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The Mass Effect Community Thread
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Smart people live in the real world and adjust expectations when facts change. A lot has changed in one year and therefore expectations have to change.
At this time last year, we had no idea on when MEA was coming and therefore a "when" on the release on an ME trilogy was merely guessing, but I am fairly certain that smart people agreed that it would make most sense to release the ME trilogy some time before MEA came out, which we now know is being targeted for Winter 2016. Now that we have that information, it makes more sense to look at the business side and determine that IF (yes, if) EA wants to rerelease the ME trilogy for current gen systems that it would make most sense to release it as a way to market with MEA. If the release date for MEA holds then it would make most sense to release an ME trilogy early/mid next year to build up hype for MEA. Similar to what Sony did for Uncharted, God of War (from the PS3 era) and what MS did with Halo. As such, N7 day is a good day to make an announcement IF an ME trilogy were to come. E3 is the absolute latest I would expect an announcement IF the ME trilogy were to get rereleased. Will it happen? I don't know, but if it doesn't happen by E3 2016 then I am firmly in the boat of its not coming, much to the disappointment of diaspora and Bisnic since I know they love to be negative nannies every time it's mentioned.
I am well aware of what an EA rep said, in that they are focusing on new titles. But I am also aware of countless numerous examples of reps saying one thing and doing the other, so I take what they say with a slight grain of salt. I am also aware of thr numerous tweets from Bioware reps.
EA literally said they're focusing on new titles, any hope for a remaster at this point is both delusional and a little sad.
Edit: The best part is comparing EA to other companies. Yeah, sure, what company is using entirely first party engines and randomly releasing an old title on a 3rd party engine?
Edit: The best part is comparing EA to other companies. Yeah, sure, what company is using entirely first party engines and randomly releasing an old title on a 3rd party engine?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't think it's happening, at least not any time soon. I firmly believe EA does indeed want to focus on new games over ports, and this would be doubly true for Mass Effect where Andromeda is supposed to kick off the series in a new direction and I can imagine they want to do so without the baggage of fan adoration for Shepard hanging around. Not to mention if the UE3 license has indeed lapsed they'd either have to renew or port it over to Frostbite 3, which would be a significant undertaking and I doubt the manpower is available.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You can think what you want. I get it, EA tells us that the remaster isn't coming. That is 100% confirmation for you. Fine. By all means. I give it 50% confirmation.
As for your comment about having no history. Yes, its true that EA has not dipped into the remaster game. However, prior to march of this year Take 2 (Borderlands), Bethesda (Dishonored) and Activision (godawful Prototype) hadn't either. Thus things can change.
However, you should really stop being a douchebag towards other people having a rational discussion about why something may not quite be off the cards. I have given my reasons and my opinion those are solid reasons to believe it may not be completely off the table. People on this page WANT this remaster. Many of them want it badly. It's frequently demanded in every remaster discussion. I see many members giving up and saying it's not coming and all I am doing is providing some reasons to suggest its not quite as hopeless.
At the end of the day, neither what you or I think matters. It will either come or it will not come. Life will go on regardless.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I see you say this a lot and I really don't understand how that could possibly hurt ME:A in any way if the ME trilogy were re-released. The ME series is a critically acclaimed series and has a ton of high ratings. While its true that many people were disappointed with ME3 (especially the ending) I seriously doubt that many who were upset won't at least give ME:A some consideration.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
It's not the acclaim, it's the infatuation with Commander Shepard and the series association with that particular trilogy combined with the fairly drastic changes we're apparently going to see with Andromeda. Andromeda seems to be basically treating the trilogy events and ending as baggage, and will do whatever it can to distance itself from the canon every fan is most familiar with, without directly conflicting with it.
It's not really a criticism on the quality of Mass Effect, so much that Mass Effect as we know it has been all about Shepard, and Andromeda is not only the complete opposite but an entirely new setting as well. I feel in terms of marketing a new product, one that EA no doubt intend to be successful and a new direction for the franchise, they'll want to keep it in the focus and avoid muddying the waters with a trilogy port.
