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The Kiseki / Trails (of the Sky/Zero/Ao/Sen/Etc) Community Thread: SPOILERTAGS OR DIE
- Thread starter Bebpo
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Zero is my favorite game in the series so far (haven't played Cold Steel yet) and I am happy you are enjoying.
However, if you haven't already, play the 3rd first. It makes the setup for a few plot lines that are connected to Zero/Ao.
Has there been any news since the creator's anti-XSeed tirade?
Young Magus
Junior Member
Dude asked for a series-fan to check with continuity..........
after he did the patch and due to themeselves not playing the before and after games.
Nightengale
Member
ducky pls. It's all about Noel and her wholesome arsenal
Two new ones. The Zero ones are about a Remiferian backalley doctor helping corrupted politicians for massive amounts of money. The Ao one is called Sunny Side Agnes, which takes places in Calvard. It's about a frustrated journalist called Edwin Arnolds.
clay_ghost
Member
Suddenly realized how weak class 7 as compared to even
Class 7
:/
the SSS team.
Could barely Duvalie , while the SSS won against Duvalie who went all out in Ao unless i remember wrongly
:/
Shouta
Member
Ao is the second game in the series.. CS1/CS2 technically is the first right now. Even the heroes in Zero/Ao couldn't keep up with anyone in Zero, lol.
Probably stuff with (CS2 End Spoilers)
the annexation of Crossbell, fighting off Calvard, what the hell is Osborne really, what is Oroboros' retaliation going to be for Osborne taking over the Phantasmal Blaze plan (which presumably would garner the Sept-terrion of fire), will the Grandmaster show up, what exactly was the Shadow Trial why was it sealed in the first place and what else is going to show up as a result of the events @ the Infernal Tower, what are the giant knights like the one in Nord, what's up with Western Erebonia, aftermath of the war and shift in power balances in Erebonia, the rebuilding of the Bracer guild in Erebonia, what really happened to St. Sandlot, why is the Rose Door in Loengrin inactive (since it wasn't a shrine, was there a Divine Knight there once?), what happens to a Divine Knight after it's awakener dies,
I imagine my questions will only grow exponentially after playing 3rd.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
CS2 certainly did raise a lot of questions, didn't it? Some more minor questions:
What happens to Ordine now that its Awakener is gone - does it get a new one? Why did Ouroboros want Valimar and Ordine to fight?
Scrooge McDuck
Member
To answer one of those questions, Celine explicitly said that
there was indeed a Divine Knight in Lohengrin Castle once.
Hopefully
Ordine doesn't die or something. What a waste of a voice actor if so.
That's what I figured. I was wondering since
Dreichels piloted Valimar, what if Sandlot has/had one too? ... Being from that era and all. The whole thing about her not being dead and Zephyr trying to bring back the boss raise a hell of a lot of questions about presumably dead people being alive.
Like I mentioned, when an Awakener dies, what happens to their Divine Knight? Since the trial is necessary to pilot one (I presume anyways), do they get resealed and a new Awakener fights Loa Erebonius? Does it have to be recovered/resealed ala Valimar in the Old Schoolhouse by a Hexen Clan member to facilitate the system? What is the full system? Additionally, we only know for sure that Valimar and the Vermillion Apocalyspe/Testarossa have been active in a previous conflict, iirc.
Like I mentioned, when an Awakener dies, what happens to their Divine Knight? Since the trial is necessary to pilot one (I presume anyways), do they get resealed and a new Awakener fights Loa Erebonius? Does it have to be recovered/resealed ala Valimar in the Old Schoolhouse by a Hexen Clan member to facilitate the system? What is the full system? Additionally, we only know for sure that Valimar and the Vermillion Apocalyspe/Testarossa have been active in a previous conflict, iirc.
I wanna know every bit and detail about these little and big things soooooo baaaaaaddddd.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
English language game spoilers
That's my big one. It involved raising Testarossa, The Ferrari Knight, playing a ton of factions against each other to recreate the Lion War, and very specifically NOT having awakener Cedric take the controls.
It's alot less...specific than Weissman's plan, though we do only know the set-up, not the goals.
It's alot less...specific than Weissman's plan, though we do only know the set-up, not the goals.
If you haven't already, make sure you give NG+ a spin for its exclusive quest. It delves much deeper into these matters and sets the stage for CS3.
