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The GREATEST Movie Debate of ALL-TIME™: SUPERHERO EDITION! THIS IS IT -- THE BIG ONE!

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Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Well, I like the first X-Men, the first Spider-Man, the real Batman and The Incredibles better than any of those films, but as they're not on there for stupid reasons, I'm going to vote for Unbreakable out of spite so the others lose.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Mama Smurf said:
Well, I like the first X-Men, the first Spider-Man, the real Batman and The Incredibles better than any of those films, but as they're not on there for stupid reasons, I'm going to vote for Unbreakable out of spite so the others lose.

It's almost unanimous that X2 and Spider-Man 2 are better than the originals. And almost everyone agrees that Mask of the Phantasm is - by far! - the best representation of Batman. So other than The Incredibles, which I won't list until everyone has a fair shot to see it, you don't have any real reason to gripe.

THE SCORE - Updated!

Spider-Man 2 = 13
X2: X-Men United = 5
Unbreakable = 20
Superman = 5
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm = 11
Darkman = 2
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
karasu said:

All the movies listed scored significantly higher save for Unbreakable, which was granted a slot because of its huge following and praise once it hit video.

And judging by votes, it was correctly put on the list.

I like Hellboy. I friggin' love Hellboy. It's in my Top 10 of 2004. But you won't get a good majority of the forum to agree that it deserves a spot up there in the list. You'll get a bunch, but you'll also get a lot of people who said "meh" or "boo".
 

Shinobi

Member
Prospero said:
Honorable mention for Darkman. "See the dancing freak! Just five bucks!"

:lol Good to see there are at least a few Darkman fans on the board.





Celicar said:
Batman, not the shitty cartoon, the movie with Michael Keaton. That rocked. Why the hell is that not on the list? Beh.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol






Foreign Jackass said:
Burton's Batman is so overrated by comic fanboys it's not even funny. Most Burton flicks feel like props shows anyway. Hey lookie here, we've got a weird hair-do and weird accessories! Hahaha how clever! His mannerisms are gettin' old, fast. He gotta find a good story, and a better one than that ok "storytelling homage or stupid story filled with lies" Big Fish.

Preach...fuck Burton.







COCKLES said:
I vote Superman. Although I'd prefer Superman 2 - if only for ZOD. When the f**k are we going to get a Donner Director cut with his footage returned?

I would love to see that, but I doubt it'll ever happen. Though I like Superman 2 a lot as is. And Zod might be the greatest screen villan of all time.





MmmBeef said:
Ding ding! We have a winnah!

Although I may be biased against it, since my first day of work at a movie theater was during the opening fucking weekend of Batman. You've never seen such a collection of greasy, overweight, black t-shirt wearing, large bucket of popcorn and giant diet-coke swilling scum and villainy in once place before. Not only was the stench bad, I had to clean up after them.

:lol :lol :lol Look on the bright side...at least you won't be working the theatre when Episode 3 drops.

My vote is pretty obvious...Mask of the Phantasm is the best comic-based movie I've ever seen, the best animated movie I've ever seen, and is simply one of the best movies I've ever seen of any type. So many great scenes...Batman's first mission before he became Batman, the first view of the Batmobile (persay), the first time he puts on the mask and turns around (still sends chills up my spine), the full precint chase over the skyscrapers, the scenes with the Joker...it's a near-perfect movie. And Border's on point about the music...was lucky enough to find it used at a store a couple weeks ago after searching for it for years, and it's just brilliant.


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And with all that said, I'm not sure that Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker doesn't match or beat it. But I wanna watch that a few more times before I say for sure.

Second is Superman, which I feel is better then the first movie, though not by a huge margin. I think it was a bit tighter, had fewer rough edges, not surprising considering the circumstances surrounding Superman 2 that Cockles touched upon. Gene Hackman was just hilarious as Lex, as was Reeves' version of Clark Kent.

Third is Darkman, the movie that first showed me just how poor Burton's Batman flick was. Equally dark with far less filler and nonsensical tripe. The way Darkman used his hideout during the battle with Durant's gang was very reminiscint of the Bat, and very well done. Still need to cop this DVD.

