-2016-gesichert-e28093-GP-Fans-atmen-auf.html

 

[DBT85]

Adam Cooper's analysis on why the FIA acted on the fuel-flow rate and how teams could be bending the rules
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analysis-why-the-fia-has-acted-on-fuel-flow-rates

Hockenheim has secured its 2016 GP
http://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/74871/Hockenheim-2016-gesichert-e28093-GP-Fans-atmen-auf.html

It's understood that the FIA doesn't believe that anyone is actually currently bending the rules, especially after the issue was highlighted in testing. However, this latest move is clearly intended to ensure that it cannot occur, and put a stop to any suspicions from rivals.

So they don't think anyone is doing it, but other teams do.

 

[Mastah]

I've not seen it, but IIRC the VSC is supposed to be about the same speed as behind the safety car.

It certainly wasn't, they were over 40 seconds slower than GP3 under SC yesterday in sector 1 alone, so there was something wrong with delta time.

 

[DBT85]

Fuck me, were they getting out and pushing?

 

[Mastah]

Haha, almost.

 

[aspiegamer]

Not sure how you can have a constant fuel rate of at least 90kgh.

From what I got out of the article, they're looking for a constant rate under full throttle, ie when teams may or may not have been getting a small kick out of some trick plumbing around the sensor. If it stays steady it means there's no period of over/underpumping which may or may not give the alleged advantage.

Sounds sort of like the opposite of the engine over/underrun that kept the throttle partially open during the blown diffuser years; only this is temporarily holding back that fuel for a moment for a little burst instead of continuing to force it through abnormally which temporarily lowered torque for some extra grip coming out of corners. RBR had this down to an art form.

Disclaimer: Tales from my ass. I'm no engineer. I'd still prefer they axe fuel rates entirely during the actual races and let the teams figure out how to best use the 100kg.

 

[Shaneus]

I just watched the tail end of the qualifying then... holy shit, what are RBR doing that STR can smash them in quali? Ugh.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

BILD says Hammy wants a 3yr contract / 200m paid in US dollars, wants to keep the car after each season.

LOL, any truth to these claims Hammer?

 

[ChubbleDucks]

Cmon Lewis.

Button/Alonso points finish?

 

[Zeknurn]

I just watched the tail end of the qualifying then... holy shit, what are RBR doing that STR can smash them in quali? Ugh.

Toro Rosso have far better drivers.

 

[massivekettle]

BILD says Hammy wants a 3yr contract / 200m paid in US dollars, wants to keep the car after each season.

LOL, any truth to these claims Hammer?

I think it's €67m/yr paid in $ (so, actually more $, given €>$).

But, as I understand, most drivers are actually paid in USD so this is not contentious.

 

[Zeknurn]

Who's doing a Maldonado avatar bet this weekend?

Here are some suggestions:
Kimi podium
German Jesus win
Lewis DNF
McLaren points
Maldonado finishes a race

 

[Jibbed]

I think Crofty's finally lost his mind. He just described Catalunya as "the vindaloo of F1 curries". I don't even..

Hamilton is gonna walk this, Vettel or Kimi P2.

 

[massivekettle]

Anyone know how to get air and track temperature on the F1 app?

 

[Blablurn]

Lets go Vettel

 

[mclem]

Hamilton is gonna walk this, Vettel or Kimi P2.

What, so Rosberg fourth, assuming he finishes? Brave.

 

[massivekettle]

Lewis reporting a lot of understeer still...

 

[Jibbed]

What, so Rosberg fourth, assuming he finishes? Brave.

Rosberg DNF.

 

[massivekettle]

Slowest warmup lap ever...

 

[Juicy Bob]

YES NICO

 

[TCRS]

yes vettel!

terrible start by hamilton.

 

[Lemonte]

Good first lap for kimi again.

 

[Kyougar]

nice start from Vettel and Raikönnen

 

[Juicy Bob]

Everyone hates Borecelona

 

[Zeknurn]

All aboard the Sains train

 

[Jibbed]

Maldonado crash incoming, 10 laps at most.

 

[massivekettle]

Lewis is so slow through the third sector compared to Rosberg. Probably has a lot of understeer.

 

[Zeknurn]

Grosjean's car has given up.

 

[mclem]

I remember Coulthard in a Superman cape when they were promoting Returns. Can we have Maldonado in a battered leather jacket, please?

 

[Kyougar]

Tell me grosjean, where did pastor touch you?

 

[mclem]

Tell me grosjean, where did pastor touch you?

In the Thunderdome.

 

[Gareth Bale]

Lewis might struggle to pass Vettel with those sector 3 times.

 

[Jibbed]

Jeez, Toro Rossos are basically stood still on the straights.

 

[Zeknurn]

Jeez, Toro Rossos are basically stood still on the straights.

Webber was seen in the Toro Rosso garage yesterday.

 

[Risgroo]

Go Pasta!

 

[Jibbed]

Maldonado's rear wing just failed as he passed Verstappen.

 

[GrimmGrinn]

Pasta!