From what I gather it's an interesting concept with some really clever ideas, but the core gameplay (chases) is severely lacking.
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From what I gather it's an interesting concept with some really clever ideas, but the core gameplay (chases) is severely lacking.
How could it be any worse than the gameplay in those old SH games?
NoirVisage
Banned
seriously dude?
WrenchNinja
Member
Because there is no tension in the game. It's not a horror game when you know what to expect, when they split off exploring and chase sequences so clearly. You stop caring.
Oh, they break it out like that? That's a little weird.
Typographenia
Member
You can't completely trust anything anyone says when it comes to Silent Hill. The variety amongst the games and the people that enjoy them is too diverse to be able to base a truly stable opinion on. You just have to pick your poison and see if you like it.
That said, SH:SM is both the most interesting and most disappointing experiment with the Silent Hill games. The degree to which you will be able to enjoy the game largely hinges on your experience and knowledge of the first title. It's great in that sense, because it plays upon your preconceptions of events, locations, and characters that you don't really see commonly in gaming. However, it's unfortunate that it requires such a thing going into it, because the original games are viewed as "oh-so-holy" that you mustn't even utter anything against it, so it alienated a lot of players off the bat. Newer players aren't able to appreciate the game as much as they would, were they familiar with the original game in the series.
I'd much rather have them trying new approaches to SH games rather than regurgitating 1 or 3 over and over, but whatever.
(lawl, SM and SH1 the irony!)
Felix Lighter
Member
The Witcher never loses. Wait what are you doing. Kill him.
funkystudent
Member
Yep, WD, Botanicula and TNT. Prototype 2 is more of a Jeff&Brad thing.
You're forgetting Gary Whitta.
Didn't they already do a QL EX with Garry for this game?
One is probably going to be Patrick/Patrick with Patrick just responding to dialogue he recorded earlier in the day.
Well that's one Patrick QL down...
Everything but the facial animation in this game looks great. But that facial animation is so very bad it just takes me out of the moment. It's Dreamworks bad.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Pat
"You can't keep making the same point and click adventure games forever."
They are based on story, setting, character and puzzles. If those are diffident then it's not the same game.
Anyone else think that Patrick just doesn't get what people actually like about QLs? He keeps blabbering about the game as if he's reading from a script whereas Jeff & Vinny just play the game like a normal person would. I've had to stop watching the Silent Hill and Walking Dead QLs about a quarter of the way through each because I just can't stand it, when I'm normally able to make it through all the way even if I don't care about the game but just leave the video playing on another tab.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Listing to the Silent Hill QL (while playing BF3) it did seem more like a segment from the Bombcast.
I feel like he just complains a lot about games. Maybe he doesn't but it's the only thing my brain retains about Patrick focused quick looks. But yes I have found myself not finishing Patrick quick looks and I don't even hate the guy like so many people do for whatever reason, just wish he would stop talking about all the negatives or over-explaining every little detail about something.
I do wish he'd do a bit less research sometimes. Being prepared is good, but I don't necessarily want to see these guys explain a game to me point by point with opinions completely fleshed out. I want to see their impressions in real time as much as possible. If that means somebody gets stuck for 5 minutes or forgets to show off some mechanic that makes people rage so be it - the unanticipated stuff in QL's is often the most entertaining.
I'm pretty sure that's the reason he's on the QL's, he does some research so he has something to talk about when it comes to the games. I just don't find him very engaging and he really doesn't play off the other guys too well in my opinion.
I think he actually tries to act professional, do research on games, and then explain it while doing QLs. So yeah, I guess he isn't doing what the fans want, which is mostly joking around and being funny.
base shagohod
Member
Hey guys, does anybody get the impression that Ryan likes Vinny? Been listening to some older podcasts the past week or so and it seems like he's really friendly towards him.
Maybe I'm just imagining things.
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Whoops, to stay on topic, Trick is great for horror game QLs, but I don't really enjoy his presence in any others.
Maybe I'm just imagining things.
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Whoops, to stay on topic, Trick is great for horror game QLs, but I don't really enjoy his presence in any others.
vitaminwateryum
corporate swill
He's just got a different style of doing them then the other guys do. Ryan for example tends to go through the menus and make sure the other person sees all the other stuff before hopping in. Brad / Jeff / Vinny on the other hand tend to just hop right in.
Everyone likes Vinny.
Who doesn't?
What a strange thing to note.
Broder Salsa
Banned
I really liked that he actually pointed out the terrible things in SH collection, cause it can easily be missed when watching the video or you could think it was just the flash player messing up or whatever. Same with the whole fog thing. It annoys me when he is wrong and sounds like whatever he's saying is a fact though...The Silent hill quicklooks has been king of painful in that regard.
You are right, Ryan quite clearly wants Vinny, can see him getting jealous with the baby and all though. All that buttering him up and he goes on to have a baby with some women.
You are right, Ryan quite clearly wants Vinny, can see him getting jealous with the baby and all though. All that buttering him up and he goes on to have a baby with some women.
I want that to happen just to infuriate everyone.
Demon babies. Also regular babies.
Typographenia
Member
The QL of Walking Dead pretty much sold me on the games. I wasn't terribly interested before, since I'm not familiar with the tv show or the graphic novel, but what I saw looked really fun. I think I'll probably wait for the entire thing to release before buying, but definitely interested in playing it.
That sounds like it would actually be super hilarious and is actually what I would like. Unfortunately by posting this here it's 99% guaranteed that it will never be done.
base shagohod
Member
I said it jokingly, making fun of the people who always ask if one guy doesn't like another guy in the gang.
I meant to post it in the main Giant Bomb thread though :\
It's really good.
I don't mean to call you out, it's just weird to me.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Watching walking dead quicklook and yeah that looks pretty cool. But my God that ugly ass cursor thing annoys me, way way more than it should.
Typographenia
Member
I don't know if it affects the cursor at all, but it did have that HUD thing in the options menu. Maybe it makes it more minimal?
LOL, those facial animations are worthy of The Sims games. I was laughing all along.
"Hey Jeff, what makes you so great?"
No. It fades away if you are not moving the right stick/mouse though.
I think I figured out why Patrick has started annoying me in these.
Other Quick Lookers will at least stop for a second and look/listen/pay attention to what's happening in the game and then talk about stuff in between, while Patrick NEVER STOPS TALKING and barely pays attention.
Other Quick Lookers will at least stop for a second and look/listen/pay attention to what's happening in the game and then talk about stuff in between, while Patrick NEVER STOPS TALKING and barely pays attention.
Felix Lighter
Member
It's probably difficult to pay attention and do a quick look at the same time but, I think you're right. He should probably work on that a bit. I only really get aggravated when he isn't paying attention to what is going on but then blames the game for not explaining things.
Yeah, no one ever complains about Brad 'Let the record show' Shoemaker not paying attention.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Personally I like how Giantbomb has a range of personalities who do each segment in their own unique ways. I enjoy Patrick quicklooks just as much as everyone else's. I learn so much!
Me too. But I agree on the running around bit. It annoyed me a bit in the Witcher 2 QL as he never stopped, just run in circles - so Patrick if you read this, let the game sit for a few moments if you have to say something (which I enjoy!).