I'm giving myself a little breathing room before my NG+ run, but i'm 100% going to be playing through it again by the end of this year for sure (will likely do platinum as well).
Glad to know that NG+ has some more answers for me and i'm looking forward to it!
afreaknamedpete
Member
CS1 endgame spoilers:
What the hell, apparently an entire's month of plot takes place offscreen? A vacation to Ymir? An audience with the Emperor? I'd rather play that than more drudging along in mines or doing MORE fetch quests.
It's likely material they wrote, planned, and then had to cut later in development. It seems quite obvious that
the entire Ymir part at the very least was meant to have been part of the game. They included a Drama CD in the Japanese version, which XSEED has translated here: http://www.trailsofcoldsteel.com/cs2/memoirs1.html and it's pretty long. It would have been a mini-field study at Ymir, Towa would probably have been a playable character, and while fighting the boss Rean would have gotten his upgraded S-Craft. In fact, there are a bunch of events in the Drama CD which are directly referenced multiple times in Cold Steel 2, so it had to have been a major actual part of the game at some point.
I'm glad I started over on normal after failing to get through the prologue on hard. Made it much more doable. Everything outside the prologue is a lot easier but I'm fine with that.
Also, Estelle is still the best
I just finished chapter 2 of SC. The fight scene between
was pretty badass and surprisingly well choreographed.
Btw, I've looked ahead a bit and saw that there are
chapters. Can anyone spoil me on how long SC keeps up the
shtick? I mean, it's better than
Also, Estelle is still the best
I just finished chapter 2 of SC. The fight scene between
Cassius and Julia
Btw, I've looked ahead a bit and saw that there are
9
"Ouroboros member experiments with Gospel shit, we come in to stop it and proceed to get wrecked by said member"
having an actual hard-fought boss battle and at the end having them go "lol nice try" but it's still annoying to see every Ouroboros member just eclipse you in power.
Technically, the last one of those chapters is chapter 5. But chapter 5 doesn't feel too much like the previous chapters due to stuff.
Overall, those chapter are pretty slow-paced indeed, but they always end on a high and hype af note.
Going from CS --- > TiTS has been an amusing experience so far. So many continuity nods and callbacks (callforwards?). Already immediately intrigued by Joshua's character since (CS1 stuff)
Sharon seems to know him?
Strega sneakers are basically the Zemurian equivalent of Air Jordans.
Going from CS --- > TiTS has been an amusing experience so far. So many continuity nods and callbacks (callforwards?). Already immediately intrigued by Joshua's character since (CS1 stuff)Sharon seems to know him?
Strega sneakers are basically the Zemurian equivalent of Air Jordans.
Awesome little wrinkle in the fiction. You playing this on PC? Moonlight will be happy! ^_^/
Nose Master
Member
Does CS get any better? I'm at
and it's just... Boring. I've started circle skipping all the dialogue outside of the main cs, and even some of those. They linger so long on plot points that were shit to begin with. Do you really need ten hours+ for
I don't think anything of consequence has happened in the plot at all, just awful anime tropes dragged out like a Family Guy punchline.
I loved Sky, and CS is bumming me out.
the town with different districts connected via tram
"he fell and touched my boob, I hate him!" And "I don't like this Jaeger because reasons!"
I loved Sky, and CS is bumming me out.
Yup. I feel right at home playing this since so it's so similar to CS (like, i'm genuinely surprised that cooking was a thing back then). The battle theme is super catchy.
Mostly convenience. I go fullscreen when I just want to play, though
I have a simple question for all the Kiseki fiends out there.
I noticed that in my playthrough of Zero (in Japanese) that the monsters in Kiseki games are not called "monsters" using any traditional Japanese naming, but are instead given a unique name (魔獣 which essentially means "magic creatures" or "spirit beasts", etc.
I never noticed in my JP playthrough of CS2 because I was too busy combat-stomping everything to care about ingredients and recipes (which I'm paying attention to in Zero).
Does this have... any implications on the overall story or is it just a novelty thing to make your average field monster sound cooler? Monsters in Kiseki are kind of weird, they explode when you kill them either in a puff or a magical blast, they're "attracted to sepith" (they basically have sepith hanging off of them) which is already kind of suspicious due to what we know about how they interact with sepith veins (SC), and now they have a unique name which says that they are spawned from magic directly.