Not that I personally think it would be a big deal, just that in marketing the franchise's future they'd want to keep the old stuff in the past.
The Artisan
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I don't really get that or see that in the people I know that like the series. I mean, Shepard was just an avatar. You designed him/her yourself and it was cool you got to take him/her across three games. Exactly the same can happen with a new game, new protag, as long as they give the option of a face editor and get a half-decent duo of voice actors.
StoppedInTracks
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Hey guys didn't really post in this thread since like 1 month. Any new ME4 twitter tidbits around? Any ME4 news at all? 
And whoa JohnnyFootball is banned.
And whoa JohnnyFootball is banned.
Hey guys didn't really post in this thread since like 1 month. Any new ME4 twitter tidbits around? Any ME4 news at all?
And whoa JohnnyFootball is banned.
There likely won't be any news until N7 day. After that I wouldn't be shocked if they go radio silent until E3, which will probably be the full unveiling.
Another day, another month without news of a Mass Effect remaster.
Reading the thread the other day of "which companies never cut the price of their DLC", which was basically a "Bioware DLC thread" only reconfirmed just how BADLY Mass Effect Trilogy needs a proper, complete re-release with all chapters included.
Even Dragon Age: Inquisition is at least getting a GOTY with all DLC included, so maybe EA is warming up to the idea of complete packages again.
Reading the thread the other day of "which companies never cut the price of their DLC", which was basically a "Bioware DLC thread" only reconfirmed just how BADLY Mass Effect Trilogy needs a proper, complete re-release with all chapters included.
Even Dragon Age: Inquisition is at least getting a GOTY with all DLC included, so maybe EA is warming up to the idea of complete packages again.
The Artisan
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I wonder what it was.
Yes it is. All dlc. 1080p60 with seamless menu like in MCC and better AA, AF, shadows and texture resolution.
The only Andromeda reference this past week was Chris Wynn telling someone he isn't sure when story details will be unveiled. Less than nothing, but as a regular on BSN's twitter thread, I.. figured I'd mention it. Heh.
One of these months I'll actually get to update my Known Features thread. Maybe. ;_;
One of these months I'll actually get to update my Known Features thread. Maybe. ;_;
wolfhowwl
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Johnny flew too close to the sun in the latest GwG thread.
The Artisan
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Nostremitus
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It's been a while since I posted in here, but here's my obligatory comment.
Bioware, where's my PC controller support?
Bioware, where's my PC controller support?
Lol, it might have been worth it to ask the question years ago, but you think they're going to bother updating games from 2012-2010-2007 now?
Yeah, that's not going to happen. Best you can hope for is that the modders finish and polish the existing controller mods.
Mods have been working on it for years now. It's still not very good, though it's gotten better.
Lack of controller support is still one of the most baffling things I've seen them do with that game. I know a few people who would double-dip just to get controller support.
But there always is hope. Resident Evil Remake's re-release got new controls too and people didn't think that would ever happen.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
The controller mods work flawlessly now, actually. I just played through all of them with controller on PC. Not a single thing wrong with them, unless you count not being able to switch back and forth on the fly. But once installed, as long as you're cool using the controller for the whole game, it works exactly as it does on consoles. I don't know how it used to be, but I finished my playthrough at the top of this page.
I was having compatibility issues with mine, though I'm not privy to my game settings at the moment.
At the very least, I know enough people would pay for the convenience alone. What's "simple" for one person to do on a computer isn't so much for someone else. The controller setup wasn't working ideally for me, and it's difficult to even pinpoint the cause of that.
All that for a feature that, really, should have just been included from the get-go or patched in years ago.
The Artisan
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wait, what? you can't play ME on PC with a controller?
there's a mod for that
The Artisan
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so it's not official support? seriously?? that surprises me
Why would it be surprising? DAO and 2 didn't have controller support either iirc.