Fourth on that list is Spider-Man 2. Despite it's flaws, it captured the spirit of the character and universe incredibly well, and the first two Spidey/Doc Ock battles were just terrific (though again, flawed).

And X2 is fifth, partly due to merit, and partly because I've only seen it once when it was at the theatre. Gotta get this on DVD at some point...bought X-Men 1.5 for ten bucks at a Best Buy sale a couple weeks ago, so I might as well complete the set.

Never seen Unbreakable, so I have no comment on it.
 

etiolate

Banned
Burton's Batman is better than all six of those films. Yeah, you heard me haters* BURTON ROCKS. Unbreakable is a fucking gimmick movie. Lalala, I have some neat characters, an interesting plot developing, and a good pace. I wonder how will the main character handle his situation and a...THROW IN TWIST ENDING BAMMO I AM M NIGHT SHAMALAMADINGDONG. Fuck you.

So I vote X-men 2.






*Shinobi
 

boutrosinit

Street Fighter IV World Champion
I'm stunned so many people like that heap of crap Unbreakable.

M Night Shamofamockeryofasham gives you a great buildup, and a great idea, only to spunk his load in a pathetic dribble and leave you going...

WHAT?!?!?! TEH FUCK!!!???!!!

Props to the guy for doing something different, but the ending needed more impact I feel. instead it was just some dumb guy looking for his opposite.

He blew his load too soon. SIGNS was done better IMO, but the ending in SIGNS was *even* lamer.

As for this thread, it is useless without:

- The original Tim Burton Batman
- Blade
- Spawn (not may fave, but others like it)

Please rectify this Wilco.
 
I like most of TIm Burton's movie (I even enjoyed Planet of the Apes for what it was)-- but Batman was not good.

It was amazing on first viewing, but a second or third viewing shows just how sloppy and lame it is. And Kim Bassinger hurts it a lot.

Batman Returns, however, is great. The camp is all well done, the action is much better, and Michelle Pfeiffer >>>>>>>> Kim Bassinger.
 
Haven't read the thread yet, but:

BATMAN: MASK OF THE MOTHERFUCKIN PHANTASM.

The only superhero film that's better is The Incredibles, but that wasn't listed.


However, I do have a soft spot for the original Superman film as well.

So,

Batman: MOTP > Spider-Man 2
Superman > Darkman
Unbreakable > X2
 

Shinobi

Member
etiolate said:
Burton's Batman is better than all six of those films. Yeah, you heard me haters* BURTON ROCKS. Unbreakable is a fucking gimmick movie. Lalala, I have some neat characters, an interesting plot developing, and a good pace. I wonder how will the main character handle his situation and a...THROW IN TWIST ENDING BAMMO I AM M NIGHT SHAMALAMADINGDONG. Fuck you.

So I vote X-men 2.






*Shinobi

Your idiotic claims falls on deaf ears. And most people who've watched the Burton Batman flick anytime in the last five years (as opposed to not seeing it in the last 15 years where the mind isn't clouded with nolstalga) knows it's a medicore movie. That's just the way it is Jack.

The Incredibles is an interesting choice as well...I wanna watch it a few more times before I decide where I put it, but it was a really cool take on the super hero.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
THE SCORE - Updated!

Spider-Man 2 = 15
X2: X-Men United = 6
Unbreakable = 21
Superman = 6
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm = 15
Darkman = 2
 

etiolate

Banned
Shinobi said:
Your idiotic claims falls on deaf ears. And most people who've watched the Burton Batman flick anytime in the last five years (as opposed to not seeing it in the last 15 years where the mind isn't clouded with nolstalga) knows it's a medicore movie. That's just the way it is Jack.

:lol

I've watched Batman plenty of times in the more recent history of my life. It still gives me a kick when the Joker pulls that ridiculous gun out of his pants.
 

fallout

Member
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm for me. Next would probably be Unbreakable, then X2.

Spiderman 2 ... I don't know what it was, but I just loathed it. Always enjoyed the comics and the cartoon though. There was just something about the movie that didn't sit well with me. Okay, not so much "didn't sit well" as "made me want to tear my stomach out and wrap it around my head to choke myself with."
 
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