And when I played CS2 I don't even remember if there was a story justification for the cryptids appearing magically out of thin air. In b4 "it's magic I don't have to explain shit dot jay peg"
tl;dr got any fun story stuff about monsters from all this to talk about?
If he's playing on an old CRT monitor I'll give him a +1.
EDIT: +1 denied. But I do play some games windowed for convenience so I understand.
I noticed that in my playthrough of Zero (in Japanese) that the monsters in Kiseki games are not called "monsters" using any traditional Japanese naming, but are instead given a unique name (魔獣
which essentially means "magic creatures" or "spirit beasts", etc.I never noticed in my JP playthrough of CS2 because I was too busy combat-stomping everything to care about ingredients and recipes (which I'm paying attention to in Zero).
Does this have... any implications on the overall story or is it just a novelty thing to make your average field monster sound cooler? Monsters in Kiseki are kind of weird, they explode when you kill them either in a puff or a magical blast, they're "attracted to sepith" (they basically have sepith hanging off of them) which is already kind of suspicious due to what we know about how they interact with sepith veins (SC), and now they have a unique name which says that they are spawned from magic directly.
And when I played CS2 I don't even remember if there was a story justification for the cryptids appearing magically out of thin air. In b4 "it's magic I don't have to explain shit dot jay peg"
tl;dr got any fun story stuff about monsters from all this to talk about?
If he's playing on an old CRT monitor I'll give him a +1.
EDIT: +1 denied. But I do play some games windowed for convenience so I understand.
It does in the very end, or maybe I should say in the sequel because they really are just one game separated in two (and stretched to 70 hrs each with bloat).
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but with the Trails of the Sky series, on Japan's PSN, FC and SC are now on sale.
Is there a preference between the PSP and Vita games? I have all the PSP games on PSplus, so whenever I have time to play them I'm thinking of just renewing my subscription, but if the Vita games are better, I may spend the money on them.
Is there a preference between the PSP and Vita games? I have all the PSP games on PSplus, so whenever I have time to play them I'm thinking of just renewing my subscription, but if the Vita games are better, I may spend the money on them.
On other hand, we never got to experience this scene:
So it may have been a blessing in disguise.
Zero and Ao Evo are 50% off as well if anyone was curious. I forgot to pick then up last time they were, little over 5100yen for both.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Sprites >>> 3D
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Those sprites are pre-rendered 3D, though, yar? I think it's a wash.
"Of course I'm the best! I'm her father!"
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Yeah, those are pre-rendered and incredibly ugly to boot. People just forget about them because the character portraits are decent.
Noob question about the series because it seems interesting. Which game should I start at in order. Are they connected and is the a big High School setting. The High School setting is something I loath. The only series I able to tolerate it is the Persona series otherwise I have a hard time playing them.
Play them in the order of Sky FC > Sky SC > Sky 3rd (if it's out by then; coming Spring 2017) > Cold Steel > Cold Steel II.
The only game that has the high school setting is Cold Steel 1, and I thought it was handled very well.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Cold Steel 1 has a school setting. That's part of the reason I've put off playing it.
No reason not to start with the Trails in the Sky games, then Cold Steel.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Those portraits are ON POINT, sir!
TiTS: Hey here's a map
Me: Thanks
Me: Oh It's useless
***
It's not the end of the world, but damn what a hassle
Me: Thanks
Me: Oh It's useless
***
It's not the end of the world, but damn what a hassle
Don't be like me, I didn't realize until halfway through FC that holding down SHIFT will tell you which direction the exits are... (at least I figured out that hitting V brings up the local map).
I just realized I have no idea what the controller buttons are for map direction and usage...
SatelliteOfLove
Member
I am legitimately so glad I made that avatar, but it's took too long to get quoted.
If you were fine with it in Persona, then the same will likely be the case for Cold Steel, as there are similarities.
I initially thought he was a little boring as a character but I ended up liking him (in the end of Ao though). Randy and Tio are top tier characters though.
Don't be like me, I didn't realize until halfway through FC that holding down SHIFT will tell you which direction the exits are... (at least I figured out that hitting V brings up the local map).
"Not everyone plays on keyboard!"
I just realized I have no idea what the controller buttons are for map direction and usage...
Thanks.
Also it must be nice being able to understand Japanese. I want to play the Crossbell games so bad after CS2...
Young Magus
Junior Member
Cool,
I know that they both have patches. Are there any useful things to come out from them?