The Artisan
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i'm not a PC gamer so i don't know how these things work. I thought you could play any game on PC with an xbox controller (or a dualshock 4 with trickery)
You can map keys to a controller for basically any game, it's not the controller compatibility that's inherently the problem, but the UI wasn't designed for it.
The Artisan
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OK. so it's not that it's unofficial support (if the keymapping thing is an integrated windows feature) but that ME was just not meant to be played with a controller on PC?
Nostremitus
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Really? Which mods? I tried the Mass Effect 2 mod that reintroduced the 360 button prompts a few months ago but the analog stick control would hang and get stuck pushing in a random direction and some options screens had no way of backing out of them so I had to close the game.
I wasn't aware that a Mass Effect 3 mod had come out.
The most baffling part is that the devs actually had to set aside time to remove controller support while porting.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I don't know. Whichever ones were posted ITT. They worked perfectly for me and seemingly most of the web. Not sure if it was a different one then you're talking about though. I'm at work and can't pull up the files.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Ideally controller/keyboard differences involve an overhauled user interface, menu, and flow of button commands to better suit each peripheral. EG: having 0-9 numerical hotkeys on a keyboard does not translate to a control pad, where something like a weapon wheel is far more intuitive.
I think the Mass Effect games play great with keyboard + mouse, but yeah, the control pad features are totally gutted from all three.
The UI for at least Mass Effect was completely overhauled. For instance, the weapon and power wheels were totally removed and a new UI system was introduced that takes advantage of mice.
The Artisan
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wtf...why would they eve do that? what is the point?
well from what I heard about PC gaming, but playing with a mouse & keyboard has a learning curve behind it but once you master it, it is leagues better than playing with a controller/gamepad.
yeah I think I know what you're talking about, from looking at screenshots. everything that'd be on the power wheel were up at the top left corner of the screen yeah?
For Mass Effect 1, at the time controller support was very rare, so it made sense that they'd change things to better suit the control scheme they could guarantee all players had.
By the time Mass Effect 3 rolled around, who knows? Likely they wanted to reduce their testing matrix.
Mouse definitely does provide better precision aiming, but I wouldn't say KB+M is "leagues better".
It definitely comes down to personal preference.
Pretty much, yeah.
The Artisan
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ugh, that's lame considering Me3 was clearly was going to out to the widest audience and sell the best (which I'm pretty sure it did)
maybe it's just for shooting then, because of the aiming.
so the game's never interrupted by a power wheel? it's always right there on the screen for you?
The advantage of having more buttons (keys) means that pretty much everything can be hotkeyed.
The Artisan
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hotkeyed? you mean mapped/shortcutted?
Yes. Hotkeyed = bound to a single key, meaning you have access to your full arsenal of powers at all times without delay.
The Artisan
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that is pretty neat. considering a gamepad is limited to the amount of face buttons it has
Yes, KB+mouse controls does have a power "wheel"(more like a power menu if you ask me) on the PC versions, but it's barely used for me since you can have up to 8 powers without needing the menu. I usually put 4 Shepard powers there and 2 powers from each squadmates.
The Artisan
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I see. I always said, if there were to be a 8th gen port for the ME trilogy, a practical use for the Ps4s touchpad would be placing a finger on it to bring up the power wheel, then circling your finger on the pad to pick your power, then pushing it to select it.
Nostremitus
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The Artisan
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that is a neat option as well and can also be achieved on the Ps4 for those who also own a vita =]I prefer the Wii U control scheme where powers are mapped to the touch screen.
The Artisan
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bought one used. I use it mostly for playing rocket league via remote play.
sold mine
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
All they'd have to do to get the ME trilogy to sell a bajillion copies is add in a new ending. And don't tell anybody shit about it. Also, hats.
StoppedInTracks
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One more year talking about the unnecessary ME Trilogy HD Remake and PC control mods.
Ugh :/
Ugh :/
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